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Whitwitlaw, can you confirm the 1987 allocation?
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A lovely piece on WAS.
I knew him quite well, a lovely man. His nephew Peter Cheeseborough trained for a while, after Arthurs death. Arthur's daughter was (perhaps still is) connected with John Wade who trains. The bloodstock agent Gill Richardson was Arthur's secretary. A lovely man. |
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Tudenham made its debut in the Scarborough stakes at York on May 10 1972. Paul Cook was on board. A few different jockeys rode it later.
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Huperade was trained by George Owen that day, W.A. trained it earlier in its career, both the first two were owner ridden. Just found the day in old form book, Soul Music beat a 4/9 of Dickensons in the last.
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Sparrow - the weights for the 1987 Grand National came out on Tuesday 3rd February. There were 98 entries with 5 horses each allocated top weight of 12 stone. The Thinker, then a nine-year-old, was given 11 stone six pounds. In the event, it didn't run, partly because of the drying ground. If you want to see all the weights, I'll post it.
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talking of Chris Collins,anyone remember the men's deodorant Cedar Wood? fairly sure that was part of collins business,i think he may have lived abroad and used to come over to ride the good hunters he had with Stephenson.
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Thanks whitwhitlaw, I always thought it had been given less weight and came out of the National due to it's Gold Cup exertions.
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Cedar Wood - Yes - Green and Beige, or Grey, box - I seem to remember
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Think you're right onlooker,i remember the talc.
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you cant best cussons imo.....
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What were Chris Collins' colours exactly? I remembner them as pretty much all white - though I probably only saw them on a b/w TV. I think he owned (and rode) Titus Oates when it was with WA as a young hunter-chaser. It then went to GWR for a then record sum for a chaser (going from Cussons to Cussins?).
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Morning! White, Navy Blue collar and cuffs and a quartered cap.
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Hello blackbarn. Yes I was thinking dark cap, but my memory was vague. Not surprised at the dark cuffs, but bit more surprised by the dark collar.
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Mine too Ged. I had to look it up, and my recollection was all white. Re cuffs, not certain but I think that, even in the days when you were much freer than today in your colour choice, you still had to have MATCHING collar and cuffs.
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Ged - forget the bit about matching collar and cuffs. Total B ollx, only got to page 3 of the B and H Colours book and found a blue collar with no cuffs
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Anyone remember Albert Neaves,he use to train near our caravan site at Faversham,i think his colours were ,blue yellow sleeves and yellow box on shirt.always had runners at Folkestone
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From Dec 1998..
ALBERT NEAVES, the former Kent trainer whose best-known horse was the front-running chaser Certain Justice, has died at the age of 87, seven days before his 60th wedding anniversary. Neaves trained on a small scale on his 300-acre fruit and arable farm at Eastling for more 39 years, until retirement at the end of 1996. Apart from Certain Justice, the winner of 26 races who was bought for 600gns and has a chase named in his honour at Fontwell's March fixture, Neaves will be best remembered for Do Or Die, who won the George Duller Hurdle at Cheltenham, and sprinter Al l Promise, whom the trainer purchased for 90gns. Bob McCreery, the former leading amateur who rode Certain Justice for three seasons, said yesterday that Neaves was "a true and honest gentleman, with a good eye for a cheap horse". McCreery recalled that when Certain Justice was nearing the end of his career, Neaves was fined by the Folkestone stewards for allegedly schooling the horse in public. McCreery said: "The accusation was a utter nonsense, because Albert was as straight as they come. Certain Justice was always doing his best." After the inquiry, a furious McCreery told Admiral Ffrench Blake, Folkestone's senior steward, that he was not fit to sit on the panel, which resulted in the rider being reported to Jockey Club headquarters for "being rude" to an official. He was subsequently banned for one month. Neaves leaves a wife, Rosemary, and two children, Bob and Mary. The funeral will take place on Monday at Eastling Parish Church at 1.30pm. Family flowers only. Donations to the Injured Jockeys' Fund. |
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Reculver - Great memory of the colours. Nearly!. They were Blue, Brown Square and Gold sleeves collar and cap.
Remember Neaves' Copperless winning a Hunter Chase at Plumpton ridden I think by "Ratkins" around 1972. Iron man Joe Guest used to ride for him too. |
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Believe it or not blackbarn, i am colour blind,so i dont doubt that for a minute.
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I do believe it Reculver!! I am too, but only really red on green. Can't see red golf tees nor holly berries.
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yeah, red green brown...gold yellow..me |
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Re the Holly berries, was hedging one December several years ago and one of our holly trees was apparently laden. A lady hiker passing by produced the following Spoonerism - Haven't you got a lot of "herries on your bolly". I nearly dropped my billhook  |
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The first time i had a colour blind test,the examiner produced 2 cards with all coloured dots on them, she said in her irish accent..''what do you see?'', i never knew i was looking for numbers, so i squinted and said ''a church'',the next one i said ''A FISH'',She said, ''Are you kidding me,what numbers can you see.?''..THATS WHEN I FOUND OUT. |
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it was terry biddlecomes birthday recently , i always liked terry as a jockey . im sure someone here would have the odd story about him....
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workrider - there's a link here, posted by WHITWHITLAW (much) earlier on this thread:-
http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/whitwhitlaw/4454d811cc4651656e821212877fb396.png?v=157200 It's a scanned image of the article that Brough Scott wrote in the Times the day after Terry Biddlecombe's last ride (on Amarind in the Cathcart). It's an example, I think, of how well Brough could write, and conveys very well what Terry was like, and how he was thought of. If you get the image up, you can make it bigger, if necessary, by pressing CTRL+. |
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Ged. Not sure how I missed that on here. That is a fine piece of writing. My first real memory of Terry was backing Spartan General nearly every time he ran (including in the Champion Hurdle
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thanks ged , i must have missed that first time around , great read....
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Just for fun...these are the 5 Classics from 1957. Let me know if you want to see any other year.
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I see the 1-2 in the 1000gns were owned by "The Aga Khan" and "The Aly Khan" resp. I didn't realise they owned at the same time, or that the son was known as "The Aly" rather than "Prince Aly".
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wow , last day at epsom card ..just look at those jockeys claims ...d keith 3lbs ..g starkey 5lbs and b jago 7 lbs....amazing to think that they were claiming ....
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the milden hall stakes of £300 , and a SELLING STAKES OF £200 just before it , it must have been a valuable seller for its time , i see p edderys dad jimmy had a ride in that gns and s mcgrath also had a runner ...more of the same please whitwhitlaw , the memories are flooding back....
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how silly of me to miss t.p burns ..still going strong is t.p.....see him at the curragh races a lot ,
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These are all the classics from 1960
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Looking at the 1960 card, has G. Littlewood been mentioned on the thread before?
Was A.Carson related to Willie? Thank you for posting, Whitwitlaw. |
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Here are some of the jockeys born in March
T Kelsey 1st 1939 Garnet Bougoure 3rd 1923 Doug Costello 3rd 1979 K Barnfield 3rd 1940 David East 5th 1937 Ian Mongan 9th 1979 L Jones 12th 1985 Brian Forsey 14th 1953 M Bowlby 14th 1964 B Forsey 14th 1953 M Salaman 14th 1945 G Sexton 15th 1948 W Marston 16th 1971 Pat Eddery 18th 1952 Aly Brandford 18th 1946 Simon Sherwood 19th 1958 J Mackay 21st 1983 Tim Norman 21st 1944 Harry Haynes 23 1989 Oliver Sherwood 23 1955 L G Brown 25th 1933 D Grissell 25th 1949 S Jobar 29th 1949 T Quinn 30th 1944 A J Russell 27th 1918 D Tudhope 31st 1985 G Tumelty 31st 1985 |
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Without trawling through all 57 pages,could any of the regular contributors to this thread tell me if Johnny Seagrave is on it anywhere please ?
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FFF, regularly mentioned between 11/08/12 and 29/09/12, 14 posts in all that refer to JS.
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Many thanks ...
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You can enter the name in the Search Box on the Betfair Community line. All the posts come up together. |
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WhitWhitlaw, nice of you to go to all the bother of posting so lengthy a reply, Ace Man Whit......
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