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Amazing how you've found those so quickly ! On a similar subject and onto a jockey mentioned a couple of pages back, Gerry (GP) Kelly also has a connection with the Sheriff Hutton area, riding a few for MW Easterby at the same time Lucas was having his first stint there, and also breaking horses in from a small row of boxes next to a cottage that he probably rented from MW. They used him to break in the nutcases and he broke in a few for Michael Dickinson too. In the early 80's GP Kelly was the oldest jockey with a licence, and in the 90's he trained for a few years - had a horse called Distant King that won a couple of sprint handicaps.
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does anyone remember a permit holder from the 70s called Mr Arthur Eubank. Had one or two jumpers and could really set one up. I remember paying special attention to his runners with my dinner money.
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Gerry Kelly is still listed as Training in Sheriff Hutton. Can you use Google Earth...if so put in Post Code YO60 6SY in the fly to box. He is listed as training from 3 Church End Cottages...I think that's Mick's yard at the back there. |
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TM, long, long time since I've driven through that area but MW's yard is about a mile form the village where GP's boxes are. I don't know how to give a code for Google Earth but if you go down Carr Lane and place the Google man near Carrick House you can see the yard. Charlie Booth used to train approx a mile further on still.
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Tambourine - Is that "Racing in Yorkshire" website -
The currently one - called - www.goracing.co.uk/ ... - or, an historic site, that I cannot find? Thanks. |
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I see the yard and Carrick House on Carr Hill. To use GE...just enter the Post Code in the "fly to" box on the top left on the main page....it recognises all UK codes. Then just drag the man over to.... the square and hold till the streets turn blue...then release. |
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Yes - That IS Mick's yard - Three-quarters of a mile EastNorthEast of Kelly's
Entitled Carrick House on the map - but when you Blow-Up the Earth image to it's full size - then the overlay has the correct name of Sittenham Farm |
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This is the Webpage... http://www.yorkshire-racing.co.uk/ If you hit Email....it goes to a chap in Pateley Bridge called Stephen George-Powell who has been helpful in answering stuff about older Yorkshire Racing. |
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Happy Valley
Mr. Eubank is listed as a Permit Holder in Carlisle in the late 60's early 70's. The only thing I could find was this RP snippett. March 5, 1976 A mixed day at Haydock for Barry Brogan. He is sent on to the Disciplinary Committee when the stewards do not accept his explanation for not turning up for three rides at the previous meeting, but does better when Brilliant Boy (Bob Clay) takes the novice chase from Raise Your Hat (Gordon Richards/Jonjo O'Neill). Only two Haydock races are won by non-claiming riders. The other is the two-mile chase in which Phil Mangan partners Teddy Bear (Arthur Eubank) to victory over Emperor's Jade (Fred Rimell/Sam Morshead). I remember the name but his reputation is as usual more parochial than universal. |
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Ah yes, Tambo - I recognise that site now.
I had it on my previous computer - but the Hard Drive failed - and we were unable to lift my Favourites/Bookmarks from it - to put on my new computer. Many thanks. |
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i remember eubank hv,i seem to think he rode a bit as an amateur? although not sure at all,remember him having runners at catterick in my youth but can't recall any names,don't think it was him but who trained A Kinsman?
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don’t know who trained a kinsman but I remember laying it in the newbridge hotel Gloucester when it won at the festival, I had to borrow money of a pal to pay it out, nothing changes. |
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On this day in . . . 1968 Sir Ivor, trained by Vincent O'Brien and ridden by Lester Piggott, ends his racing career in a blaze of glory as he gets the better of Czar Alexander in the Washington DC International at Laurel Park in Maryland.
Piggott comes in for a slating from the American press, who reckon that he has ridden an abominable race by running the risk of getting boxed in. The Long Fellow is not impressed by the comments, and so when he was asked by US reporters after his success on Karabas the following year when he thought he would win, he replied: "About three weeks ago." 1983 A Kinsman, trained by John Brockbank and ridden by Geordie Dun, trounces Sir Marcu in the novice chase at Newcastle. The seven-yearold, who had won last season's Stayers' Hurdle at 50-1, again showed his liking for Prestbury Park with a ten-length defeat of the favourite Forgive 'n Forget in the SunAlliance Chase. |
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Just off to bed after watching crimewatch, the last thing they say is don’t have nightmares! Cheers mate I hope I don’t dream about laying kinsman again at 50 tenner’s. If it was £500 in 83 and my take home pay now for a month is just short of a grand I’m surprised I didn’t have a coronary. sweet dreams Ronnie |
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thanks tm,thought it was dun who rode him,yellow with black or brown hoops i think.
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what was the hot pot of hendersons he beat at cheltenham...thanks...
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A Kinsman was trained by a fellow called Brockbank i think,pretty sure its maiden win was at sedgefield 33/1 but i think it had previously won a point.
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I seem to recall the Mick Easterby-Terry Lucas combination being in hot water with the authorities over the improved form shown by a two year old at Carlisle around fifteen years ago. Back in the days when they didn't have a camera up every horse's backside and the only people who could see what was going on were those high in the stands with a good pair of 'bins', it was much easier for connections to land the odd touch. Unexposed two year olds with above average ability known only to connections have always been a popular medium for a touch and there has been no greater exponent of this than Mick Easterby. Every season, his better two year olds used to land a touch or two and Catterick on a sunny May afternoon in 1969 will stay long etched in my memory. The horse in question was a two year old filly called Goldwyn who had one previous run, well beaten in a big field Ripon maiden at 33-1. As soon as the prices were chalked up about fifteen minutes before the race Goldwyn was showing at 25-1, 33-1 in places. All of a sudden bookmakers floormen were runing round the ring backing Goldwyn, with John Joyce having a particular interest, and the price was down to single figures. It didn'r stop there with further money taking the horse right down to 6-4, I actually saw one layer chalk up evens. The horse had no jockey declared in the Life and a quick look at the jockeys board showed Jock Skilling as the rider. Even the jockey didn't know what was afoot until he was being legged up. Catterick on a Wednesday may not be the strongest of markets but a sizeable punt was landed and Goldwyn went on to win many top races that year, proving to be well above Catterick maiden class.
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the John Joyce floorman, it wasn’t the big guy from Liverpool who I think was called Sid, he was 18 stone 6foot4 bald head ex-boxer type, when he come running through the ring he always got on as you WOULD get out the way. What on earth are we doing at 11.30pm chatting on a Thursday night, well it’s as someone once said to me Ronnie gambling’s in your blood. Re our conversation last night do you remember a darlo bookmaker called Dougie Webster, he had a shop in Cockerton, where I’ve lived all my life. |
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Ronnie, it's 08.30 here. Yes, I remember Dougie Webster, also the shop at the top of Chandos street called Monkmans. I've seen many a worker from the Whessoe lose his pay in there on a Thursday night. I know Cockerton well, the tipping organisation Brimardon originally started out working from a cottage just alongside Cockerton Green. There was a betting shop in Cockerton just round the corner from West Auckland road and then another one opposite where Willow Road joins West Auckland Road. I can't remember the names, maybe you can. I'm Darlington born and bred although I haven't lived there since 1978.
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PaulBU
the one opposite willow road was Dougie Webster’s it’s now a barbers, the one in cockerton was Ralph Sugden’s taken over by Stanley then by bill hills, I think the one on Chandos street was Franky Leas. Can you remember Joyce’s floorman, he made George Forman look small. |
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Ronnie, I can't place the big guy. Maybe he came in later on by which time JJ had moved up to the number one pitch in Tatts.
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Paul
Hope you're having a great time in Queensland....love that Goldwyn story ..quite a touch. Here's a Tom O'Ryan piece from 1999 about the Legend that is MH Easterby. When God created Mick Easterby, he obviously threw away the mould. Within minutes of climbing into his huge Mercedes, Yorkshire's very own son has steered off the road into a grass field and carried on through a ploughed one. Talking the whole time. About anything and everything. "Yer know sum'it?" he says, "if you just trained 'osses all a'time, you'd go bloody mental. When yer've got an active brain like mine, yer must have a switch-off. I go round't farm. Farmin's easy. It's pure common sense, whereas in racin', there's so much unforeseen, horses goin' wrong. Most o't time, I love it. But if yer did nowt else bar train 'osses, you'd go off yer 'ead." Play questions and answers with Easterby and never the twain shall meet. What do you think about . . ? And off he goes again on a completely different tangent. By now, we're in the same car. But in a different field. "When I first came to Sheriff Hutton in 1955, I had a rented yard and about 12 'osses. See that hill there? I used to take me 'osses in there every morning at six o'clock and gallop 'em. Gospel truth, I did it for four years and't farmer who owned't field never even knew I was using it!" He heads off into yet another field. And switches to yet another subject. "Do you want to know how to make money? Inflation, that's how to make money. Yer'll never make money by working, because yer taxed on it. Well, yer can make it, but yer can't keep the f****** stuff, can yer? Yer've got to buy things and keep things to make money. That's the secret. Let inflation take care of it. "I bought land. Every chance I got. I love land. Yer know why? Because nobody can pinch land. They can walk on it, but they can't take it away. They can pinch your car, pinch your horse, pinch your cattle, pinch yer sheep. But they can't pinch land." He's also got plenty of it. Quite how much, he's not prepared to say, but from the next field, looking down from a spectacular hilltop, he owns everything the eye can see - even with a pair of binoculars. He buys farms like the rest of us buy cornflakes. "I can't help meself," admits the man in the frayed shirt and old patched sweater, "I'm a joke, really." Blunt and bold, wise and witty, crude and colourful, Easterby is very much his own man. It has been claimed that one of his speciality spits can hit the toe-cap of a well-polished boot at 20 feet. And he doesn't give a toss whether he's in the company of princes or paupers when he does it. Predictably, he had been reluctant to do this so-called interview. "Dunno," he replied when asked. "I'm a bit doggy on those sort o' things. What's it for?" "Racing Post," I tell him. "Are you getting paid to do it?" "Well, er, yes, I'll get paid." "Good job one of us is getting sum'it then, in'it !" Not that you'd know it by the way he goes on, but he was 68 last month. He promptly sang Happy Birthday to himself over the loudspeaker at Newcastle races. It was a typical, high-spirited Easterby stunt. Most of the others are unprintable. "Yer don't need to spend a lot of money in life to enjoy yerself. It's good company yer need," he says. "I love beer," he adds, smacking his lips. "Beer is . . . relaxing. It stops yer brain ticking. I go to t'pub every night. Two or three pints and I sleep like a log. Yer could take t'roof off me house and I wouldn't know yer'd taken it. And next morning, I wake up as fresh as a baby." You'd need to get up early to put one over on him. "What you need in this game is an eye to buy winners. It's simple to go to't sales and spend big money on an 'oss, a half-brother to this or a half-sister to that. Anyone can do that. But it's not how much yer can spend, it's how little yer can spend. I just love buying a cheap 'oss and making it a good 'oss." "What was your best-ever bargain," I ask, expecting him to opt for his 1,000 Guineas winner Mrs McArdy (bought in a job-lot of 10 for only 6,000gns), or his champion sprinter Lochnager, a mere 600gns purchase? "Good 'ealth," he replies. "If yer've got good 'ealth, yer've got everything; nowt else matters." Easterby has horses spread all over the place. His boxes range from age-old prefabs with corrugated roofs held down by breeze blocks to DIY barn conversions. The doors and fronts, all made in his own workshops, are bolted in such a way that they can be opened up completely. "Days of mucking out by hand are gone," he explains. "We do it all with t'machine once a fortnight." We're now at Dalby, his second yard. Neat as a pin it might be, but it lends itself to a bygone age reminiscent of All Creatures Great And Small. Easterby trains his eagle eye over 'Little and Large' - his good sprinters, Westcourt Magic and Blessingindisguise - and seems suitably satisfied. Does he ever weigh horses? "Nah," he says, "don't have to. I can tell what weight a horse has lost, whether he's too fat or too thin, just by looking at 'em. I'm not being big-headed. It's called being a stockman. It's the same with sheep or cattle going to t'market. I can sort 'em out in't blink of an eye." Back in the Merc, the conducted tour continues. "See that hill? Rises 150 foot in five and a half furlongs. Brilliant it is for bad-legged 'osses. I hold t'record yer know for winning races with broken-down 'osses. I'm a bloody artist at it. Can't tell yer what I do, else everyone would know as much as me." Into yet another field, and Easterby stops off at a gallop he's making. He goes into great detail about drainage and the pros and cons of various surfaces. He's tried them all - woodchip, sand, dirt, plus more subtle combinations of pig hair and mushroom compost. "I just love making gallops. Experimenting. It's like a drug to me. I get a kick out of it. It's the same as farms. I love converting things, changing things. If I hadn't been a trainer, I'd have been a builder." But not, it seems, an inventor. As we drive past one of his four horse-walkers, he says: "It vexes me that I wasn't the first to think of those things. I had me chance. When I worked for me Uncle Walter, he had one of those big wheels for grindin' corn, with a cart'oss walking round. I never thought of doing t'same sort of thing for a race'oss. Should'a done. I'd have made a fortune." The fact that Easterby has made a fortune in other areas is neither here nor there. Money has never changed him and never will, despite the sign which hangs in his office, showing a bundle of readies, and proclaiming, 'If I can't take it with me, I'm not going'. For all his banter, the streetwise trainer is as shrewd as they come, as sharp as a tack. "I'm not a great believer in luck," he says. "Everyone needs a bit, but luck lasts only so long. At end of t'day, it's down to yourself, down to using your 'ead. "Training's like a hobby to me, a way o' life. I love it. It seems harder now than it used to be, maybe 'cos I'm getting older. I'm not an easy man to work with, 'cos I'm not an easy delegator; I want to do everything meself. But I've got a wonderful assistant in Robin O'Ryan; I can just leave it to him if I want to." His lifetime in the game has taught him plenty, but, he admits, not everything. "Just when you think you've got it right, it goes wrong. That's the thing about racing, you can't conquer it, it's a game you can't master. You're like a lamb to t'slaughter." Back at the main yard, my tour almost over, my education almost complete, Easterby slams shut the door of his over-worked Mercedes and contemplates training on into the Millennium. It begs one final question. Does he ever see the day when he'll say enough is enough? He thinks long and hard. About how much he loves what he does. And for once, he drops his guard ever so slightly. "Yer know sum'it," admits racing's most colourful character, "I wouldn't mind dying in harness." |
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blackbarn - here`s a Copes 38/39 for £6 to complete your collection.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Racegoers-Encyclopaedia-Racing-Fixtures-Diary/dp/B002H9LGWS/ref=sr_1_34?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348788622&sr=1-34 |
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How did the golf go Happy Valley? Still waiting with great anticipation for the Carr/Piggott anecdote
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TambourineNan, nice piece on M.W. Easterby. A legend. I sat around the fire in the owner and trainers bar one snowy Catterick NH race day in the mid 80s and listened to Mick talking to Denys Smith for about half an hour. It was an education.
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Paul
Just 2 old farmers bangin' on about 'osses eh...but what a day to remember. I always wanted to live in Middleham,Leyburn or Malton just so I could sit in the pubs and take in the craic back then. Wouldn't be the same today I'm sure. |
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Ribero - thank you so much for reminding me about Teddy Bear. He was a pretty decent horse. And yes Arthur Ewbank would ride his own horses and was a most accomplished amateur.
TM - that is such a brilliant article by Tom O'Ryan on Mick Easterby. Many thanks. The golf went well. I'm just worried, upon reflection, that if I tell the story Lester may get the sh!ts. Let me have a day's reflection. It is a bluddy good one so it will be worth the wait. Sorry to procrastinate like this. |
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Now what about Dave "Donkey" Dutton. Another character from the Northern jump circuit in the 80s.
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there was a piece in the post about dutton a coupe of weeks ago,sure he now works for one of the easterby's i think.remember him riding for peter easterby and john blundell and also remember him dropping his hands on one which was televised on a saturday and getting plenty of stick,think it was haydock.btw not me re teddy bear hv.
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Re Arthur Eubank,
here's a piece written by John Budden in the Evening Mail from March 2006:- THREE, two and – hopefully – one. That would be the ideal sequence which will see Arthur Eubank and Nita, his wife, back in the winner’s circle at Hexham on Sunday. Bromley Abbey is the mare at the centre of attention and she is expected to make her third appearance of the past month in the two and a half mile handicap hurdle. The home bred eight-year-old may have taken rather longer than the Eubank family might have anticipated but, as Arthur said at Ayr last week: “The penny may finally have dropped. “She has been so laid back that it has taken all this time to get her to realise what racing is meant to be about. We were pleased with the way she went at Catterick and delighted with what she has done this time at Ayr.” Today’s racegoers might be perplexed about the name of Eubank, but those with longer memories (and perhaps those getting a bit long in the tooth!) will recollect the Eubank brothers Arthur and Jonsol riding a plethora of point-to-point winners back in the 1960s and 1970s. Both rode with conspicuous success for John Brockbank, the Westward permit-holder and former Carlisle steward. Arthur was much sought-after by northern trainers requiring an experienced horseman to partner their runners in amateur riders races under rules, and he booted home plenty of winners for the late John Dixon, whose son John junior continues in the same vein at the family farm in Thursby. Names like Kilmogany Five and Crofton Hall slip easily off the tongue while Teddy Bear II, his own horse, was also a household name in these parts. Since retiring from the saddle, Arthur Eubank has remained closely connected with the Cumbrian and Border jumping scene both as a breeder and permit-holder at his farm near Cockermouth, and as a valued steward throughout the region.acting at courses as far apart as Carlisle and Ayr. |
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...and, less happily, here's another little bit from the RP from May 2007...
CHABRIMAL MINSTER returned to his roots to take the evening's feature contest, the imaginatively framed staying handicap chase for horses aged ten and upwards. Bred in Cumbria by former trainer and amateur rider Arthur Eubank, who suffered a stroke earlier in the week and is recovering in Carlisle Hospital, the gelding fulfilled a long-term plan by getting the better of Forever Eyesofblue by two and a half lengths in the hands of Graham Lee to make it five career wins from just 19 starts. |
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...Bromley Abbey's dam was Little Bromley, who was the last winner that Arthur Eubank trained.
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A favourite jockey of mine from the 60s was Michael Hayes who rode for the Armstrong stable but was tragically killed in a car crash. I wonder if many remember this excellent jockey.
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paulbu,
The Mick Easterby/Terry lucas brings back happy memories. I think the Singapore trainer, the late Ivan Allan was involved. A horse called Cherry Corner? sticks in the mind. Not a great horse but he won me a tidy sum. |
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Just seen verbotene liebe's post; he recalls the connection with Ivan Allan too.
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Only vaguely remember Michael....I guess he was riding for about 9 years so you'd think there would be stories aplenty but nothing. Here he is on his Ascot winner which was his 1st. [ This image is no longer available. ] Here is the Pathe link to that race ....good for its time. http://www.britishpathe.com/video/royal-ascot-22 The only thing I found on his death was this clip from a Missouri paper....how mad is that! http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=LulTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9zgNAAAAIBAJ&pg=6049,1235467&dq=michael+hayes+jockey&hl=en |
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Since I loved Mill Reef I had to like Geoff Lewis...
[ This image is no longer available. ] [ This image is no longer available. ] From 2006 Byline: Geoff Lewis SCOBIE BREASLEY, Lester Piggott and Sir Peter O'Sullevan: Geoff Lewis's name will be added to quite a list of racing luminaries next weekend when he becomes the latest person invited by Epsom to be guest of honour at the Derby meeting. When you're talking about Epsom, it would be a struggle to identify a more appropriate individual to join such illustrious company than the ever-popular former jockey and trainer, now 70 and living with his wife Noelene in Marbella on Spain's Costa del Sol since his retirement six years ago. A huge part of Lewis's previous 50 years had been spent in Epsom, from his days as a 15-year-old apprentice with Ron Smyth after he left his job as a pageboy at the Waldorf, to riding the first winner of a 27-year career as a jockey at the track's spring meeting in Coronation year, through to 20 more seasons as a trainer based in the town until he called time in September 1999. It was 35 years ago in 1971 that Lewis, surely one of the most talented jockeys never to have been champion, made his own piece of Epsom history when he became the first - and only - rider to partner the winners of all three Group 1 events at the Derby meeting, headed by the legendary Mill Reef. Despite such credentials, and the obvious affection in which he is held across the racing scene, Lewis says he was taken aback to be invited as such a special guest. He says: "When Epsom phoned me and said they wanted me to be guest of honour, I said, 'Why? Couldn't you get anybody else?' "This is a lovely honour for me and it means a huge amount," he adds. "I love the Derby and Epsom will always be my favourite racecourse. Going back sparks such wonderful memories." Lewis never needs much prompting to chat about the horse responsible for the first leg of his brilliant treble in 1971. "Mill Reef was such a great, great horse," he says. "You could have put a 7lb claimer on him and they'd have won, he was so good. The only one I would compare to him was Sea-Bird, and I'm not saying I would have been frightened of him either." Lewis could talk about Mill Reef all day - in fact, he has probably done so more than once. "You dream about winning the Derby and he won it very, very easily - and he was only just coming to himself then," he adds. "It was the greatest thrill of all' it means so much. Just look at the calibre of some of the jockeys who've never done it." Lewis reckons the Coronation Cup, which he won for his employer Sir Noel Murless on the previous year's Oaks winner Lupe, was the hardest leg of the treble. "I was a bit lucky there," he says. "I had to take a chance and kick on and just hung on in a photo from Stintino, but the Oaks, which was on the Saturday then, was easier. Altesse Royale was well bred and she was the favourite, and she was an easy filly to ride." Lewis, one of racing's true originals, is seldom short of a story and a laugh. Like when he was congratulated after the Oaks by Murless. "The old man said, 'well done on riding the treble Geoff' - and I didn't know what he was talking about! I thought he must have had a nice lunch and a couple of glasses because I'd only had one ride that day! I didn't realise the significance of what I'd done." Lewis rode in an era renowned for great jockeyship, and he rates his long-term rival Piggott as preeminent, then or at any other time. "It is very hard to compare eras, and statistics say that Sir Gordon was the best," he says. "But I always thought Lester was the best and Scobie was just behind him - and right there behind him as well. And I think Kieren Fallon's getting up there with the best of them now." Although arthritis has scuppered his passion for golf, Lewis still gets his sporting fix playing bowls alongside neighbour Terry Ellis, Pat Eddery's brother-in-law and former agent, in a team calling itself Last of the Summer Wines. He follows racing via satellite TV from his apartment on the Med - and reckons Visindar is a worthy Derby favourite. "He looked very, very good to me at Saint-Cloud," he says. "He might not have beaten much but for an inexperienced horse he looked very good." Lewis also puts in a good word for Sir Percy and Septimus - but whoever rides the winner, it's doubtful they'll be any more overjoyed to be on the Downs than the man who did the same 35 years previously. There really is no place that he would rather be. From 2008 GEOFF LEWIS, the only rider to achieve the Epsom Group 1 treble of Derby, Oaks and Coronation Cup in the same year, could some day again be a regular feature of the town's racing fraternity. While stressing he is perfectly content with life in Spain - Lewis and his wife Noelene live a mile outside Marbella - the former jockey-turned-trainer admitted last week that he misses England, and his daughter and grandchildren. Lewis (below), who won the big Epsom treble on Mill Reef, Altesse Royale and Lupe in 1971 and followed his illustrious career in the saddle with a successful time as a trainer, said: "We've always had a thought to buy an apartment near Epsom, and split our time 50-50 between Spain and England. "We do miss England and the kids. We've been in conversation with two or three people, and one place we were considering fell through because it wasn't suitable for dogs - we've got a couple of Yorkshire terriers. It will happen one day. "We love the summers in England, and it does get very hot here for two or three months. You can get bored up to a point, though I'm not saying I'm too bored at the moment. "We have a lovely life here, but if we do find the right place in Surrey, the idea would be to do 50-50." Lewis "wouldn't go back to do any work", but said he would be amenable to invites from Epsombased trainers to potter around their yards, offering an opinion or two if requested. "When I was training, Arthur Pitt was around our place for a few years, and he really enjoyed himself. He used to come down every morning, had great insight, and was a great judge of horses' legs. "If I came back, I'd treat any involvement as a hobby. I get on well with everyone in Epsom, and am kept up to date with what's going on over the phone with friends. And, of course, we watch the racing on Sky." Lewis particularly enjoyed watching the racing from Epsom this month and reckons "it was as good a Derby as we've had for a long time". He added: "I thought it was the appalling ground that beat New Approach in the Irish 2,000 Guineas. He looked to be hating it, turning his head from the start. "But I think the second and third, Tartan Bearer and Casual Conquest, will catch up with him later in the season. The second is some horse, and he'll start catching up with New Approach around King George time. The second and third could end up proving better than the winner." |
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ged many thanks for the arthur ewbank news, albeit sad
ribero you are right, of course, i should have been thanks the T.Man for the Teddy Bear reminder, so thanks T.Man Donkey Dutton is a good golfer, btw, and loves nothing more to hustle you for a few quid - as I know to my chagrin!! |
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Glad the golf went well HV. Perhaps best not to tell the Carr anecdote on an internet forum if it might embarrass the Long Fellow. Lester was a legend. Taking his OBE off him was a disgrace. I don`t condone his tax evasion but the man paid dearly for his error and served his time. The man should be knighted for his services to racing. I suggest that everybody who has contributed to this wonderful thread, writes to HM Queen Elizabeth II and recommend that Lester should be knighted.
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