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By:
ribero1
When: 25 Sep 12 23:23
the redcar meeting was quite a good one at the time,think it might have been the william hill handicap? most of the top jockeys were there including lester,might have been a bank holiday.
By:
themightymac
When: 25 Sep 12 23:28
Zetland Gold Gup ?
By:
ribero1
When: 25 Sep 12 23:31
yes might have been that mm as it's still there today on whit monday isn't it.
By:
themightymac
When: 25 Sep 12 23:41
Was big in 70s ribero.
By:
WHITWHITLAW
When: 26 Sep 12 06:24
Today’s Birthdays

Brian Harding born 1972


David Kettle born 1948. Raised in Loxwood area of Billinshurst, Sussex. Rode his first winner on Jan 22 1972. Racecard below

http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/whitwhitlaw/072e9165716bc8d496baf9e14c5aea7a.png?v=83700

Manny Mercer killed 1959 Race below.

http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/whitwhitlaw/8e6873cf495f6e1f8ec15864faa1ee05.png?v=214800
By:
PAULBU
When: 26 Sep 12 08:16
The William Hill Handicap was a top race run at Redcar over one mile the first or second Saturday in August and was originally programmed to coincide with the old bank holiday weekend before it was moved to the end of August. The prize money was such that it attracted top stables from the south who would usually bring other horses with them and it made for a cracking days racing. It was always good to see the prize money stay up north and the year that Foggy Bell won it (1969) was one of the most enjoyable days racing I've ever had. Willie McCaskill got him home at 100-9 in a tight finish with John Dunlop's Closeness (Ron Hutchinson). Coolmack (Johnny Seagrave) and Right Gent (Brian Connorton) were other winners for us on the day before we moved on to the Kirk Levington Country Club for a night of soul/RnB. It doesn't get any better.
By:
ribero1
When: 26 Sep 12 08:21
crikey paulbu,i went to school with a guy who lived up there and he was always banging on about the kirk levington club.
By:
PAULBU
When: 26 Sep 12 08:33
Ribero, The 'Kirk', as it was known, used to have a gambling licence for Blackjack, Roulette etc in the days before the government forced the clubs to change the rules to give the house less of an edge. The gambling side was not for me but they used to play some cracking 'sounds'. The dance floor used to have two corners, the 'boro corner' and the 'darlo corner'. Good days.
By:
PAULBU
When: 26 Sep 12 09:14
TambourineMan, anything in your locker on Dougie Marks and his two stable jockeys David Yates and lightweight Walter Jesse. All were a rare sight in the north.
By:
PAULBU
When: 26 Sep 12 09:17
Sorry Billy Jesse, not Walter.
By:
ribero1
When: 26 Sep 12 09:29
fantastic stuff paulbu,yes he always referred to it as "the kirk",his old man was a solicitor in hartlepool,although he wasn't really interested in racing i think his dad was john joyce's solicitor as he introduced me to his son who was a nice lad but not interested in the family bookmaking business,think he went into law.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 26 Sep 12 10:03
paulbu

The Kirk as you say great nights, a question for you did you know these two Darlington bookmakers Maurice Binks and Ralph Sugden.

ribero

talking of John Joyce I was reminiscing with his old floorman at York who now works for the Whelan firm, could you tell me how old will he be as he’s been around for donkeys yet still looks as fit as a fiddle,

Can’t stop of to try and get some of our 4000 monitored customers back Crazy
By:
ribero1
When: 26 Sep 12 10:09
ronnie,it's peter shakespeare,he is from leeds,must be mid 80's,comes out the odd day for whelan's when they are busy.
By:
forgotmyusername
When: 26 Sep 12 10:54
Ribero, like you I also got Jimmy Lindley's autograph when I was a little kid at Lingfield (many moons ago)and I too remember thinking he was an absolute gent. The other jock who stood out for politeness all those years ago (early 70's) was Paul Cook.
By:
ribero1
When: 26 Sep 12 10:58
he certainly was,don't think i ever got cook's though.
By:
PAULBU
When: 26 Sep 12 12:04
Ronnie, Yes, I remember both Sugden and Binks. Darlington in the mid 60s must have had more betting shops per square mile than any other town as there was one on every street corner. Other independents were Teddy Reeves, Chismans, Nunns, Tony Knightson.
By:
skiptoomaloumacari
When: 26 Sep 12 13:58
i like to thank my good friend seamus o"neill a very happy 58th birthday today ....well remember coming to tarporley in the late seventies to ride for ray peacock.............and he"s still in the village clocking up the miles as a senior starter
By:
Happy Valley
When: 26 Sep 12 16:40
guys thank you very much for the great posts on jimmy lindley, my mate's father used to do the washing up with him at glynebourne when lindley was an apprentice at lewes (i think to old Tommy Mason to begin with)and needed to earn an extra bob or two. he liked him.
By:
themightymac
When: 26 Sep 12 17:59
Happy Valley, Everbody liked Jimmy, a class act on and off the racecourse.

Really enjoyed your earlier anecdotes mate, any more?
By:
blackbarn
When: 26 Sep 12 20:45
Re the recent Jimmy Lindley posts, here one I posted earlier on for those who missed it...

Spoke to Jimmy Lindley at Glorious Goodwood. Lovely man, he politely disputed that I ever saw him ride over hurdles 'cos I looked too young (a very nice man!). Looked very dapper, aged 77. Would have loved to have talked to him for longer (about Aggressor and Double Jump) but there was a queue for his attention! Nice!!
By:
TambourineMan.
When: 27 Sep 12 01:07
Wanted to post a piece on Eddie Larkin but his name hardly features at all on the internet.

Looking at Copes for 1962 he was leading jockey by far at Ayr,Bogside,Carlisle,Edinburgh Hamilton and Lanark...he was also doing well at Ponty.

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Thats him on the right next to Dennis Letherby.

I got this from Mr. George -Powell who looks after the Racing in Yorkshire Website.


LARKIN, Edward. Sandycroft, North Grove Crescent, Wetherby

born December 14, 1931 married Sept 8 1958 Dawn Mary, dau of the late Dr Patrick Curran. Two sons, John Edward, Geoffrey Arthur.

Recreations; Fishing (river and sea)

Best Horse Ridden; Running Blue

Present Riding Weight; 8st 3lb

Retainer; Freelance

Highlight of Career; 5 wins from 8 rides, including Singapore St Leger.

Number of winners ridden in Best Season; 73 in 1958

Big Races Won; Gimcrack Stakes, Cumberland Plate, Carlisle Bell, Lanark Silver Bell (twice), Lingfield Oaks Trial, Andy Capp Hcap (twice), Ayr Gold Cup, Royal Lodge S, Thirsk Classic Trial, Singapore St Leger.

Date and Place of Riding First winner; Stockton, 1949

Apprenticeship; With Capt G Armstrong at Middleham 1947-54.

Favourite Racecourses; Ayr, Redcar

Other Details; Has ridden 4 winners in a day on all the Scottish courses. Once rode 9 winners from 11 mounts.



He doesn't appear in the index to Eddie Hide's biography.



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I remember seeing the Singapore cutting where I think he won 4 Group type races in 1 day.
There are 2 E. Larkins in the Wetherby 'phonebook so if you're still around Eddie thanks for the memories
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By:
themightymac
When: 27 Sep 12 03:09
Has Terry Lucas been mentioned earlier? Remember him riding for Easterby. Think he was an Aussie.
By:
themightymac
When: 27 Sep 12 03:12
Have really enjoyed your contribution to this great thread TM. Brilliant stuff mate. Regards Copes Encyclopedia, what years did they run from? I have a couple I picked up from 50s and 60s. Very good, they are. Nothing like that nowadays.
By:
Happy Valley
When: 27 Sep 12 03:14
Terry Lucas was most definitely an Aussie

MightyMac - you bold front-running jumper you - I do have the most marvellous anecdote about Frank Carr and Lester Piggott told in Dec 1990 by the late and much lamented racing journalist Robin Parke over a racing lunch in Hong Kong at the Excelsior hotel with Lester present. It was the first time I'd ever met Lester. I have to play golf now but promise to bash it out on my return. It is somewhat lengthy but has the best punchline of all time.

And again it's all true!! (well as told at the lunch it's all true)
By:
WHITWHITLAW
When: 27 Sep 12 04:25
Today’s Birthdays

Philip Blacker – born 1949, educated in Dorset. Rode professionally for 13 years clocking up 340 winners. Famously became a sculptor when he retired from racing. The link below shows his work ‘Flander’s Mud’ depicting a French warhorse. It sold for £48,500 since you asked.
http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/whitwhitlaw/760c9ea4722df39c579c7371c4ba91d8.jpg?v=132020

The Jockey's Championship - 75 years ago today. http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/whitwhitlaw/7725d18fcc9ae7b23418e27954cc389f.png?v=51067

Racecard - 50 years ago today.
http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/whitwhitlaw/0274bceba7d728a836fa55e1e8488aae.png?v=180600
By:
PAULBU
When: 27 Sep 12 04:47
Eddie Larkin was a successful northern based jockey in his early years, so good in fact that he became first jockey to owner Lord Rosebery and trainer Jack Jarvis around 1960. Things didn't work out at Newamarket
By:
PAULBU
When: 27 Sep 12 04:48
Eddie Larkin was a successful northern based jockey in his early years, so good in fact that he became first jockey to owner Lord Rosebery and trainer Jack Jarvis around 1960. Things didn't work out at Newamarket
By:
PAULBU
When: 27 Sep 12 04:54
and he was quickly back up north riding as stable jockey to Tommy Shedden at Wetherby with whom he had a long assocation. Larkin was quite heavy for a jockey in those days and he missed out on quite a lot of rides on Shedden's handicap runners much to the benefit of lightweight Norman McIntosh.
By:
WHITWHITLAW
When: 27 Sep 12 08:29
Eddie Larkin rode his first winner in 1948 (Princess Madcap, Fri Aug 21), not 1949 as given in the Directory of Turf.

Headed A Racehorse In Flames, this article came from a racing paper Sept.1947

'Treading on a phosphorous smoke bomb when returning from exercise yesterday on Middleham High Moor, Thyme, a four-year-old mare belonging to Mrs G Armstrong, was enveloped in flames. Thyme suffered burns to the shoulder and her apprentice rider, E Larkin, received burns on both hands....'

Apparently the bomb had been left by troops in Army operations on the moor.
By:
lapraek
When: 27 Sep 12 08:41
your on to something here, the present bunch are a bit drab, how about eric eldin, edward hide and ernie johnstone
By:
lapraek
When: 27 Sep 12 08:43
these three jockies won all six races at Ayr, the jockies all had a first name beginning with an "E"
By:
lapraek
When: 27 Sep 12 08:47
what about A.J.Russel, he was older than mathousalier
By:
lapraek
When: 27 Sep 12 08:49
he rode 8 winners in a row, last won at bogside, through the card at Ayr and the first one at Lanark the following day
By:
WHITWHITLAW
When: 27 Sep 12 09:40
lapraek - I think you'll find that A.J.Russell rode the last winner at Lanark (July 18 1957) and next day won all 6 races at Bogside. His four mounts the next day all lost.
By:
TambourineMan.
When: 27 Sep 12 12:51
Re Eddie (Ted) Larkin....

Thanks for the in teresting posts.

Stephen at Yorks racing added....

"He also gets a couple of mentions in passing (as 'Ted' Larkin) in Willie Carson autobiography (Carson was an apprentice to Armstrong) "Ted was our big hero".
By:
PAULBU
When: 27 Sep 12 13:27
I must admit, I always knew him as Ted Larkin. My lasting memory of Ted as a jockey was at Ripon in the last race maiden of a September meeting in 1969/70. I was down by the rails in order to make a quick getaway from the track and Ted was riding a complete outsider called Firsetta for Ronnie Barnes (I think). The horse was still a maiden at 4 years plus but Ted had it in front inside the last and was screaming loudly at it to keep it going. The horse was so petrified, it won by 3 or 4 lengths at around 66-1. An excellent jockey on inexperienced horses.
By:
Happy Valley
When: 27 Sep 12 16:01
i love these trips down Memory Lane, thanks guys, even the ones or maybe especially the ones before my time
By:
blackbarn
When: 27 Sep 12 16:27
MightyMac - re your question on Cope's Racegoer's Encyclopaedia.  I agree, it would be great to have something similar today.  I liked the Tote one in the sixties/seventies too.

Re Copes - I think the issues are 1938/39, 1939/40, then a gap for obvious reasons and then they were published for the upcoming season, and named as such, starting with 1946 and ending with 1962.  I started buying them at jumble sales as a kid (as people used to throw them out at the end of the season) almost solely because of the racing colour's section. Still got them all except the first one. I also collect caricatures by "the Tout" who used to do a lot of the illustrations.
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 27 Sep 12 19:05
Terry Lucas came over to ride for Mick Easterby around 1979. The connection was through the late Ivan Allan, best known as Commanche Run's owner but a successful trainer in Singapore who Lucas rode for over there before coming here. Allan had one or two horses with Easterby at the time.If I remember rightly Allan survived an assasination attempt when conducting an evening stable tour through his Singapore yard, the bullet passing cleanly through him.That was late 80's or early 90's. Lucas returned again to ride for Easterby in the late 90's and though not having a licence now may still be there - he was leading up one at York around 3 years ago.
By:
TambourineMan.
When: 27 Sep 12 19:59
Re Terry Wombat Lucas

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Seems like he might be back in Oz.
Here he is leading up a horse there in 2012.....think he's sixtyish now.


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Former top Toowoomba jockey Terry Lucas spent a lot of time riding overseas but for some years he was the number one rider for the late Toowoomba trainer Jim Atkins. Terry rode a stack of black type winners - and two of the best horses he was associated with were Tails and Dalrello. In fact Tails was one of two QTC Derby winners that he rode during his career and the other was the Jim Atkins trained Amby's Love which was named after Jim Atkins brother Amby. He rode Dalrello when that talented galloper won the QTC Guineas, the Koomeela Stakes, a BTC Newmarket and Tattersall's President's Cup.
This the 2012 version of Terry Lucas photographed at Eagle Farm last Saturday strapping the Pat Duff Race 2 runner Duel Show.
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