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his name was john but for no reason the stable called him joe
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Des Lake. Eddie Larkin. Less Tailard. Tony Wragg. Harry (Tommy) Gunn. Jack Thompson. Declan Hogan. Jimmy Simpson. Morice Lolielou. Ted Lorey. Johonny Massard. Guy Lequeux. Raoul Brethes. Phllippe Blanc. Eric Fordice. Mickey Greening. Colin Williams, worked with the last two, if thats what is called work. spoke to Colin last week.
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hardestgame Sep 12 09:13
new young jockey JOHN BLANKS rode a horse owed my daily mirror called mirror boy to win big handicap at redcar ---------------- JOE Blanks .... and, of course, the race that Mirror Boy won at Redcar was - The Andy Capp Handicap. 'Andy Capp' - being a strip-cartoon character in the Daily Mirror. |
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Old Jockeys have a lot to answer for, some 58 years ago, my mother had half a crown to come back off a bet, and as her usual bet was two bob, she asked me to pick a horse, to have the tanner on, the horse was True Bang, it ran at Haydock, and was ridden by Doug Smith, it won at 8-1, giving me a return of 4 shillings and sixpence, an absolute fortune to a 6 year old in 1954, I have since then lost that fortune back over the years many times over.
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Hardestgame,i use to work with a girl who's sister was going out with Joe Blanks when he died,all the blokes at the bank i worked with use to follow him,terrible tragedy when he died,lovely family as well.
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seen before he went out for that race, sat by the door smilling like a chesire cat, so pleased to be in the weighing room, seen him come down, he went to go up the inside as the horse's came back across as the do, not sure who done him it was not very clear in them days, was talking to his girl friend about 7 or 8 years ago and she said it was JR, i dont know where she got that from.
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Declan Hogan.
There was also a Dermot Hogan who used to ride for John Oxx & Stephen Quirke and a Denis Hogan Training & riding today. |
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ah thats it Dermot
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A Wragg was presumably Arthur Wragg, brother of Harry, as was Sam. They were all jockeys.
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Here's a picture of Arthur Wragg getting married in 1936:-
http://www.topfoto.co.uk/imageflows/preview/t=topfoto&f=EU004416 |
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He was apprenticed to Stanley Wootton at Epsom in the 1920s, so Mister E might know something of him.
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Loads of photo's , press cuttings and names long gone on this blog/website ....
http://theapprenticejockey.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/jimmy-lindley-remarkable-comeback.html think some of you will be weeping with nostalgia ......... |
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This is a story about Stuart Webster from 2004...he was living in Skipton where I used to live.Sad story.
As one of racing's unsung heroes, Stuart Webster gave most of his life to the game. For more than 25 years the fearless Flat jockey earned a reputation of being able to handle unruly and difficult horses, and even tried his hand at jumping. But now Webster, 47 next month and a father of one, has discovered that racing has stolen his memory, and the man who drove home around 400 winners is now scraping a living pushing trolleys at a local supermarket and peeling spuds in a fish-and-chip shop. A brain scan has revealed he is suffering from dimunitive brain disease, which, his hospital consultant has told him, is owing to a build-up of bangs to the head. Now he must deal with the trauma of severe short-term memory loss with a life of routine and repetition if he is to perform even simple, everyday tasks. He says: "I rode a lot of naughty horses over the years and consequently had several falls, for which I am now paying the price. "There is no cure and I just have to live with it. But I'm learning how to cope and still enjoy life. I survive on a set routine in which everything has to be put into its place so that I know where to find it next time. "I always carry a notepad and pen around and write every task down so that I won't forget to do something. But I don't always remember to look at my notes. The other day I was supposed to take my daughter Christmas shopping and clean forgot. "It's scary at times. I go into a shop and if there's more than one room I can get lost - I don't remember how to get out and panic sets in. "It's very confusing, especially in unfamiliar surroundings. Airports and railway stations are particularly frightening places." He relies on girlfriend Dawn Benford to constantly remind him of what he should be doing next. "Dawn is a carer for me and I am quite ashamed. She already has enough on, looking after her 12-year-old son in a wheelchair - I feel I'm just an extra burden. "But I won't let it get me down. I went into racing to do a job and get somewhere in life and I enjoyed every minute, so I have no regrets." Webster lives in Skipton, North Yorkshire, where he works two days a week at the supermarket and is also part-time at his sister's fish-and-chip shop. He receives pounds 75 a month from his jockeys' pension - the scheme wasn't even running when he first started riding - and says the only other help he's had from racing came from the Injured Jockeys' Fund, which offered to finance his brain scan. He says: "When I'm pushing trolleys on a cold, wet, miserable day I sometimes think `What on earth am I doing here?' But then I help an old lady unload her shopping into the car and get a warm `thank you', which makes my day. "I get more thanks in one day at the supermarket than I ever did in 25 years in racing!" Ask Webster the names or breeding of the two dozen horses in training when he first started out as an apprentice back in the early 1970s and he can reel off most of the details without hesitation. He explains: "It's just my short-term memory that is affected. For example, six months after buying my own little house I couldn't remember where it was." After his ex-partner Julie Craze quit training two years ago, Webster rode work in Spain for a spell. "But I came back home when I found I couldn't even remember which stable to take a horse back to after riding trackwork. It's very embarrassing," he says. The memory loss started while Webster was still riding in this country. He reveals: "In the latter years I sometimes forgot my orders when I got down to the start. If an owner wasn't at the races and rang later to ask me how his horse had gone, my mind was a blank. "I think it really started after a bad fall I had when a horse broke its leg in 1988. "I always kept a record of every mount, and looking back at my notes I can see that two weeks after that fall I added another heading - How the horse ran - to remind me to put my thoughts down while they were still fresh. "I had quite a few bangs on the head while race-riding and was knocked out a few times. "Once at Southwell I was thrown to the ground at the start. I was unconscious and swallowed my tongue, but luckily one of the stalls handlers managed to release it in time." Webster was best known for his associations with prolific sprinter Glencroft and Blyton Lad, on whom he won six Listed races including Newmarket's Rous Stakes three times. His most magical moment? "Riding my very first winner, Hei'land Jamie for my boss, `Squeak' Fairhurst, as an apprentice on May 20, 1974 in a six-furlong race at Pontefract. I can still remember feeling excited cantering down to the start, confident I was going to win. "I had ridden Hei'land Jamie the time before when finishing second at York and really fancied my chances. It's as clear as day . . . I can recall owner Bill Paul buying me my first riding saddle for winning." Memories are made of this . . . but Stuart Webster has to live in the past in more ways than one to remember the good times. |
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PAULBU, Did you know Bill Murray when he was Sam Halls head man, Also was it true about Mick Murray found dead at the side of the cross in Middleham.
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Thanks guys on the jockey christian names, particularly sooty1 who knew them all.
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Not been many jump jockeys mentioned. Stan Mellor was my all time favourite. First jockey to ride 1,000 winners over jumps. If memory is correct the horse was Ouzo and the race was at Nottingham. Can`t remember 100%, but I think Ouzo was a Grey?
Other favourites were Bob Davies, Jeff King, Andy Turnell, Macer Gifford, Ron Barry, Barry Brogan and Richard Pitman, but to name a few. |
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Ged,
Arthur Wragg was the younger brother of Harry and Sam. All three brothers rode in some of the wartime Derbys. Arthur was apprenticed to Stanley Wootton, I think David Nicholson mentions in his book The Duke, that Arthur and David's father Frenchie were in digs together. Don't know much more about Arthur only that he died young, in 1953. I think it was TB. Three brothers riding in the same derby was a feat though, i think they did it four times. |
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Anybody on here ever meet,work with or knew Mornington Cannon,another great jockey name from a few years back
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mightymac - You are correct re: Stan Mellor.
- and that Nottingham meeting was shown on ITV on a Saturday afternoon, too. |
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mightymac - You are correct re: Stan Mellor.
- and that Nottingham meeting was shown on ITV on a Saturday afternoon, too. |
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Thanks onlooker, Was Ouzo a Grey ? Can you remember?
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mightymac, Ouzo was a grey ,it won the christmas spirit chase which was the 12.45 at Nott on sat 18th dec 1971 at odds of 4-6...mellor went on to ride his 1001st winner in the 1.45 on Clear Cut at9-2...
On the same afternoon at Ascot,Pendil won the 12.30,spanish steps won the 2.05... AND THE 2.40 was won by HAPPY MEDIUM AT 3-1,RIDDEN BY THE LOVELY LORD OAKSEY..RIP.. |
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Thanks reculver. I thought it was but wasn`t sure. Some great names in your post. Clear Cut, who traine dhim again and did he not win the Hennessy or Mackeson? Spanish Steps carried the Edward Courage colours and Pendil, greatest chaser not to have won the Gold Cup. A terrific jumper of a fence was Pendil. Nearly as good as me
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For some reason I think Happy Medium was also a Grey, but maybe not. Sad news about Lord Oaksey. Never forget his association with Proud Tarquin. RIP
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9 DAYS LATER ON BOXING DAY,SPANISH STEPS FINISHED SECOND BEHIND THE DIKLER IN THE KING GEORGE. TITUS OATS (Lord Oaksey) i believe, finished 3rd...and Pendil won again
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Clear Cut won the Mackeson in 1975 - trained by Maurice Camacho - ridden by David? Greaves.
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Maurice Camacho, of course. thanks.
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Why is it that in 1971 i was only 8 but can still remember horses who won at 2 average meeting in midweek,at newbury on a friday, horses like
charlie potheen, ROMAN Holiday, Jabeg ,at Catterick..Supermaster and The benign bishop and at and stratford..Scorched earth (won the first ever ladies race with muriel tuffnell up) and Moonlight escapade.. BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHO WON YESTERDAY... TOOOOO MUCH RACING...?? |
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That was asked by somebody - and verified by others - earlier on the thread.
Or on a similar thread. "Too much (moderate) racing" - could/will be a contributory factor. - However, when you are younger, and you become interested in something, it has a more impressionable effect on you - simply because you have not encountered it before - and in the case of racing, it all appeared exciting. Like ALL learning, You remember the INITIAL experience more than the mundane repetitions. |
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think the greaves in question is alex's dad,think you are right with david onlooker.clear cut was owned by j.w.(bill) hemingway,he owned a brewery in tadcaster which was presumably swallowed up by john smiths,a friend is married to his daughter.
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I`m the same, could tell you the placed horses in all Derbies and Grand Nationals in 70s but would struggle if you asked me who won 2 years ago.
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Interesting ribero1 - so he was named with reference to being drunk?
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SUMMER FLAT ONLY RACING..NO A.W NO N.H
MON..2 AFTERNOON MEETINGS ..2 EVENING. TUE..2 AFTERNOON MEETINGS.. WED..3 AFTERNOON MEETINGS..2 EVENING. THUR..3 AFTERNOON MEETINGS FRI...4 AFTERNOON MEETS....3 EVENING SAT...5 AFTERNOON MEETS....2 EVENING EVERY OTHER SAT WHEN NO SUNDAY MEETS SUN...3 MEETS EVERY OTHER SUNDAY.. WINTER..SAME AS FLAT BUT NO EVENINGS AND 1 A.W MEETING A DAY EVERY OTHER SUNDAY OFF. |
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possibly mightymac,i will ask next time i see them in our local,think you are more or less right with the colours and he won quite a few at wetherby i think,always used to back him whatever,bold jumping front runner from memory.
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J W Hemingway colours combination were somewhat as you say ...
BLUE, WHITE cross belts, RED sleeves and Cap. Think Clear Cut's name would probably be influenced by his sire - Articulate. |
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Two young jockeys who caught the eye in the late 70s were Neil Crowther and Mick Miller.
Crowther had been a claimer with Jeremy Hindley but moved north to become stable jockey with Steve Norton. Mick Miller was lucky enough to become number one to Geoff Huffer in his first season as a trainer and they had a cracking first season together. We saw plenty of Mick up north as Newmarket based Huffer liked to send his horses far and wide in search of winners. |
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PAULBU, Mick Miller "and" don't keep us in suspence, one swallow ect ect
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PAULBU, is it true that Geoff Huffer done time for a crime "he" said he did not commit,
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Reculver - your very elementary fishing attempt with Morny Cannon must not go unacknowledged.
Jolly well done . MightyMac - Onlooker has (unsurprisingly, and as usual) correctly answered your Hemingway colours "question". Your faith in me was not misplaced but I was hay'ing at the time. |
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Sooty, Miller had around seven good seasons with Huffer until he was badly injured.
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