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Andrew in Sweden
02 Jul 12 08:06
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Hi Guys, returned home from vacation in Majorca yesterday. Unfortunately, anyone going to Spain (and Balearic Islands) in future will not be able to access www.betfair.com unless they're a resident in which case you can use www.betfair.es.

Content of 2 emails below .....

Gracias por contactar con el departamento de atención al cliente de Betfair. Nos ponemos en contacto con usted para confirmar que hemos recibido su correo electrónico.


Puede estar seguro de que el personal de Betfair le responderá con la mayor celeridad posible. De cualquier modo, si su consulta tuviese carácter de urgencia, puede contactarnos mediante el teléfono 902 886045 de 10.00 a 18.30 (7 días a la semana).

Reciba un cordial saludo



Dear Andrew

Thank you for your e-mail.

As of June 8th, Betfair became a regulated Spanish operator and therefore only regulated betting and gaming products are allowed for Spanish residents. At this time, our exchange will not be one of them. A license application was submitted in Feb 2012 and we are awaiting information on a new license date. As a requirement for this regulatory change www.betfair.com is no longer available for customers in Spain. Customers located in Spain trying to access www.betfair.com  will be redirected to a new site www.betfair.es.

Existing customers will be automatically migrated to a duplicate account on www.betfair.es and will be able to keep their account log in credentials. They will however need to provide extra verification details to satisfy the regulators above and beyond our current KYC requirements.  They will be asked for these when accessing www.betfair.es for the first time and each time after that until the details have been provided.

International customers that travel to Spain will not be able to use either .com or .es after June 8th unless they have a Spanish National ID and can satisfy the regulators verification requirements.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further enquiries.

Kind regards,

Kevin Flynn

Betfair Helpdesk

Helpdesk Tel: 0844 871 0000
Ireland Tel: 1 - 800 944 000
Australia Tel: 1300 238 324
Canada Toll Free Tel: 1-866-381-7119
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Report Escobar. July 2, 2012 8:13 AM BST
there is an easy way around this problem
Report patrick starr July 2, 2012 8:37 AM BST
how come escobar(am there next mth)
Report Andrew in Sweden July 2, 2012 8:40 AM BST
Patrick, you can still have a cash bet at 'Mullingans' pub (although i can't comment on the legality).
Report patrick starr July 2, 2012 8:45 AM BST
ok andrew,thanks. Happy
Report Andrew in Sweden July 2, 2012 8:46 AM BST
Mulligans / Magaluf
Report fecdave July 2, 2012 8:47 AM BST
Use a proxy server to mask your IP location
Report Andrew in Sweden July 2, 2012 8:47 AM BST
fecdave .... tried that
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 9:54 AM BST
DEAR ANDREW IN SWEEDEN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW MUCH ALOT OF US IN ENGLAND STILL LOVE ABBA,EVEN THOUGH THEVE NOT  HAD A TOP TEN HIT HERE LATELY ALOT OF US STILL LOVE THEM ,AND DANCEING QUEEN STILL SOUNDS TODAY AS THE DAY IT WAS MADE
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 9:55 AM BST
THERES STILL PEOPLE SINGING FERNANDO IN THE BATH AND SHOWER  TODAY
Report chelsea girl July 2, 2012 10:01 AM BST
I sing about Torres every day, Do wah. Grin
Report Deltâ July 2, 2012 10:04 AM BST
u only sing when ya winning, sing when ya winning....
Report Andrew in Sweden July 2, 2012 10:07 AM BST
Ha Ha @ DwD, you're completely mad ..... but good for the forum Wink
Report genelec July 2, 2012 10:12 AM BST
Try using a vps in the uk?
Report oldeclub July 2, 2012 10:22 AM BST
Im just back,and although I couldnt log in through betfair site on my iphone I had no problem doing so through the ibet mate app
Report northanlite July 2, 2012 11:02 AM BST
so much for an integrated europe.
as you could become a spanish "resident" anytime you wish this makes no sense.
surely any european resident should be treated the same as a spanish resident.
Report throwthetellyoutawindow July 2, 2012 11:03 AM BST
No wonder the Spanish economy needs help they are clueless,they ought to concentrate getting their feckin taxes in and weeding out the corrupt rather than targetting punters on Betfair. imo
Report Stake & Chips July 2, 2012 11:04 AM BST
Sounds like a right kick in the balearics Sad
Report hippie July 2, 2012 11:08 AM BST
become a spanish 'resident' and you pay spanish taxes i.e. gambling tax

Andrew, did you try a vpn (not a proxy)?
Report saddo July 2, 2012 11:11 AM BST
throwthetellyoutawindow     02 Jul 12 11:03 
No wonder the Spanish economy needs help they are clueless,they ought to concentrate getting their feckin taxes in and weeding out the corrupt


Like the UK has done? Laugh
Report Andrew in Sweden July 2, 2012 11:21 AM BST
Hippie, no I didn't. Would this actually bypass the server ?

I did try to 'hide' my ISP, but it didn't work.
Report genelec July 2, 2012 11:24 AM BST
Piratebay is blocked by uk isp's but is still accessible through a uk Vps
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:38 AM BST
CAN YOU STILL GET DEAL OR NO DEAL ON T V
Report throwthetellyoutawindow July 2, 2012 11:41 AM BST
Hey Saddo you can't have felt the HMRC around u ...lucky boy! LaughLaugh
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:43 AM BST
I REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN THE ONLY WORRY YOU HAD WAS HOW MUCH WAS A JUG OF SANGRIA
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:45 AM BST
AND HOPE THEY DID NOT PUT TOO MUCH ICE  AND FRUIT IN SO YOU GOT YOUR FULL ALCOHOLL LIMIT
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:50 AM BST
SOME PEOPLE WERE TIGHT AND  GREEDY AND WAITED FOR HAPPY HOUR ,SO THEY COULD DRINK THE MOST FOR THE CHEAPEST PRICE ,MOSTLY RIFF RAFF
Report saddo July 2, 2012 11:51 AM BST
throwthetellyoutawindow     02 Jul 12 11:41 
Hey Saddo you can't have felt the HMRC around u ...lucky boy!


Yes I have, you and I are clearly not wealthy enough to get away with owt.
Report Escobar. July 2, 2012 11:52 AM BST
The easy way around the problem is to go to Spain and enjoy your Spanish holiday without feeling the need to gamble. If you are unable to do this then I think you should seek help
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:52 AM BST
THEY WERE THE TYPE OF RIFF RAFF THAT GOT DRUNK AT HAPPY HOUR,BROKE AN ARM OR A LEG AND THEN WOULD TRY TO SUE THE HOLIDAY FIRM WHEN THEY COME HOME
Report saddo July 2, 2012 11:53 AM BST
I have to agree with that, Escobar.
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:54 AM BST
MOST OF THEM GIVE THEM SELVES AWAY ,WHEN THEY RETURN TO ENGLAND AND WALK IN THE TRAVEL AGENTS SUPPING A CAN OF STELLA ,
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 11:58 AM BST
THE ONLY TIME I SUED THEM WAS WHEN THE SCOTS TRAVEL AGENT TOLD ME I WAS GOING TO TURKEY ,AND WHEN I GOT TO THE AIRPORT THE TICKETS SAID TORQUAY,
Report throwthetellyoutawindow July 2, 2012 12:00 PM BST
Escobar that's ok for holidays i agree but there are loads from this country (EU citizens are we not) who have homes over there and spend chunks of the year over there not wishing to gain Spanish residencia.
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 12:00 PM BST
ID NO NEED TO HAVE MY CHICKENPOX JAB IF ID OF KNOWN
Report hippie July 2, 2012 12:07 PM BST
Andrew, a vpn (virtual private network) provides a secure tunnel to circumvent the block you described.

It's what dissidents use to communicate to the outside world. Link to a server in the UK and to all intents and purposes that's where you are.
Report northanlite July 2, 2012 12:08 PM BST
can you access the site at all or just not log in?

i remember trying to log in to BF in Texas and getting some scary warning that the FBI would get me Plain
Report Escobar. July 2, 2012 12:08 PM BST
throwthetellyoutawindow - if you are staying in Spain for more than 3 months you are required to  have a Spanish residency. Anything else should be treated as a holiday and a break from a gambling lifestyle.
Report hippie July 2, 2012 12:09 PM BST
I thought it was 6 months
Report TRD.Racing July 2, 2012 12:37 PM BST
Wonder how the full timers who live in Spain are getting round it. You certainly wouldn't want to be paying the Spanish tax,as you can't offset any losses.
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 2:40 PM BST
ITS BETTER TO PAY THE TAXES YOU DONT WANT TO BE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE DAILY TORREADOR WITH A PICTURE OF YOU AND YOUR LAPTOP WITH YOUR SWIMMING COSTUME ON ,
Report Pilsudski July 2, 2012 2:43 PM BST
Hippie,you are correct --- 181 days I believe.
D wah D---turn the volume down,please.
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 2:46 PM BST
NO NO SIGNOR
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 2:48 PM BST
NOBODY TELLS ME TO TURN DOWN THE VOLUME ,AND I TELL NO ONE WHERE TO STICK THEIR MERACCERS
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 2:52 PM BST
YOU CANT TELL ME ABOUT SPAIN I WENT THERE TO BENEEDORM WHEN IT WAS A SMALL FISHING VILLAGE AND YOU COULD GET A PINT AND A LARGE OCTOPUS FOR 100 PESATAS
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 2:55 PM BST
IT WAS ME AND MY FRIENDS THAT SHOWED THE CAFE OWNERS HOW TO FRY AN EGG THE ENGLISH WAY IN A PAN
Report [x] These checkboxes suck July 2, 2012 2:58 PM BST

Jul 2, 2012 -- 9:54AM, Do wah Diddy wrote:


DEAR ANDREW IN SWEEDEN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW MUCH ALOT OF US IN ENGLAND STILL LOVE ABBA,EVEN THOUGH THEVE NOT

Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 2:59 PM BST
I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST VISITORS TO SPAIN AFTER MARCO POLO,I WENT WITH MARCO POLO AIRTOURS
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 3:02 PM BST
THERE WAS NO LEATHER FACTORIES AND RUG FACTORIES IN THEM DAYS TO VISIT ,WE JUST WENT TO THE HARBOUR TO SEE THE FISHES GUTTED
Report Do wah Diddy July 2, 2012 3:04 PM BST
ONE DAY A SPANISH  LADY ASKED ME TO DANCE WITH HER ,I SAID CAN I PLAY WIYTH YOUR CASTANNETES ,SHE SAID ANYMORE OF THAT FILTH AND ILL CALL A POLICEMAN
Report Stow_judge July 2, 2012 5:33 PM BST
You could access Betfair by scheduling your pc to start up each day, then use team viewer (or a similar remote access program) to access your pc from anywhere in the world. (either via another pc/laptop or even your mobile phone)
Report FELTFAIR July 2, 2012 7:26 PM BST
I assume you can access the Racing Post website.
Report Andrew in Sweden July 3, 2012 6:02 AM BST
Many thanks for the tips hippie and stow-judge, next time i'll know Grin

Escobar.
The easy way around the problem is to go to Spain and enjoy your Spanish holiday without feeling the need to gamble. If you are unable to do this then I think you should seek help.


Escobar, I did enjoy my holiday, but certainly didn't feel the need to gamble, although I did want a bet during Royal Ascot and also to past in the 'your competitions' (almost got relegated from Div 1 as I couldn't post).

Feltfair, yes those sites were OK. What I didn't think of was opening a purple account, that site may not be affected.
Report FELTFAIR July 3, 2012 9:27 AM BST
Thankyou.
Report peterhiggins July 3, 2012 10:02 AM BST
stow judge how do we get team viewer thing
Report saddo July 3, 2012 10:03 AM BST
Indeed, peterhiggins, I never knew such things existed.
Report genelec July 3, 2012 10:39 AM BST
http://www.teamviewer.com
Report peterhiggins July 3, 2012 11:05 AM BST
thanks genelec i googled it and its free for non commerical use so next question would you be able to connect directly to bf
Report genelec July 3, 2012 11:13 AM BST
Set up home pc. Use another device to log in to your home pc as if you were sat at your home pc (home pc needs to be on and internet connected).
Report genelec July 3, 2012 11:16 AM BST
Another way is to use a vps:

http://www.tagadab.com/uk/virtual-private-servers/VPS_250

No need to leave home pc on when away. Just log into VPS (which is kept running for you) and use it like you would your home pc. You can load and install whatever programs you like.
Report saddo July 3, 2012 11:18 AM BST
Shocked
Report sooty1 July 3, 2012 11:59 AM BST
Sad-DODO, you have not got a clue what genelec is on about have you, your a Bull****, just for the record Sad-$hit, how many threads have you invaded, your the forums no1 Parasite.LoveWinkWink
Report Stow_judge July 3, 2012 12:06 PM BST
Andrew in Sweden, you should have appointed a deputy. I'm sure I could have found some losers for you Sad
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