http://www.guardian.co.uk

Not all of the Australian media accompanying Black Caviar's transcontinental adventure have been impressed at the exclusive picture rights deal signed between the horse's owners and network TVN, which has led to some requests for filming and interviews being turned down. They then enjoyed another less than satisfactory experience when being invited for lunch by Ascot chief executive Charles Barnett on the Friday. "It was a great spread but we were all sat on the same table as these pommie guys, John McCririck and Matt Chapman," said one journalist. "I thought Australians were supposed to have a reputation for talking but these guys didn't shut up. My ears were ringing by the time I left."

It looks more and more King like you have hit it on the button. A lot of hot air.

surely italy didnt beat england

couldnt have happen to a greater lot of sore losers

educeee
the funniest part about all of this, is you all absolutely blatantly refuse to believe she could of possibly been injured because let's face facts, if she was injured and she still beat the best on offer.. well..

imagine what would happen if she wasn't injured - that's the part you all have trouble with, you're all going need to come to terms with it, when you come to terms with it then you can move on to better things

No, the actual funniest thing is if she was genuinely injured she wouldn't have won the race and that's why some are finding it hard to believe it's true but for the sake of argument, let's just say she was genuinely injured, at what stage did it happen? How do you know it didn't happen after the line as she was pulling up (or maybe when Nolen was taking her on their victory parade lol) and so it had no bearing on the result or performance?

I've read on here people say maybe it might have happened when Nolen eased down on her and then had to get her going again but he only got to extend his arms once when pushing her head again before the line came and that was out of sheer panic and unlikely to have caused an injury and they probably still would have won anyway even if he hadn't but maybe by a nose or short head instead of a head.

megsy
surely italy didnt beat england

couldnt have happen to a greater lot of sore losers

LOL mugsy, you remind me of the little boy who tells everyone that on his school's Sports Day that his Dad is a beast and supper fast and will win the Father's race by miles and then when he barely scraps home and falls over the line in a photo finish, asks the other kids what car their Dad's have because his has a Ferrari, so ner-ner-ner-ner-ner-ner!

So in other words you both lash out in a "yeah but....." kind of way when your way off the mark boasts have made you look like a right pair or d1ckheads.

Mr wikipedia (imamazed) visiting the australians ,i thought something smelt, its sunday girls, go have ya fcukin baths

this may come as a complete shock to you and it may be beyond all physical realms of possibility in your mind but she has won injured before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bt9gJTLNB0

it happened right at the start and if it wasn't for that horse on her inside, she would of fell

guess that put to bed your "oh she couldn't of been injured she wouldn't of won" theory

please come again

As you yourself said, she came out of the stalls awkwardly for that 4th win but there's a big difference between winning a Gr2 race against 3YO Aussie only horses where some will have stepped up in trip later on as they got older, as opposed to winning a Gr1 against all ages from specialist sprinters from all over the world. Isn't it something like the rest of the horses in her 4th race went on to win only 2 more races in their next 45-50 combined?

As I said above though, even if she was injured then nobody can say when it happened and it could have been in her final 1-2 strides, after the line or even during the victory parade when she was ridden back down the course so why are people so convinced it was even a factor?

Alot of upset Aussies on this thread imo.

haven't we finished with all this black caviar debate yet, i thought it was pretty conclusive...she ain't all that!

History will record she came half way round the world and won.

For an old mare with ropey hind parts who was ridden by a plank it was a great performance.

please, Ranger. No need...it's already confirmed...

Don`t think she`d stay two miles.

Will someone please lay me some 10s for the Supreme Novices?

ignorance is compounded when it is long winded and displayed regularly