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EastLower Gooner
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Report Dan Chipowski June 21, 2012 3:54 PM BST
Will be fine.
Report geoff m June 21, 2012 3:54 PM BST
betty swollox times for 1.01 backers certainly thumped him twice
Report Knight Commander June 21, 2012 3:54 PM BST
No market?
Report saddo June 21, 2012 3:54 PM BST
Nothing to sea hear.
Report pa lapsy June 21, 2012 3:55 PM BST
He,ll be fine alright,still cost OP the race as he was going to go apast him.
Report stridingedge June 21, 2012 3:55 PM BST
if that was a sht hd


they would never take a race off this jock at this meeting
Report Dr Gonzo June 21, 2012 3:56 PM BST
1.01 result stands
Report Haslam June 21, 2012 3:56 PM BST
clever Frankie
Report Knight Commander June 21, 2012 3:56 PM BST
Betfair have settled it already.
Report gbtp June 21, 2012 3:57 PM BST
If that was Fallon, not Frankie, I really think he would lose it.
Report marc1013 June 21, 2012 3:58 PM BST
Another ban coming but will keep the race
Report tambhoy5 June 21, 2012 3:59 PM BST
there is a market 1.02 to keep it
Report breadnbutter June 21, 2012 3:59 PM BST
cost it the race .....clear cut Laugh
Report asparagus June 21, 2012 3:59 PM BST
It's exactly the sort of situation where the rules are wrong. Dettori has blatantly not cared that he's causing interference and undoubtedly stopped the momentum of opinion poll. You could definitely argue that he cost opinion poll at least half a length. However, there is no chance of it being thrown out.
Report onlooker June 21, 2012 3:59 PM BST
Knight Commander     21 Jun 12 15:54 
No market?

Knight Commander     21 Jun 12 15:56 
Betfair have settled it already

------------------------

NO they have NOT

SEPARATE MARKET for Stewards

Horse Racing > GB > Stewards Enquiry > 'Keep the race.
Report asparagus June 21, 2012 4:00 PM BST
It's the 2nd that ought to get the benefit of any doubt in such circumstances. Not the jockey who has deliberately caused the interference.
Report Poppydog. June 21, 2012 4:01 PM BST
Pretty certain would be reversed in US
Report onlooker June 21, 2012 4:01 PM BST
Agree asparagus.

Opinion Pool looked for all the world he was going to continue his 'winning run'

Dettori knocked him straight out of his stride.
Report EastLower Gooner June 21, 2012 4:02 PM BST
oh la la.....Liz translating tasty.
Report stridingedge June 21, 2012 4:02 PM BST
more chance of ryan moore winning

'after dinner speaker of the year' than any action there Laugh
Report onlooker June 21, 2012 4:02 PM BST
^ and therefore, Opinion Poll LOST his momentum
Report EastLower Gooner June 21, 2012 4:02 PM BST
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL quickest interviews for the stewards. Can't be arsed.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 21, 2012 4:03 PM BST
bottling stewards
Report Outpost June 21, 2012 4:03 PM BST
sounds as if frankie got away with it as barzalona didn't question frankie
Report Outpost June 21, 2012 4:03 PM BST
bloody hell stewards decided before I could type a short post
Report porte maillot June 21, 2012 4:03 PM BST
Frankie against a boy who can't speak English...haha
Report ichamaeleo June 21, 2012 4:04 PM BST
not a very spirited defense for opinion poll in the stewards room there was there?
Report carrot1960 June 21, 2012 4:04 PM BST
barzalona 's job safe after that performance
Report Poppydog. June 21, 2012 4:04 PM BST
Stewards was:

Frankie giving it 110 words per minute for quite a while v Gallic shrug
Report stridingedge June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
Laugh
Report ichamaeleo June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
very true. feel sorry for o poll's backers that not given a chance there
Report ichamaeleo June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
very true. feel sorry for o poll's backers that not given a chance there
Report Tucho June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
worst stewards ever

they really shouldn't show these things on tv, they give away what a stitch up they things are Laugh
Report gbtp June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
Sonko spot on, old twits couldn't even be bothered to discuss it obviously. Terrible to put young Barzalona in that situation though.
Report ArmchairIdiot June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
Boys in blue kept it in-house. Love
Report asparagus June 21, 2012 4:05 PM BST
Onlooker, yes that's the problem. How do you judge momentum. Until the bumps Opinion Poll looks the winner. It's possible and in fact maybe likely that Colour Vision picked up again and would have won but it's certainly far from certain. The rules encouraged dettori to bump the opponent. If there's any reasonable doubt the 2nd should get the race imo.
Report Eeeyore June 21, 2012 4:06 PM BST
I thought that looked a bit unfair and the placings should have been reversed imo
Report ArmchairIdiot June 21, 2012 4:06 PM BST
Spot on Asparagus. That's exactly my stance.
Report GEOFFDECHEF June 21, 2012 4:06 PM BST
I did not have any money on the race so not talking through my pocket, i WOULD BE GUTTED if i had backed the 2nd because Frankie stopped its momentum..It cost it the race
Report yorkie1 June 21, 2012 4:07 PM BST
Barza backers never had a fookin chance in stewards - the toffs behind the desk looked totally disinterested in the translaters offerings.....
Report pa lapsy June 21, 2012 4:08 PM BST
He has some neck.
Report ArmchairIdiot June 21, 2012 4:09 PM BST
Rishi completely stumping Frankie there. Huge facepalm moment.
Report spyker June 21, 2012 4:09 PM BST
If the 2nd wasn't god and had a jockey that wasn't employed by the 1st there was a small chance he would lose it but LF and Mo at Royal Ascot? I don't think it will be appealed somehow.
Report Eeeyore June 21, 2012 4:10 PM BST
Barza backers never had a fookin chance in stewards - the toffs behind the desk looked totally disinterested in the translaters offerings.....


he didn't say anything though all the translator did was explain what frankie said
Report Ei Ei June 21, 2012 4:11 PM BST
The question should be what % was Opinion Poll to win without the bump. It went 1.11 inrunning so that tells the story. I think without the bumps and hindsight 70% chance so he should of got the race.
Report windmill June 21, 2012 4:13 PM BST
did that translator have a gun in her pocket pointing at barcelona???
Report sean rua June 21, 2012 4:13 PM BST
The real enquiry should be into why the favourite was cat altogether, imo.

Actual Stewards' was fairly pointless, imo. For all concerned, the result had to stand.
Pretty obvious, really. Rules may be rules, but they don't always apply at Royal Ascot.

My three bets in the race came 1st, 2nd, and nowhere (fav). Sad
Report ArmchairIdiot June 21, 2012 4:15 PM BST
If the ground was quicker they wouldnt have seen which way Frankie went. CV is special stayer. Hates ground with ease in it, and done well to win.
Report EDDIE-D June 21, 2012 4:21 PM BST
Forget the parties involved - the winner should have been placed second. The head on shows bumping took place twice. The side view shows that Opinion Poll had just taken the lead when bumping took place. Are we now debating how many bumps equal a length? The decision was quite diabolical. I cannot help but compare it with Bizzy Izzit being disqualified at Sandown when it was hardly visible that any interference took place.
P.S. I had no bet in the race so do not speak out of my pocket.
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 4:22 PM BST
GEOFFDECHEF - I did not have any money on the race so not talking through my pocket, i WOULD BE GUTTED if i had backed the 2nd because Frankie stopped its momentum..It cost it the race

I did back the Opinion Poll... YES I'm talking through my pocket, and YES i'm gutted..

That was a disgraceful decision.
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 4:28 PM BST
ArmchairIdiot - If the ground was quicker they wouldnt have seen which way Frankie went. CV is special stayer. Hates ground with ease in it, and done well to win.

Some of us actually took into account the rain that had fallen and put money on the horse more suited to the conditions... funny that.

Done well to win? You mean Frankie did well to knock the wind out of the horse that should have won.
Report ArmchairIdiot June 21, 2012 4:34 PM BST
Stop your massive seethe, you upside down fcking head cripple. Ive said nothing out of turn. Now get over it.
Report millhouse June 21, 2012 4:41 PM BST
Anyone would think that Horse Racing UK had a vested financial interest in the profitability of the bookmaking industry, and that disqualifying the winner would have meant that the bookmakers have to pay out twice, imo...
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 4:47 PM BST
Oh shut up you toffie nose twit. I'm entitled to a massive dummy spit after that joke of a stewards decision.

Punters obvously run a long last in the list of priorities over there.

My fault actually believing your racing had any integrity.
Report elise June 21, 2012 4:48 PM BST
not a chance in hell of that being thrown out
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 4:52 PM BST
yeah, not a chance in hell in yor bizarro universe
Report denathorn June 21, 2012 5:06 PM BST
Best horse won, end of, thats why Frankie chose it. Only "Special" people didn't follow the massive tip Frankie laid out for them.
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 5:15 PM BST
Best horse won? How much you had to drink?
Report breadnbutter June 21, 2012 5:25 PM BST
frankie fan boys living in the past Cry

detori is a first class mug and lucky he got away with that and didnt cost the stable the race ,if it was the other way around detori would have bored into him and handed the race to the 3rd .
Report denathorn June 21, 2012 5:30 PM BST
Laffin at the pocket talkers.
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 5:40 PM BST
No wonder Frankie and Godolphin have never won (despite many attempts) a properly run race like the Melbourne Cup.
Report elise June 21, 2012 5:45 PM BST
lost, get over it
Report denathorn June 21, 2012 5:52 PM BST
Let them seethe some more XD
Report AdvantageAussie June 21, 2012 6:10 PM BST
Lesson learnt... never bet on horse with second string jockey on it in Europe...

OK rant over... and it's time for bed anyway...

Good Night All...
Report DHB June 22, 2012 12:24 AM BST
Waiting for the results of the enquiry I was reminded of the controversial finish to the Rose Ravine/Crimson Embers Stayers Hurdle where both were owned by the same person. The placing weren't altered then as there was no objection.
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