CORALS should have their licence revoked

Laddies 5/1 between 8.15 and 8.30 Kissed.



oh no wait the shops dont open untill 9 at the earliest

Rancid operation will restrict then mark anybodys account who rings up for it between those times

Kenny did the horse win and what was the sp?

It's high time, that somebody came on a programme, (for example), 'The Morning Line' and expose them, for what they are!

It's f*cking scandalous!


The Morning Line, and in particular Stevenson, are absolutely 100% complicit. Their agenda is ONLY to assist the bookmaking industry in commercial misrepresenation of the very worst kind...

batman50
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Kenny did the horse win and what was the sp?


I got a couple of facts wrong batman50

The horse was Blue Zealot in the 5-25 Bath

The requested stake was £50 at 9/1

The horse ran 2nd sp 7/1

There were 2 nr, not sure if before or after bet was attempted to be placed.

Last wednesday phoned korals to place £100 on holland to beat germany draw no bet market at 11/10.Bet referred to trader,minute or two later a rather embarrassed telephone operative declared you can only have £30 at evens.Hence I declined there pitiful offer.Phoned Sadblokes for same bet,sent to bac came back with an offer to accept £90.Again I did not place bet as surely its just really poor customer service not to accept the full £100 bet.It does make you wonder if the people at the head of these companies know what these micky mouse traders are doing.I did finally get the bet on elsewhere,these pathetic trading decisions therefore lost there companies £100 and maybe this customer will look to place his bets elsewhere in future.

Masterpappa, I'm told that half the problem is that if these 'traders' lay someone warm a bet of any sort that goes on to win, there are consequences.

One of the aspects of the whole charade that still baffles me, is that they would genuinely prefer to p!ss off someone they don't want than get a horse/team they clearly want to lay into the book.

They want to get filled up at the price, but the money has to come from proven losers...

tried having £200 on a 15/8 stab in 3 pm hexham yesterday amazed the woman rung it up then i only got offered £20 at price rest at SP joke firm

[i]Masterpappa, I'm told that half the problem is that if these 'traders' lay someone warm a bet of any sort that goes on to win, there are consequences.[/i]

yep much easier to mumble "tradeing decesion"

i korals,there so polite to me, everytime they knock me back, i say, 'RIGHT, THATS IT, close my account',lost count of how many times i have said that, they say ok Sooty, calm down lad, or i will jerk Corbetts hand and rip the balls off you.

MasterPapa
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Last wednesday phoned korals to place £100 on holland to beat germany draw no bet market at 11/10.Bet referred to trader,minute or two later a rather embarrassed telephone operative declared you can only have £30 at evens

Good grief, if they win't lay £100 in a big tornament like this there's no hope.

dont worry, next week well have the usual. korals have laid a monster bet of 3 million on frankel, ladbrokes have laid see you think lose 500,000, ,  biggest bet of the meeting someones had 1 million treble on frankel, fame and glory and black caviar to win 4 million .

I'll bet nobody has ever been restricted, as to how much they can put in the 'cancerous', FOBT machines!

what does FOBT stand for, norfolk?

Fixed Odds Betting Terminals!

Fooking Odd Bods Terminal

How anybody can stuff harded earned into a machine designed to take money off you is way beyond my pea brain.

Problem is no one ever gets a bollocking for knocking a bet back, but will get a bollocking if they lay a bet they shouldn't have laid. So to stay on the safe side they don't lay the bet.

FOBT did stand for Fiddle on Betting Tax until the new tax system kicks in and they will get taxed at sourced, what a shame!

Its a shame that high street Betting firms don't focus on a better service, better prices, and better public relations including having staff that actually give a fig and know what they are doing instead of finding new ways to screw all its customers, pathetic .

unbelievably bad these days,asked for a 300/75 was told i could have 100/25,felt sorry for the apologetic operator tbh,as i do the shop staff whom have to bare the brunt of these decisions whilst joe no balls dunks another digestive.

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Problem is no one ever gets a bollocking for knocking a bet back, but will get a bollocking if they lay a bet they shouldn't have laid. So to stay on the safe side they don't lay the bet.


Then dunk another digestive


100% correct.

asked for 500/200 this morning on a greyhound running at monmore (others going 11/8)

after waiting a few mins told i could have £25 at 6/4.

why advertise a price if you will not lay it
i used to work for corals so i know its not the shop staff its the traders at stratford.

I used to work for corals and now ladbrokes (got uni to pay for :)) whats shocking is were allowed to take any bet at any price up to certain limits. But if your a known loser were allowed to take whatever we want. It's shocking, and as you said theres no limit or restriction on how much you can punt into a terminal.

leave korals alone just been in shop this morning, posters and advertisement galore,   BET £ 10  ON ROYAL ASCOT ON SATURDAY, HAVE A £ 2 FREE TOKEN ON ANY MACHINE., CANT WAIT

Why would anyone want a free go on a machine betting system that creates a cycle of adrenalin rushes that can lead to gambling addition and the pursuit of customers of customers into this type of gambling while avoiding turf laying is a disgrace...

Any body that walks into a bookmakers is a sitting duck for improper business practices
and considering exchanges have been around for many years there is really no excuse for
trusting your money with "historically proven sharks"...

and considering exchanges have been around for many years

Yeah, coz you'd never catch the exchanges advertising 'Super Slots', would you?

Why would anyone want a free go on a machine betting system that creates a cycle of adrenalin rushes that can lead to gambling addition and the pursuit of customers of customers into this type of gambling while avoiding turf laying is a disgrace...

me i go in have a tenner on something put a quid on red a quid on black and take the knuts for 2 quid do it twice buy a bottle of something and toast corals. . . . . not much but i love doing it.

Lol like ur style tiger

Done it today ive had 3 tenners on Spain done the red black thing, copped 6 quid now drinking 4 cans of coors the thwats have paid for.

Excellent work Tiger :)

Are you restricted to one per shop?

Yep but my 2 labourers are not

What staggers me is why people still bet in betting shops when exchanges exist. Are they moronic ?

Yes bilbo because you can get loads  on here in the morning cant you.

Also dirty ew stuff is better on here aint it . . . oh yeah and b o g.

yep your right

bilbo you have a lot to learn..

There is no liquidity on the horses in the morning especially on the place market....

As I have stated on here many times the only way to win  (in my humble opinion) is with an inflated  price on an each-way single..

In a 16 runner handicap the place price rules as it is obvious that the horse is at least (backing an outsider) FOUR times more likely to be in the frame than win....

The very fact that the place market is worse than the bookmakers e/w market points the finger at just who is arbing this exchange and watch this post get pulled

I have a much bigger problem with e/w terms than bookies misrepresenting their prices.

It's absurd that the value of a bet that has already been struck can be so badly affected when a horse is pulled out of an 8-runner field.

We should switch to an American style win, place and show system, only with quoted prices, and deductions proportional to prices at the time the bet is taken. No reason that that can't be done these days. I'd even settle for a tote system.

Never could get head round the fact you are penalised twice for a non runner in say an 8 horse race.
Example you back two horses ew then they take out a 4/1 shot, one horse comes third, tough luck you do your money, other horse comes second sorry we are going to deduct 20%.
In my mind pay first three & deduct 20%

Managed to lose £7000 with bet 365 in 5 weeks, would lay any horse to take out £3000, now for no reason other than "a trading decision" im restricted to win £30!!!
What do these idiots want????

max for a pricewise horse is now a TENNER ! Sent someone it to back NAVAHO CHIEF for me on saturday 7/1 no price alert, the guy had never been in the shop before maxed him to £10 ****ing jokers !!!!!!!!

corals closed my account on friday night after i had 4 bets with em ! The horses i backed weren't running untill saturday ! fOR STAKES less than £50. They price up races but don't wanna take bets !! Wot the fooks that all about !!

corals closed my account on friday night after i had 4 bets with em ! The horses i backed weren't running untill saturday ! fOR STAKES less than £50. They price up races but don't wanna take bets !! Wot the fooks that all about !!

Because thy are all rancid mini casinos thats why

join the club, crisp.its madness, just been on 365 site now, just to see how much i could get on today.i was offered £6 on excalibration to win £ 30 max bet. are they mad this horse is around 14 on here, id sack the bloody traders if i was the owner, id let anyone have whatever they wanted on , its a no brainer isnt,  the world gone mad imo

id let anyone have whatever they wanted on , its a no brainer isnt,  the world gone mad imo

you would last a week max, i agree its madness this restriction bolloxs but so would that be.

gl today

fen , i mean if i was the bookie, and going 5/1 excalib, then i would lay that horse for any amount  to any punter and back it on here, .  g/luck yourself,

Clowns, this week they are laying any horse to lose ten grand at Ascot, yet maximum £25 at Crayford, a cashier told me they used to have some decent punters, £300 or £400 bets, area manager told the girl to only offer them £50 max, and if they did not like it, go elsewhere!!!

Deptford • June 19, 2012 7:09 AM BST
Clowns, this week they are laying any horse to lose ten grand at Ascot, yet maximum £25 at Crayford, a cashier told me they used to have some decent punters, £300 or £400 bets, area manager told the girl to only offer them £50 max, and if they did not like it, go elsewhere!!!

this week they are laying any horse to lose ten grand at Ascot

Just walked past one of their shops with that ludicrous poster in the window.

An absolute disgrace.

have sent an email to racing post asking for discussion on bookies closing accounts and restricting bets

You could not make it up, Simon Clare should wear size 14 rubber shoes, have a revolving bow tie that squirts water and drive a collapsible car

have sent an email to racing post asking for discussion on bookies closing accounts and restricting bets

we should all go on betfair only problem lack of money on betfair cant get odds to decent stakes

would only allow me maximum stake of 100 quid on an 11 to 10 shot in the tennis ...

just opened my account as well ...

what are they like ??

its like my account's been restricted right from the start

the worse firm is Victors imho ...

closed my account , without warning ...after only maybe 10 bets or so ...

I had an unsettled bet , Germany to win the euros at 11 to 4 ( with money back if spain win )
and they told me that the bet would stand , but i would not get my money back if spain win ...
so they basically changed the deal ...AFTER the bet was placed ...jokers

Re crayford I dont blame them, gangs can take them for 10k in a few races.

have sent an email to racing post asking for discussion on bookies closing accounts and restricting bets

They'll be clamouring to print that i'm sure.

have sent an email to racing post asking for discussion on bookies closing accounts and restricting bets

i can hear the RP editor now .........

HOLD THE PRESSES !!!!!!

they are all the same, a complete waste of time,

You could not make it up, Simon Clare should wear size 14 rubber shoes, have a revolving bow tie that squirts water and drive a collapsible car

I had an unsettled bet , Germany to win the euros at 11 to 4 ( with money back if spain win )
and they told me that the bet would stand , but i would not get my money back if spain win ...
so they basically changed the deal ...AFTER the bet was placed ...jokers

That's appalling

Disgusting behaviouR by VC.

corals are by far the worst firm now .i was allowed 100 ew then 50 e/w ,then 25 ew,then 12.50 ew !! today i was allowed £5 e/w !!!!! and they phoned up all local shops to make sure i didnt go there as well !! this is Royal Ascot ,bookmakers used to go mad to take your bets

what a load of lying tw4ts !! any horse to lose K10 ha ha ha i aked for 50 @ 7/2 (after 9 am ) i was offered £25 !!!! what about your advert ??? 'it doesnt apply to you !!!!! ' what about your blatently false advert that says we lay ANY bet to lose £10 K .only applies to losing customers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha

bf_fananatic
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The very fact that the place market is worse than the bookmakers e/w market points the finger at just who is arbing this exchange and watch this post get pulled

Is that a pop at me because I am a bettor not a trader.If I see value I go for it.

Never understood people who are quite happy to win win a couple of quid with an arb..What is up with them..

The name of the game is BETTING to win.

Oh and Corals are a disgrace.They do not seem to have a proper Trading Policy.How many mugs have they banned !!!!

Homefortea will crush you.

I agree homefortea with what you say although backing and laying are in effect the same actions but with a win expectancy shifted always in favor of the layer, except in match type events but both can be equally profitable if "pricing" your quarry correctly

Never forget years ago when much younger watching a hills manageress whom was very nosey at my bets in her shop and pulling me up at the complexity and ringing HQ for advice and then the same woman going into ladbrokes to lay off masses of bets in her hands with another bookmaker who was happy to oblige. This still goes on only itd the exchanges they use and its all under the counter in terms of accounting if you get my drift...

My problem is I am too observant.

like that clown outfit CHRONICle, John Parrott today reported he just seen a bet go in on the rails with them on ELYAADI in the 5.00pm for 7k at 7/1, horse was freely available at 10.0 / 10.5 on here at the time.

Free publicity and I bet they could not hit the back button quick enough on their laptop after they took the bet

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Whining bitching pointless thread. If Corals were not a stick out price, you wouldn't have bothered with this pathetic moaning thread. Clearly your mate couldn't get his decent bet at anything like the 8/1 on Betfair?
and of course- you can't moan about that eh? Bet with major independents such as mine and stop wingeing

Who got out of the wrong side of bed this morning then ^^^

Clearly your mate couldn't get his decent bet at anything like the 8/1 on Betfair?

wtf has that got to do with anything . . . Did kennys mate stick 8/1 up or corals??

Your a fooking joke mate

I had an unsettled bet , Germany to win the euros at 11 to 4 ( with money back if spain win )
and they told me that the bet would stand , but i would not get my money back if spain win ...
so they basically changed the deal ...AFTER the bet was placed ...jokers

Nicky, they have to honour the contract at the time the bet was placed. Contract law offer and acceptance. I had a similar problem when they closed me down. I had 2 "free" £20 RUK subscription bets to be used after placing 10 x £5 bets during the month. They told me that I wasn't allowed to use them. I "threatened" legal action and they let me bet £40...........sadly it lost!

should have offset it on here Lance

sports surley you dont condone JOKE corals behaviour ?? if you run your firm the same way i fear for you !! as for betting on here ,i dont !! prohibitive rule 4s ,commission charges ,premium charge, no BOG ,no early liquidity, no place market to speak of ,need i go on

Sportsadvisor     21 Jun 12 07:03 
Whining bitching pointless thread.
Bet with major independents such as mine and stop wingeing


Sounds like you run a friendly type of establishment

had 100ew on sea moon in the hardwicke as they were advertising 1/3 odds ew. it was advertised all over their website and the shops, yet they have settled the bet at 1/4 as according to the traders, the offer 'changed at 1.39pm' and my bet was placed after that and it was my responsibility to check the terms at the time, despite it saying in bright red letters ***enhanced terms: 1/3 3 places from 1/5*** on the webpage. you couldnt make it up. absolute disgrace, they even settled shop bets at 1/3

keep at them ,if it was still advertised on the page they should pay

i am doing mate but ive been here so many times before im not hopeful

You might have to threaten them with small claims. Presumably it was in the Racing Post so you can get a printout as proof. I'm sure the racing post didn't say 1/3 odds until 1.39pm !

I went in yesterday to collect a  small return from a Tote e/w which placed.
It was from another shop, so they phoned to be told there was 'nothing on it'.
I got the result on my phone and said 'there, it came second'.
'Yes, so it didn't win, it wasn't an each way bet'.
I pointed to the Tote Place bit on the slip and just got a blank look

no it didnt! i took a few screen shots as well so ive got a bit to got to war with, am just waiting for their latest reply to see what my next move will be. its such a pity it's come to having to make threats to get a high street firm to honour their own special promotion t&c's!

Are you sure you didn't make a mistake about the race? In the papers they were offering 1/3 odds in Races 1 and 6, (I backed the winner of race 6 e/w in a shop and they DID pay 1/3 odds), but 1/4 odds in the Hardewicke (Race 2). Unless the website was different which seems unlikely to me. I'd take another close look at your screenshot. The "changed at 1.39" comment seems strange, I suspect the traders were just confused about the race.

i think they were offering 1/3, it said on their website they were a third so i expect they are just trying it on. also 1/3 were the terms on oddschecker and i know someone who was paid out a third in their shop. had another bet in the albany earlier in the week and a similar thing happened, the banner at the top of the market said 1/3 but the confirmation slip came back stating 1/4. it didnt place so it wasn't an issue.

also as you say, their traders have apparently confirmed they were, or why would the terms 'change' at 1.39pm?

I thought you said you were on Sea Moon? It won, so you won both the win and the place parts of the bet, no?

i was, it was the albany bet that was unplaced.

This situation with bookmakers isn't going to get any better, and is my biggest problem by some way regarding gambling. Many people I know have sopped simply because of the bookmaker's ridiculous policies. The worst IMO are Bet£3.65 and Stan James, but they are all getting worse and preventing me from doing what I could do easily a few years ago.

It is getting to the point were there will be an EU investigation into Bookmakers practices...

It has to be soon and if I was a shareholder of one of them I would bail out now...

Fen man did you look at those BPC shares...Were 7p now over 9p in two weeks...

Not trying to tip them or ramp up the price but just an interested observer.The graph seems to go up and down between 7p and 18p.Knowing the people behind the company I can imagine who buys at 7p and sells at 18p (allegedly)....

after emailing the racing post twice re corals behaviour,i have had zero replies ,i asked them not to run the misleading we will lay any bet to lay 10K advert , no reply !!

Bilbo, if you want to bet in a mature market when the value is probably gone, then exchanges are better.

If you want to back early, before the pricing mistakes have been eroded, you can't use exchanges without telling the world (and legions of trading parasites) your opinion...

A new twist from C0ral for me today.
I had a (fairly moderate) bet phoned to trading who told the manager i had to show her ID before they would take it???

Now that is customer service for you, they have totally lost the plot imo.

Confirms that they are swapping info, welcome to Big Brother.

they are paranoid ,they were checking you hadnt already backed it ,or were not banned !!

my local willhill has a notice on the window no id no entry
trouble is its counter is down a flight of stairs and to the left
you could easily walk in underage and watch your older mates play the machines
and even give them your money (the underage ones) and tell them what to bet it on
etc

Off topic butLadbrokes shares down sharply this morning.

homefortea
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It is getting to the point were there will be an EU investigation into Bookmakers practices...

Will never happen, sadly.

This happened to me with koral, I 'phoned them to take advantage of their offer about COLOUR VISION for gold cup, their advert in RP, read 8/1 I asked for a double with THE FUGUE in OAKS EW,
THE FUGUE was laid at 7/2 as printed in RP but a reduction in price for COLOUR VISION from 8/1 as printed, to 6/1, I accepted their price, but for 5 (five) days later they advertised the price at 8/1, when I 'phoned them their top spokesman blamed the RP, I said that if I was to draw from the bet I would ask for all money to be sent to my account and I would never bet with them again, I have withdrawn my money and have no intention of betting with them.

still waiting for a reply from simon clare ,you would think he didnt want to discuss this