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kenilworth
23 May 12 10:12
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I was at Towcester yesterday evening and watching 'real time' and
ATR delayed pictures at the same time and it looked impossible to me,
the ATR pictures seemingly about 100 yards behind. Any opinions ?

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By:
Deltâ
When: 23 May 12 10:13
why would you use ATR and not LV pics?
By:
rocky ttotal
When: 23 May 12 10:15
it all depends on how you use the delayed picsWink
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 10:17
Yawn. Had this debate about a month ago and the answer was a resounding yes because I do it and I make good money doing it.

I think you need to rephrase your question to:-

"Does everyone who can't make it pay think that NO ONE can make it pay?"
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 May 12 10:25
How do you avoid the obvious pitfalls, for instance the
first signs of niggling ?
-------------------------
RHM, despite having already covered this subject, you fail
to read my question properly, for instance, I didn't say i
don't make it pay, in fact I didn't say I actually play in
running, so when you have stifled your yawn, close the thread.
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 10:30
1) Your post was entitled 'Does anyone seriously think they can win  'in running' with ATR pics?'

Can't see how i've 'failed' to read it. Yes they seriously THINK they can, and yes they seriously DO.

2) Then you state that it looks 'impossible to you.'

Well, this clearly indicate you don't/can't make it pay imo.

Its just another regurgitated question on the same theme thats been covered many a time before, always with the same outcome.
By:
rocky ttotal
When: 23 May 12 10:31

May 23, 2012 -- 10:25AM, kenilworth wrote:


How do you avoid the obvious pitfalls, for instance the first signs of niggling ?-------------------------RHM, despite having already covered this subject, you failto read my question properly, for instance, I didn't say idon't make it pay, in fact I didn't say I actually play inrunning, so when you have stifled your yawn, close the thread.


do your homework,find the run styles, in a nutshell back the nigglers and lay the travelers.

By:
kenilworth
When: 23 May 12 10:47
RHM, I'll be clear, I don't bet in running,
and I hope that might be clear enough, or maybe not.

Rocky
, I would imagine those watching 'real time' racing
may also have the ability to spot the nigglers and the
travelers just as well, don't you think ?
By:
Rider
When: 23 May 12 10:52
most ppl who win IR using atr pics have the common sense to keep quiet about it
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 10:56
You're trying to make smart alec comments like 'and I hope that might be clear enough, or maybe not,' to someone who has, in all probability - based on the the national average - a higher IQ than yours. Please don't patronise me because I can run smart alec comments all day long.

If you don't bet in running what difference does it make to you?! What's more, why start a thread asking a question thats already been answered before?

Further to you opening post, 'any opinions?'

It's not a matter of opinion whether 'Does anyone seriously think they can win  'in running' with ATR pics?' It's simple fact. As black and white as that. YES.
By:
elise
When: 23 May 12 11:01
i'm really interested in how you will justify the iq probability rhm when he challenges it lol
By:
rocky ttotal
When: 23 May 12 11:03

May 23, 2012 -- 10:47AM, kenilworth wrote:


RHM, I'll be clear, I don't bet in running, and I hope that might be clear enough, or maybe not.Rocky, I would imagine those watching 'real time' racing may also have the ability to spot the nigglers and the travelers just as well, don't you think ?


I think you will find the majority of real time players are more interested in using the time difference to their advantage.

By:
bilbobaggins
When: 23 May 12 11:05
RHM - do you use ATR or other sources?
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 11:05
elise, let me explain,its simple maths, just like betting. The average is 100. Its a fact.  I would have to only have an IQ of 101 to be in the 51st percentile which means, ever so slightly, I would have a higher probability of having a higher IQ than any chosen person at random in the UK. I am well above the average in recent tests, therefore, in PROBABILITY, I have a higher IQ than kenilworth.
By:
sooty1
When: 23 May 12 11:06
suicide punting.
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 11:08
Besides, it's not a contest, I was demonstrating with sound reasoning why kenilworth shouldnt be making condescending remarks to me!
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 11:10
Bilbo, I use ATR, RUK and BF Video depending. BF Video is the first choice for speed but is far from reliable, as you know, so I'm forced to use ATR sometimes.
By:
wee eck
When: 23 May 12 11:13
To whom it may concern let it be known that  Red Hiney Monkey is a bombastic expert Hamshanker.
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 23 May 12 11:14
Fair enough - you just have to be more alert with ATR pics, I know that but they are not ideal to use. BF video for me.  It's strange that someone( kenilworth) who doesn't bet in-running even raised the question in the first place.
By:
zipper
When: 23 May 12 11:14
In running ...if you dont know the winners  or losers BEFORE the race ...well you should not be betting .
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 23 May 12 11:20
I backed a horse at NewAbb the other day, in-running, while watching BF LiveVideo. The horses had just jumped the 2nd last and I backed the horse in close-up 3rd - about a second later the market suspended!!!! So they must have been about a hurdle behind.
By:
elise
When: 23 May 12 11:30
i understand the math rhm, you seem to be making some generalisations and assumptions in exactly the same way that the op was, if your iq extends that far you might see it
By:
Facts
When: 23 May 12 11:38
It gets more like a school playground every day on here !
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 May 12 12:34
RHM, it was you who started the smart alec comments if you
look back. FWIW i think you protest too much, and I wonder
why. Perhaps I should exclude you as you must be (IYO) a
very special person.
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 May 12 12:43
I must be really dumb for not realising there are people
who can win betting 'inrunning' using ATR pictures, as are
those who go to the trouble of attending race meetings to
enable themselves to bet with the advantage of real time
viewing. They cannot aware of existence of the likes of RHM.
By:
wee eck
When: 23 May 12 12:49
kenilworth, RHM IS A real nobend.
By:
acey deucy
When: 23 May 12 12:50
I got to hand it to him,RHM sounds like a real shrood dude.Plain
By:
acey deucy
When: 23 May 12 12:53
I thought i was pretty shrood to,so i started betting in running using A.T.R pics................Done my Cobblers Big Time.Sad
By:
wee eck
When: 23 May 12 12:54
acey you are wrong, he is nowt but a nobend.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 23 May 12 12:55
most on-course players NEED the advantage of real-time pics
By:
kenilworth
When: 23 May 12 13:44
Thank you Duncan, avery diplomatic comment, which
presumes some can manage without them, (especially
those with high iq's).
By:
hearts1874
When: 23 May 12 13:45
has any one else backed a horse in-running , and not realised there sky plus was rewound by a few seconds? does'nt helpBlush

done it a few timesLaugh
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 13:58
hearts, LaughLaughLaugh

Not done it myself, but you really are going to struggle doing that! Laugh
By:
zipper
When: 23 May 12 14:01
Iq,s  you dont need em  some of my best friends had Iq,s which were brill  but the horse game  left em skink .. by the way zip is has thick as a brick..well that was on my school report  many a time ...zip still here  zips still winning  joined 2002
By:
hello :-)
When: 23 May 12 14:11
yes hearts , couldnt believe the odds being offered and piled in

then you realise somethings badly wrong but dont yet know what Laugh
By:
hearts1874
When: 23 May 12 14:15
backed a few at 999-1 in jumps racing , cruising along , im thinking this is too good to be true ....... it wasCry the **** fell haha
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 14:20
Wee eck and i do not see eye to eye, probably due to the fact he is, as im told, approaching a grand old age and his views on punting are so outdated it's compelled me to block his posts ever since I posted a profitable laying system on here some time ago.

His one-dimensional views bring to the conlusion no racing systems ever work and always end up in loss.

This forum is so amusing.
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 14:21
bring *HIM* to the conclusion... that should read.
By:
acey deucy
When: 23 May 12 14:26
Personally i always thought wee eck Knows His Onions.
By:
Red Hiney Monkey
When: 23 May 12 14:29
I didnt say he doesn't know HIS onions But his views on MY onions (and my onions earn me and wife a good living) one-dimensional.
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