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By:
wee eck
When: 23 May 12 14:31
watchit, I think you will agree that I am a decent judge of a guy and Red Monkey


is a total nobend, bye the bye his system was was complete and utter bollocks.
By:
TRD.Racing
When: 23 May 12 15:15
If you do lots of homework,dodge pots,grinders etc etc you can play in running using ATR.The only way though would be to leave bets in the system,trying to do it from the ATR pics you are watching would be impossible
By:
mousaka
When: 23 May 12 15:43
You can win using atr...but you must obviously take a view early in the race..if you know enough about racing...YES it can be done !!
By:
mousaka
When: 23 May 12 15:57
God no...that would be a cardinal sin...NEVER leave unmatched bets ..that would be the way to the poor house !!...or back to work !!
By:
BARNSTER
When: 23 May 12 16:51
so basically all your doing is making sure your selection is doing what its supposed to be doing in the first few furlongs of the race b4 you put your bet on,the trouble with that is, thats factored into the bsp and you usually have to take shorter odds for the privalage of making sure you get away ok which in the long term means your going to win or lose about the same,which makes ir on atr a waste of time.
By:
TheJudge
When: 23 May 12 17:02
Red Hiney Monkey fed 10,000 people with 1 fish and 2 loaves of bread once Wink

Jesus aint got sh1t on Red Hiney Monkey

hth
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 May 23 17:15
why would you use ATR and not LV pics?
By:
11kv
When: 23 May 23 19:43
Delts has returned.
By:
Senyatta
When: 23 May 23 21:12
sky about 9 seconds behind prem league and bt about 12 seconds behind la liga,serie a and ligue 1
By:
brassneck
When: 23 May 23 22:55
you need to get bard,he will tell you who is going to win before it happens ,and he will also tell you the next price that is coming up in running.bard can compute the race in its head as it happens or before it happens.GrinGrinGrin
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 May 23 08:04
99% playing in running probably lose…..
By:
acey deucy
When: 24 May 23 08:48
99.9
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 May 23 08:58
I agree
By:
sageform
When: 24 May 23 09:18
It is a bit surreal to watch in running prices move quickly when watching a horse that is apparently only in the pack drop to 1.1. I do use in running but only to a strict policy. If I have backed a horse at decent odds I put up a lay at half of the BSP and select keep. The in running decision is taken before the race starts so the delay is irrelevant. Why do I put up a lay? Because I seem to get a lot of decent priced bets that are in contention a furlong out and get beaten so a lay is taken 80% of the time allowing me to break even on those races.
By:
longbridge
When: 24 May 23 09:40
sageform - if you are selecting 'keep' you are placing your lay bet pre-play, so how do you know what BSP is in order to have the bet at half BSP?  Apologies if I am missing something here.
By:
sageform
When: 24 May 23 10:38
I mean the price that I backed it at (which as I usually leave it fairly last minute) is close to BSP and sometimes I choose BSP for the pre race bet as it seems to me that 80% of BSPs are above the last traded price.
By:
longbridge
When: 24 May 23 12:51
Thanks sageform.

I did a test on a (actually, for once, winning) strategy I had in 2018 or so - placed 2/8 win/place at a price and also at BSP and tracked the P/L for each.  BSP came out marginally ahead, which shows how shrewd I am not at taking prices...

(not relevant to this discussion, but I also tracked how much commission I paid as a fraction of winnings which led to my complete lack of sympathy for those complaining about PC)
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 24 May 23 16:23
Usual bull from the 2 ace holes
By:
acey deucy
When: 24 May 23 16:29
Watch yer mooth pal.Plain
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 May 23 17:12
acey deucy 24 May 23 16:29 
Watch yer mooth pal.Plain
freddiewilliams 24 May 23 16:23 
Usual bull from the 2 ace holes

Ignore Fred the helmet ffs
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 24 May 23 17:13
Probably
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 24 May 23 17:19
Looks like ipl will be 150 million + inrunning in 3 and a bit hours
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