I think you'll find that Masterofthehorse ride was no accident!.

problem is, if he rides one winning favourite in a g3 or 2 it just gives the coolmore a*se lickers even more ammunition.

Its ok richters the Turf Club has afforded him a massive break, all his christmases came at once.

Dr Gonzo

He was shíte on Betterbetterbetter two days after.

Do yourself a favour, empty your Betfair account and do your gambling on scratch cards and bingo because if you thought that was a **** ride then this game's clearly not for you.

He's had the horse in a good position all the way around and tracked the leader until hitting the front with a furlong to go and was then just pipped on the line a short head by a fast finisher from Johnston's yard, whose horses are renowned for running all the way to the line..........if that's the best you can do for finding a supposed **** ride of his then he must be doing OK.

"You ride a damn good race and get beaten a short head when you thought you'd be lucky to get within three lengths of the leader and you may get booed. You make a mistake in the race, get shut in or your horse does something silly or you're unlucky, and you win by a short head when you should have won by a length and a half—and they clap. It's not your riding. It's whether they win or lose."

The above paragraph was from 5 time Kentucky Derby winning jockey Bill Hartack, sums it up perfect for me.

the kid is a joke,end of story! he wont last much longer in the flat game,coolmore will boot his ass out before long as he will keep making mistakes and keep putting up overweight,him and his dad should quit!

Lets look at some of your claims about him kingrat.

Weak in a finish? Didn't look that way in the 2000gns when winning a driving finish.

Hit and miss when judging pace? Didn't look that way when led all the way in the Irish 2000 or when coming from behind on SNA in America and Camelot at Newmarket.

Fair enough though you said hit and miss and I've given examples of the hits so did you have any particular examples in mind for the misses and can you give us specific examples regarding your other claim about the races where he got horses beat when he shouldn't have or is that just more generalising off the top of your head?

I bet they found the joke hilarious TheTipsMaster when he won the Irish 2000, Breeders' Cup Turf, Racing Post Trophy, 2000gns and various other big race wins.

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I bet they found the joke hilarious TheTipsMaster when he won the Irish 2000, Breeders' Cup Turf, Racing Post Trophy, 2000gns and various other big race wins.

are you really going to start dishing out credit for being able to win onboard horses such as Camelot and SNA big mac would have won those races if he was ontop,the fact is,he is winning races because the stables horses are the best around and you know it

can we just deal with the facts for a minute

if he was not the trainers son,would he be good enough to be stable jockey for ballydoyle-HELL NO!
if he was not the trainers son,would he be good enough to be number 2 jockey for ballydoyle-HELL NO!
if he was not the trainers son,would he be good enough to be number 3 jockey for ballydoyle-HELL NO!
if he was not the trainers son,would he be good enough to be riding at all for ballydoyle-HELL NO!
if he was not the trainers son,would he even be able to get a job riding any trainers horses in the UK,i very much doubt it and 100% of the blame goes to his idiot father and the owners for allowing this farce to continue-FACT!

PROBABLY 'CHARITY CASE'

ah maz will u ever stop been a pedantic bore,i am not getting into a pointless long drawn out debate on examples good or bad of the kids previous rides.u will only start bullshtting and splitting hairs,a complete waste of time imo.i have made my oppinion crystal clear on the matter.accept it or dont.get over yreself

u think what u like m8,but yre mistaken me for some 1 that gives a shtt about yre views

people say how lucky jp o brien is , but look at it another way how unlucky he is .it will always be said and he knows it ,that he only has the job cause of who he is ,which must be a pain in the ass for him even if he went undeated for a season ,the moment he lost people will always throw the fact of who his day is in his face .And lets face it ,most of the comments on here are from pocket talker ,people will always think short price favs from this yard should win (bar sna which was a fcuk up)but every day after every race people are crying about jockeys the only different is there dads not a o.brien .wonder how richard hughes got his job

Funny you should mention Ferguson TheTipsMaster as he's another hard nosed type where winning is the most important thing and yet his son played 27 games for Man United in 4 years, which averages about 6 games a season before being sold on to Wolves where he played over 100 game and later to Wrexham where he played over 300. Alex Ferguson would no more have him as a passenger in his side as would Magnier have J O'Brien a passenger on his horses and this is the same Magnier that Ferguson came off worse against in the Rock of Gibraltar episode and was forced into a humiliating back down.

*Anyway* lol slight effect from the orange juice imo.

You will be a fan of my old mate Dougie Rougvie then tipmaster?

He didnt take any prisoners even when he was a kid.My school only played rugby but I played alongside Dougie when we were 9 or 10 years old(Think it was the Boys Brigade team),remember him decking a lad and the boys eye popped out of its socket.Dougie just walked away when most of the rest were throwing up.

and at 9 or 10

Hypothetical situ: If it became apparent that Joseph would be able to do a comfortable 8st7lb for the rest of his racing life do you think for one minute that he'd have been ushered into the Ballydoyle top job?, not a chance!, and do you think the incestuous Turf Club would have moved the goalposts so as to accommodate one individual probably the only flat jockey riding in Ireland who has a problem doing anything around 9st.

Maidens and conditions races were never a weight problem for flat jockeys, its not so long ago the Turf Club upped their minimum weight for handicaps to 8st4, you can still ride in Britain at 7st12 and nobody is banging the door down for change.

Shame once again on the rish racing media for not reporting on one of the most cynical changes ever introduced to Irish flat racing, a damning indictment on the so called Irish racing regulators and the media too!.

you cant do it without the horse,as said previously eaves,hanagan,liam jones,danny tudhope could all do as well as young o b if they were riding the same quality.
GOOD HORSES MAKE GOOD JOCKEYS.

kingrat
u think what u like m8,but yre mistaken me for some 1 that gives a shtt about yre views

Well you give a sh1t enough to keep replying until the one time I actually ask you to do so after making a generalisation off the top of your head and you pass over the opportunity, which is quite telling really.

GT-MOLE
Any on the subject of Joseph N'Obrain,Anthony Culhane would have won on the vast majority of his winners and would have been more refined in burying some of his losers.hth

That's far enough then and if the general consensus is that anyone could win on their horses and J O'Brien is doing so then where's the problem with him?

Dr Gonzo
Condescending as well as tedious. You ever thought about applying for a job writing for the Racing Post?

You should be thanking me as some people need saving from themselves and if you think that was a sh1te ride on Betterbetterbetter than I'm afraid you are one of them. Although how about telling us specifically what was so bad about the ride or are you another like kingrat who just spouts off and then can't back anything up when your views are challenged?

Even if you said it was because of x, y and z I might still disagree but at least I would respect the fact that you gave your reasons rather than it just be a tired and lazy criticism purely for the sake of it.......but then again there was nothing at all wrong with the ride so I appreciate it can be had to detail something that isn't there.