Neither will I Jermaine. You cannot justify slaughter. The euphoria and the aftermath. It is like a killing field. Claire looks truly shocked bless her. That isn't enjoyable more of a nightmare.
Neither will I Jermaine. You cannot justify slaughter. The euphoria and the aftermath. It is like a killing field. Claire looks truly shocked bless her. That isn't enjoyable more of a nightmare.
was of the same mind,then realised i shared the thoughts of a moron like jermaine so onwards and upwards and strength to strength on channel 4 is the call now.
was of the same mind,then realised i shared the thoughts of a moron like jermaine so onwards and upwards and strength to strength on channel 4 is the call now.
You people saying "it happens", "it's racing" etc. are missing the point.
This race is made so dangerous by the conditions (types of fences, length of race) and the field size - things that could easily be changed to save much of the bloodshed.
You people saying "it happens", "it's racing" etc. are missing the point. This race is made so dangerous by the conditions (types of fences, length of race) and the field size - things that could easily be changed to save much of the bloodshed.
Daughter finally stopped crying It's not family entertainment is it Real Xxx certificate. Certainly for over 18 s But then I'm a lot older than that and I'm upset by the Pete pictures. It was truly terrible
Daughter finally stopped crying It's not family entertainment is it Real Xxx certificate. Certainly for over 18 sBut then I'm a lot older than that and I'm upset by the Pete pictures. It was truly terrible
Whether you bet in this race again is not I'm sure of any consequence to anyone.
Why you bother to state the bleeding obvious about the fact that horses have died is also nothing new to most of us.
If you really feel strongly about the National, dont waste our time on here. Get off your arse and petition people, go to your MP, put yourself out there and do something about it.
Methinks your not passionate enough to do anything other than mouth off like many others.
Do something positive or hold your peace.
Whether you bet in this race again is not I'm sure of any consequence to anyone.Why you bother to state the bleeding obvious about the fact that horses have died is also nothing new to most of us.If you really feel strongly about the National, dont w
Wot was I saying about gob ****s in an earlier thread. This sport has capable leaders and they need to be strong stand up and be counted. Public opinion is shifting. They should be sensible enough to ban it.It cannot continue as it is for sure.
Wot was I saying about gob ****s in an earlier thread. This sport has capable leaders and they need to be strong stand up and be counted. Public opinion is shifting. They should be sensible enough to ban it.It cannot continue as it is for sure.
Watchit. What said about football was there are some bad head injurys. and the head to head and elbowing should be clamped down on massively Every week it's a blood bath and I can't remember the last game I watched without claret all over the pitch. That's what I believe But this was on a different level and could easily be prevented
The sight of the foaming traumatised synchronised chucking A P off in terror before being chased and forced to run to it's death will stay with me for years
Maybe its correct that animals are more aware of future and past events than humans
Watchit. What said about football was there are some bad head injurys. and the head to head and elbowing should be clamped down on massively Every week it's a blood bath and I can't remember the last game I watched without claret all over the
I know there's some cruel people on these forums. But I'm astonished that some can defend this slaughter. Like I said could poor old synchronised make it more clear he didn't want to race. Then gets chased across the county to hs death. What a way to go
I know there's some cruel people on these forums. But I'm astonished that some can defend this slaughter. Like I said could poor old synchronised make it more clear he didn't want to race. Then gets chased across the county to hs death. What a way to
Particpants are killed in Boxing, Football, Greyhound racing, Motor racing, Motor cycle racing, Power boat racing, etc, etc, ..... shall we ban those sports as well ?
Particpants are killed in Boxing, Football, Greyhound racing, Motor racing, Motor cycle racing, Power boat racing, etc, etc, ..... shall we ban those sports as well ?
The amount of people killed crossing the road is an ongoing everyday event, do I assume correctly that Jermaine has stopped crossing the roads as well...... let's move on....hiihoo Silver AWAAAaayyy......
The amount of people killed crossing the road is an ongoing everyday event, do I assume correctly that Jermaine has stopped crossing the roads as well...... let's move on....hiihoo Silver AWAAAaayyy......
jermaine defonebox Every week it's a blood bath and I can't remember the last game I watched without claret all over the pitch.
Jermaine... please stay away from any code of rugby then, it will be too much for you. And don't ever turn your tv on when there's boxing on.. or you'll end up in rehab.
The sight of the foaming traumatised synchronised chucking A P off in terror before being chased and forced to run to it's death will stay with me for years
Foaming and traumatised before chucking AP off in terror????
Horse is spooked by something, does a jink, AP ends up on the deck. Happens.
jermaine defoneboxEvery week it's a blood bath and I can't remember the last game I watched without claret all over the pitch. Jermaine... please stay away from any code of rugby then, it will be too much for you. And don't ever turn your tv on
luanne 15 Apr 12 10:30 Joined: 08 Apr 08 | Topic/replies: 445 | Blogger: luanne's blog i know it is sad that two horses were killed in the national and it is a dangerous sport but just remember that a couple of weeks ago three horses died in a two mile flat race at the dubai carnival.
horses were born to run and many get injured in the fields at home what wil we suggest soon that we tie them up so they cannot move and so be safe.
again i say it is very sad to see any animals suffer or die for our enjoyment but quality of life is important to is it not.Love
luanne15 Apr 12 10:30Joined:08 Apr 08| Topic/replies: 445 | Blogger: luanne's blogi know it is sad that two horses were killed in the national and it is a dangerous sport but just remember that a couple of weeks ago three horses died in a two mile fl
jermaine defonebox 15 Apr 12 08:31 Up date I will never watch or bet of national hunt again it's a blood sport
To paraphrase Lester Piggot
'....well they'd just better pack it all in then...
jermaine defonebox 15 Apr 12 08:31 Up date I will never watch or bet of national hunt again it's a blood sportTo paraphrase Lester Piggot'....well they'd just better pack it all in then...
jermaine, synchronised looked spooked, john could be wrong, that was his oppinion, well in my oppinion, synchronised did not look in the slightest bit bothered.
jermaine, synchronised looked spooked, john could be wrong, that was his oppinion, well in my oppinion, synchronised did not look in the slightest bit bothered.
I suspect the OP is not alone, I felt a little uneasy myself. But his right not to participate is just that - his right. When it comes to calls for banning the race, I would take a different stance. There is no defence when the arguement against is that horses' lives are being risked. No amount of platitudes about "5 star treatment" or teary eyed anthropomorphic gush will ever persuade one single anti to capitulate when the job they are bred and trained for carries one iota of risk. There is only one correct approach, for this issue as well as many others in our cancel culture century. Tell them squarely and forthrightly, "This is what we do and we will continue to do it. Whilst we recognise that you, in your minority, do not believe that such activity should be permitted under law, we demand that you recognise and respect that we act responsibly in accordance with stipulated regulations. Furthermore we steadfastly refuse to accept that you, in that minority, have the right to disrupt or prevent us from doing what we do in such manner. Now please stand aside". Unless we have the confidence to stand up for ourselves and our culture, we will sink further into the abject poverty of what it is to have a meaningful and diverse existence.
I suspect the OP is not alone, I felt a little uneasy myself. But his right not to participate is just that - his right. When it comes to calls for banning the race, I would take a different stance.There is no defence when the arguement against is th
I'd want to be the racehorse I reckon. Seems like a much better life.
So should we ban all meat and animal products tomorrow?
Cow bred for meat, or racehorse bred to race?Both livestock.I'd want to be the racehorse I reckon. Seems like a much better life.So should we ban all meat and animal products tomorrow?
Jermaine do you eat meat of some sort,if you do then you should go to the slaughter house and watch the animals as they know what is happening some try to jump free and also struggle.That surely is more cruel they have no chance to live a full life,some are only 6 months to a year old when they should live years.If you do eat meat you are promoting this happening,I myself do eat some meat and think it is part of life,what would happen to these horses if they did not become racehorses,dog meat I presume.You cannot just say that the National is cruel due to the casualties,even on the flat horses are put down.But these horses are treated very well in their stables and well looked after,not queuing up up to get turned into dog meat,or left in a field with nothing to eat and having no Vet care.
Jermaine do you eat meat of some sort,if you do then you should go to the slaughter house and watch the animals as they know what is happening some try to jump free and also struggle.That surely is more cruel they have no chance to live a full life,s
McCririck said Synchronised should never have started the race having thrown McCoy and run loose, while Claire Balding in commentary just before the start said the horse 'didn't look up for it', appearing jittery when McCoy presented it to the first fence.
If Balding could see that from the commentary box, then you'd think McCoy must've known his mount was reluctant to race too. But then,being McCoy, perhaps he thought the horse was just being soft.
McCririck said Synchronised should never have started the race having thrown McCoy and run loose, while Claire Balding in commentary just before the start said the horse 'didn't look up for it', appearing jittery when McCoy presented it to the first
i think the start is the crucial. they need to take the speed out of the race over those first 2 or three fences. how you do that is up for debate...a different starting position perhaps. i found today a tough watch. i love horseracing and ive been betting on it all my life but i dont want to see animals suffer.
i think the start is the crucial.they need to take the speed out of the race over those first 2 or three fences.how you do that is up for debate...a different starting position perhaps.i found today a tough watch. i love horseracing and ive been bett
When I was forced to play rugby at school back in the 80s - a game I utterly loathe - it wasn't uncommon for players to have ears half bitten off and eyes trod on deliberately in a ruck. As a tight-head prop, I was usually the one being trodden on. A game was played in almost absolute silence, only the two team captains being allowed to speak. Woe betide any other team member who said anything ; they'd get a swift whack around the head from one of the games masters, all of whom were total sadists. One of them thought it great fun to swerve his Lancia Delta at you as he tore down the school's driveway. He eventually moved to another school, where he was dismissed for throwing a child against the gym wall,triggering an epileptic fit. He finally found his niche, it seems, by joining the Met'.
I say this since years later I was chatting to a chap and his wife who coach young kids at rugby, and by the look on both their faces after I'd told them what it was like playing school rugby back when I did,they were both utterly appalled. As much as we hated it, we accepted it ; but that didn't make it right, and I know few people today who would think kids being brutalised in that way was acceptable, then or now.
Times change. Perhaps the Grand National isn't a sensible race to have in the 21st century, not just because of public attitudes towards the race, but also because of the simple fact that most horses these days are bred for speed, and are therefore not up to the still unique set of challenges that the National presents them with.
When I was forced to play rugby at school back in the 80s - a game I utterly loathe - it wasn't uncommon for players to have ears half bitten off and eyes trod on deliberately in a ruck. As a tight-head prop, I was usually the one being trodden on. A
bluebook - i resonate wiv ya - early 80s p.e exercise we had a teacher who fookin luvd himself afta appearing on Its A Knockout for Sunderland on the telly - very apt where story goes- kid luvd himself and so did the soppy gals at school as it appens - anyway only cricket game i eva rememba playing at school p.e. teacher throws a bouncer at a lad who was 6 stone wet thru if ya lucky - more to story than that - anyway he missed by inches on a rubber mat pitch by way so bounce was propa nasty - tried again and got the lad and thort he was the dogs bollix until the lad strode down the pitch and knocked him out wiv the best eva swing ive eva seen
#oneswingandyaout
bluebook - i resonate wiv ya - early 80s p.e exercise we had a teacher who fookin luvd himself afta appearing on Its A Knockout for Sunderland on the telly - very apt where story goes- kid luvd himself and so did the soppy gals at school as it appens
onlooker 15 Apr 23 21:22 Not your smartest move - RICO ...
Bringing this Thread back from many years ago.
Just WHAT was the Point?
It certainly ain't funny. Cry
The ball bag is a pain, you don’t get fired at with a sawn off for nowt ffs…
onlooker 15 Apr 23 21:22 Not your smartest move - RICO ...Bringing this Thread back from many years ago.Just WHAT was the Point?It certainly ain't funny. CryThe ball bag is a pain, you don’t get fired at with a sawn off for nowt ffs…
Let’s put it this way,you punt on a NH race and the selection is ten lengths behind the leader going to the last fence..
What are you thinking ? Answer on a postcard…..
Let’s put it this way,you punt on a NH race and the selection is ten lengths behind the leader going to the last fence..What are you thinking ? Answer on a postcard…..
I do understand the sentiments of posters but I feel they are missing the point. The GN is probably the most iconic jumps race in the world and if the protestors manage to get it banned I feel the whole NH scene will be under considerable threat. The numbers of protestors would grow inexorably as a result of the GN being banned and they would make NH racing and possibly all horseracing impossible to manage. Personally I never enjoyed watching yesterdays race but I do believe the whole hysterics of the situation, the time factor and the faster ground played into the protestors hands and they may even get some pleasure from that.
I do understand the sentiments of posters but I feel they are missing the point. The GN is probably the most iconic jumps race in the world and if the protestors manage to get it banned I feel the whole NH scene will be under considerable threat. The
they are not pets they are bred to race as livestock are bred to be eaten you cant take all the risk out of sport only minimise it- they will need to look again at the layout of the race and they need to aim for soft ground to slow the race down using words like slaughter is pathetic
they are not pets they are bred to race as livestock are bred to be eatenyou cant take all the risk out of sport only minimise it- they will need to look again at the layout of the race and they need to aim for soft ground to slow the race down using