Synchronised - why you must back him balls out

25% bankroll stake laying his SP, cant win

Oh yes it can.
And Ladbrokes are going 12/1 (according to Spyker). That's pathological.

I'd have Long Run at 10/3 to make it to the Chair tbh

You need your head examined if you are even thinking of backing Synchronised, I just cannot have the beast on my mind at all.

theirs money to be made on the beast, win or lose ! .

Are you being serious Long run would be 10/3 for this if he won the gold cup in what fantasy land would be such a stupid price i wish he was i could lay him for fortunes place and win .. I would back not to finish if he was in the race ....... And sync is no value either a rubbish price he wont win .....

For me JUNIOR has become a must back price although 11-1 with faller insurance is tempting

six places with chandlers surely some of the other firms will match them in the morning..

You are a brave man(or dumb) to have faith in Jonjo

any one know any promotional codes.

The problem is not jonjo bookies are hyping up this animal they want to take money for it they know it wont win... Huge weight, hard race at chelts coming up against fresh horses, dodgy jumper, will be on and of the bridle all race and this is the favorite for the national work that out..

6 places but what odds

Mugs bet whether or not it goes on to win,backing for the reasons given.

A muted reception so far. Maybe some people made up their minds about what could and could not win the National when the weights came out. I don't imagine AP will make much use of him on the first circuit, so Synchronised may actually be suited by the extra distance in that he won't be under pressure to lay upside the lead early. Welsh national win was 3 3/4m on more testing ground. In any case, nobody should dismiss Synchronised on the grounds that Festival form doesn't transfer to Aintree.  The extra week's interval between the two meetings has made the old cliche redundant; just look at the first two days' results. Synchronised  I'm very optimistic about his chance.

prices with vc seem to be a couple of prices shorter than most firms .. I will split may stake take half with the best price and half with vc if they are not more than two points shorter

why am i only allowed a tenner max on it unitedbiscuits,your top price 10/1 suggests you want to lay it???

I don't work for William hill, jason, but I think I can answer for them in saying that they know you will sell it on here for £10.20

what would be the point of that exactly?

I would rather join the Synchronised  Mu£fdiving team in the Olympics than put money on the falsest favourite EVER in the history of the GN.

There will less Q_hunts in the team than those backing AP.nap

I thought similar about GARRISON SAVANNAH - when he ran 2nd in the National -
after winning the Gold Cup in 1991

He went off at 7/1 - Ran off a rating (157) - 4 less than Synchronised (161) -
But carried just 11st 1 lb - compared to Synchronised's 11st 10 lb.

Synchronised with faller insurance for me, if around 5/1 I'll be very happy with that.

You tell me, jason.

Mole - come 16:30 tom you may have to eat something less palatable. Your words.

could be a lot of very disappointed people tomorrow

Onlooker,Garry was a far better animal than Synchronised...........would not have got near him in either GC or GN.nap

he's a good horse who should be respected as such but he's not the best jumper and had the toughest of tough races just 4 weeks ago........LAY

Why would that bother me United?

Not laying the nag and my reputation is definitely a country mile ahead of yours on here................not to mention my record of winners.hth

has to be respected, over park fences he is well capable of giving the weight to these rivals, it is the Aintree fences that create the question mark. He landed sideways after the last in the Gold Cup and still won going away, a fair effort. I think it is quite a weak National this year, I'm on Cappa Bleu e/w, but I think Synch and Giles Cross are the dangers.

OP, re your user name, are you just keen on biscuits or did you study a bit of EU law? Famous trademarks case if memory serves

Tough as old boots,remember him winning the Midlands National at Uttoxeter,cannot see him out of the frame...

GT Mole - I apologise profusely, I wasn't aware of your reputation on here. When did that start to build?

Gut feeling tells me he wont win,my gut aint let me down yet.

Maybe so acey,you will get a run though....

Or the runs.......

A few years ago United..............ask acey...........btw the last time his gut let him down......he narrowly avoided Tescos window.

Don't quite understand your imagery acey deucy, how would your gut let you down? Explode? Strangle you Alien-style after eating its way out of your body?


I think you had better keep Synchronised on your side tomorrow, acey deucy.

Not tomorrow son,lay away!

Only because he was wearing Azda boxer shorts but he hasnt been wrong since.

If he wins i will show my arse in Sainsburys.......And thats the troof.

Dont tell us Morrisons have banned you as well?

ataglance...nuffsaid!

united biscuits have a look at my "synchronised grand national  the case for and against) thread on the grand national forum .

neill d - very astute of you, "the legal profession rather appeals to me", and you are free to quote me on any related matter.

No, honestly, the name has its origins with the Fosters Oval, from there to the Allied Dunbar House Of Commons and only a short leap to the Unitedbiscuits Bosnian Peace Corps.

Good luck all, get on Synchronised, or give me a better 10/1 shot!!

Thanks FOYLESWAR.

Well, FOYLESWAR puts the case more articulately than me on the hitherto unconsidered Grand National forum. (kind of like a House Of Lords to this Common Chamber).

I won't guarantee he'll win

I'll guarantee he'll shorten

Good luck all!!

Good luck anyway united, it wouldn't surprise me if he did it as there is only one factor to overcome........ the fences
He is by far the best horse in the race. If he gets over the first 6 and things settle down, 10's will look v big.

ROFL...................UB..............FW is normally a decent and considerate judge but his head has been turned at this meeting.

If you trust him on this then you need therapy...................both of you............sorry FW............see bumped thread for reasoning.

i dont even think it will beat the stablemate Sunnyhillboy nevermind the rest of the field.  another horse will definitely do him up the run in with that weight.

the horse cant jump hes got no chance

he loses lengths for fun at normal fences so dread to think what will happen in the national

Plenty of opposition, I guess that's why Synchronised is 10/1 now. Not too many choosing from the other 39, funnily enough. Must go now. But I'll be back on tomorrow - first when it trades at 8.0, then when it wins.

Don't do an mfordy for your own sake.

got no chance

spider if this horse cannot jump how the feck has he won 2 nationals a grade 1 lexus and a gold cup ,

He gets to the other side. Look at Follow The Plan the other day, very untidy but got round. No point getting huffy, we'll know 4.30 tomorrow.

Too late United..............the you want to lay it...........was clocked as backtracking.

You are not clever enough to fool the nightshift.............all in on Synchronised.................that is what you will get tomorrow.........no greening up or bull..........you are in up to your neck.GL though

Red Rum the very best national horse was one of few in history that ran over 100 races and only fell once!

horses prone too errors have a poor record in the national which is the biggest test for any jumps horse in world, syns odds are a better reflection of it finishing IMO

Bf_f has found an angle.

Icendently syncs time for the gold cup was nearly ten seconds slower than long runs which was on slower surface, on this basis its odds are not justified in this ultimate test!

Ive never backed a horse with more than 11st in the national in my life but my cahunas will be well and truly out at 8am outside ladbrokes tomorrow  morning....THE best chaser in the country so has all his 11st+ rivals beat..giles cross was sticking out like a sore thumb on 10-1 but ground going against him now.
I wasnt going to bother with sychronised as thought id missed the best prices and expecting it to be 9/2 SP but 12/1 is a MAX BET JOB.
Famous last words but just has to get round...

he may not take to the fences but its the same for most of them who havent tried them ,what i see is a gold cup winner trained by probably the best trainer of staying chasers in the country ,ridden by the champion jockey who is still improving , in a handicap trading at 10/1 on here and allegedly 12s at lads  tommoz , and for those reasons im in .................deep !

already on at average odds of around 19/1 and will go in again tommoz at lads !

On the plus side Syncs running a hell of a lot better than last year when he came 3rd, 12L down at Uttox a tricky track      (Utt 34GS  C1HcChL 41K     11-12    3/17 (12L Minella Four Star 9-9) 9/2F) which is 2 furlong less than today but was he running on or fading is the question and the racing post(my source) never shows race comments which is a bit low brow for a major racing data firm, perhaps felllow form pundits know the answer to its stamina!

good old gg.com has the answer to its stamina at this sort of trip, and its not good

3rd
1 (-)    19 Mar 2011
Good to Soft
4m 1f 110y
Class 1    15:00 Uttoxeter
A P McCoy (11st 12lb)
Jonjo O'Neill    9/2

In touch, lost place 3rd, reminders in rear 10th, modest 9th after 15th, closed 17th, went 2nd 2 out, no impression on winner last, demoted to 3rd flat

Syncs will fall fact crap jumper lay it

and check out the lower rated horses that beat him when he was favourite that day!

1          Minella Four Star (IRE) 25/1     8    9-95     David Pipe     133    *    *    »
    C O'Farrell5
        

«     2     11      Ballyfitz 16/1     11    10-02 p    Nigel Twiston-Davies     133    *    *    »
    David England
        

«     3     1      Synchronised (IRE) 9/2F     8    11-12     Jonjo O'Neill     159?    *    *    »

he made 5 niggling mistakes in the gold cup and a.p was pushing for much of the race but he still come through and powered up the hill and won going away , a lot of people have crabbed the form " only beat a rag and long run didnt run his race ect) but long run jumped and travelled the best i have ever seen him in the gold cup and synchronised still beat him cold , not saying he will win but i think he is still being underestimated 12s is fair imo.

at such short odds, top weight and suspect stamina and jumping, could be the lay of the day IMO

Lay the balls out of it lads foyleswar get on kilyglen

bfanatic lay him if you want but if he is still in touch 2 out make sure you have a clean pair of underpants on hand ! feeling youll be needing em .

Question for backers:

Why not wait until they have jumped the first four or five?

You will know by then whether the horse has taken to it (Ok. he's won top-class races but his jumping is very worrying for this unique test), and because he will be getting the hurry up and have most of them in front of him, whatever is going on, you'll almost certainly get a bigger price than SP anyway.

Personally I don't think he will take to this test but if he does jump those first few fences OK I would not be surprised to see him defy the weight. After all, the further they go, the better he is, which makes his Gold Cup win all the more creditable.

By the way, I like Always Right at 50s on here. Not sure he'll stay but travelled like a beast the last day until stopping as if something amiss. Pretty nice weight, breathing op since, seems a good bet to me.

ha ha , if dessie was running i would back him for sure but we know he would do his right hand
wandering trick at canal turn and end up ouside a sunbed center somewher in liverpool

LEFT COURSE GOING WELL...............ON THE BIT SWEEPING around city centre......................came under pressure and a left hand drive.

FW.........drop us off here mate.........Grapes............tired in final drive to the Adelphi.

Finished knackered.........went down well when teeth came out........palate operation and tongue tie for next year might improve her FW.

will be outpaced and making mistakes early, in the rear going out on 2nd circuit and pulled up or fall.
giles cross ditto to slow on the ground.
get on the west end rocker

Your not funny bf at all where r u from divy

am also on sunnyhill ,treacle and junior to smaller stakes  but i tipped this fella up for the gold cup(see chelt forum ) had my biggest bet of the season on him so he owes me nothing ,

Just look at the prices of previous favourites...the midnight club went off at 15/2 last year for gods sake.

How can anyone describe a gold cup winner at 12/1 too short or lay of the day??

MAX BET JOB

am from knotty ash, ken dodds accountant so dont mess

Ken Dodd is skintight lad so u must be **** lar

Do a double kilyglen and Liverpool to beat everton 4 nil both naps

hes not tight at all its just when he was young tax was at a shilling a pound, in fact he thought it still was!

I said skint

So u must be crap at yer job pal

During the trial it was revealed that Dodd had very little money in his bank account. He did however have £336,000 in cash stashed in suitcases in his attic. When asked by the judge, "What does a hundred thousand pounds in a suitcase feel like?", Dodd made his now famous reply, "The notes are very light, M'Lord."

U must be old

If you've ever seen Synchronised in the flesh I seriously can not see how you could back him in the National... My money in the match bet is with the thing with blue flashing lights on. Depending how heavily backed he is tomorrow, I will be laying him to place.

Word on twitter that Ladbrokes are going big on Synchronised tomorrow - they are saying they are going to hold a price of 12/1. I would anticipate other bookies following - probably fred, bet 365 and William Hill. I can see Synchronised drifting big time...

Again, so back with faller insurance DUH !! If he gets round he will be in there, can't see AP pulling him up.
He stays, he has won top class races and like it or not, he has McCoy on top.
Becauseicouldntsee and Alph Beat as well for me.
We will see.

Got a feeling a certain someone bets with Ladbrokes so if there going biggest price, it isn't a positive at all for his chances.

Matters not who you bet with..................rank bad value in any currency...................................98% losers...........OP included.hth

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/aintree-grand-national-synchroni...

cant see it winning far to much weight imo but it will be interesting to see what price he starts

a jonjo horse in a handicap - he decides if it wins or loses

Dean.............with all due respect I doubt you will meet a straighter or nicer person in racing.FACT

some people cant lay straight in bed

Jonjo and JP certainly can............they need to win handicaps for what exactly?

Btw was it you or Ger that fooked off and left him with his cancer?

Or were you one of the good guys that left him growing Ivy up the walls?

weight and fences will stop this horse. In the GC they didn't get away from him when they had the chance. they will be long gone tomorrow

doantwin2easy     14 Apr 12 01:22
Your winner then ?

Any horse carrying top weight and lifting itself over these fences will start treading water with a mile to go. Yes he stays well but he is racing against plenty of horses will be in their comfort zones with less weight.

Sunnyhillboy has a more realistic chance.

biblical place lay then?

Lay it bob,place and win whatever happens it will trade bigger in both markets before:

Falling
Pulling up
Struggling to keep up