Do pro punters do the placepot?

Get better returns backing their picks to place as singles imo. You can go thru the card with 1 line only to find you just get back what you paid out.

yeah, Like Angus haddock and that bloke wot picked that Hodge girly rider wot had never ridden a winner when she won him the million pound pool !

Lot of ifs and buts Hayden

Yes mate think Arctic Actress must have virtually kept it alive tbh , after deductions currently paying £23.70 after a couple of legs.


Good luck anyone still going 

Hello Hayden.. . . Hope all good.

I don't know any pro's who don't do ppots!!The easiest way for punters to win is if they study aw meetings as you can put a line through 60% of the runners most meetings,fortunately most punters don't seem to realize this.

All contrived these posts,as much of the carp on here is.

Goes into hospital for inducement monday if nothing happens over the next two days.Cheers drew,i'm pretty hands on as far as helping out but will still try and get some work done,up till 3am everynight so won't be so bad helping out.

Here's one ^^^^i am a pro punter and you're second to last sentence answers your last,most pros will have studied every runner in every race and have a shortlist in every race.The bet is a massive advantage over your daily punter,in every way!!

I couldn't even get the bets on when they weren't going in the pool because of constantly winning on them,banned for 50 mile radius.All hills shops banned in midlands and shown my profile,the only slight negative about the bet is the take out if your forms 10x better than an average punter everythings in your favour.There's nothing complicated about it,your form against an average punter over six races they can't possibly win,for the average punter it's a waste of time with such little studying.

Duncan when they weren't going into the pool,you could drive to surrounding hills shops within a certain area and all of them wouldv'e been phoned through by the time you reached the next shop.Thats how great the bet was,they just wouldn't take them,now they go in the pool i don't get so involved but anyone doing a full card and knowing horses on that card that are going to be overbet ,should be doing the bet.

Pros would be very interested BUT 27% takeout and virtually all bets go in pool is off putting.

I am not a pro but I am a modest winner and placepots can, relatively often, offer very good value. I do win on them.

pablo I think one of the misconceptions in punting is that increasing the variables decreases the angle a professional can take on a given bet/race. I totally agree that what is effectively a 6-race accumulator introduces variables that make it hard to be sure of yourself, but as you said, basic mathematics skills are required to assess value and many punters that play the placepot do not take these into account.

As one loose example of what I am trying to say, I placed a 16 line perm at a summer jumps meeting two years back (including all 4 that ran in the 4-runner novice chase). The outsider (16-1) won that race and that knocked virtually all of the (presumably) recreational money out. I won the bet to a 2 pound stake and the dividend was nearly 700 pounds. All because of one surprising result, where it really didn't cost me much as a player to perm all four horses.

There are loads of other examples that illustrate the point but I'll not bore everyone by elaborating. Suffice to say that a mathematical approach to placepot betting can, in the right circumstances, make it a very good value bet.

Thats a poor example as you couldv'e done hundreds of small perms alike and you said that was the only result pure chance,you may as well do straight line of favs as doing a bet like that especially on aw meetings.
To win on the bet is all form related,turf meetings are more complex as you're factoring in everything so usually ending up with larger perms.If you're doing the aw its all time based if doing it as it should be done,very few punters will be doing this for one race never mind six.It's easier to cut perms down on a high % of aw meetings,but on the flip side punters won't invest heavily when crds are impossible.There are huge edges to all meetings and surfaces,that very few take advantage of thus the bet banned from shops and having to go in the pool.I could go on but would take another thousand words.

My perms were refused before the toat was even introduced,after having several big wins over a months period the hills shops around my area put the stakes up to 10pences when no other shops anywhere were doing so.You mention 12 years ago which is about right,hills did exactly the same with handicap chases on 6 horse tricast races at around the exact same time another bet that was knocked back and probably the best value bet around apart from the ppots.

If that were true he was either very lucky,stupid or both.

he was a semi pro footballer,and he moved from a terraced house to a detched mansion in alderlay edge within 3 months,we are talking in the silver bucks wayward lad days,where you would have 3 races with bankers in for placepots and only 3 to find.so a 5k ,10k line if not affecting the pool is a good bet.

laddies at first,then they stopped him  - he was the reason they went into the pools,he struggled in the end to get any sort of bet on,he went to the track ,stephen little would lay him,once they went into the pool then the bet becomes pointless.