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*advise please* thinking of going big on frankel for QEII - should i?
*advise please* thinking of going big on frankel for QEII - should i?
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One of the reasons, bookmakers survive so long in making a living in horse racing, is that they love this time of the year.
Changes to the going and horses going "over the top" are 2 main reasons why you get unexpected results. On all known form Frankel is in a different league to the opposition, but bear in mind he has been on the go all season, and that is one of the things that would concern me if I was having a very big bet on him, not that backing odds on chances is my way of betting anyway. |
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Tobermory is bang on the target. His odds are just his opinion, and you have to decide your own
odds yourself, but his approach is precisely right. |
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Tobes had danedream as 100/1+ shot for the Arc. His ratings are twank.
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"Tobes" has his own opinions. What I'm saying is that his approach to betting is right. His
analysis of the form book might be totally sh1te, but that's another problem. |
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Agree totally. It's great methodology but just like his football prices he's chucking the wrong petrol in a very fine engine. It's a commendable approach and that's definitely to be acknowledged.
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ignore german group at your peril,m johnston doesnt mind sending his over there ie german st leger?.any horse winning a g1 race by 5 lenths must be respected.
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frankel different ball game ,next year, 4yold giving weight to top class 3yrolds?.
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deadbrain59 -
dude... By next year Frankel is going to be nigh on a 140 rated beast... (SOME of us believe he is already that calibre) Have YOU seen anything this year in the 2yr olds you think will be 130+ next?! Which they will need to be to even get within sniffing distance of his arse as he goes by them, even receiving 8lbs early in the season I'll be astonished... but role on next year as we may be getting some odds AGAINST when he runs :O)) |
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agreed im a big frankel fan,
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frankel for me after 7 bar the FAV , BOOKS STRUGGLE for cash out of the rags ? which looks the case for saturday ..cant ever forget newmarket run a classic from the front queally is a thinker and will have thought this thro come raceday ..I wish him well and SIR HENRY , also owner great supporter of racing worldwide love these colours over the years . a great chance to buy money for big players , only an opinion from an older betfairian .. GUT FEELING ESSENTIALL TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH YOUR HYPE ................
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ty Pete, yes i would advise people to make their own ratings/prices.
In Group 1s this year my prices have only really looked a bit silly afterwards in the Euro Racing. I also had Immortal Verse at 30 for the Jaques Le Marois . The French form is difficult to rate with the way they run their typical group races. .No matter how great the winner of a G 1 is , there is often still something useless only 2 1/2 lenghts back .If Frankel was trained by Freddie Head and only ever ran at Longchamp and Deauvile, his biggest winning margin would likely be about 1.5 lengths. As for Danedream i just have to admit i've always thought German Racehorses the equivalent of British Tennis Players. Last 4 runs she had 3 easy wins in top German races , 1 run in France, and finished 5th in a nothing special field. Then there is Campanolgist; over here , every time you see him he is tailing off in a Group 3, goes to Germany and wins Group 1s comfortably . Well done to the people who could see beyond all that and feel there was something special about Danedream, wether in her running syyle or whatever (still don't think the actual form was suggesting she could have done that). Frankel i have , since the Guineas , always had quite a bit shorter than he is available anywhere. |
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go BIG, and then but more on[;)]hope that helps[:D]
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Frankel is the superstar of horse racing. Like Usain Bolt, Lionel Messi and Sachin Tendulkar he transcends his sport. You don’t need to be interested in form, odds, tactics or jockeyship to be impressed by his freakish speed.
Frankel could have a Bolt-style impact on the popularity of horse racing among the masses if only the powers that be market his brilliance in the manner he deserves. from the Manchester Evening News. Frankel has to win for the good of the sport!!  |
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buses - you said on other thread you're going EW. really
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Steam in big Fella!
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Immortal Verse
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oh definitely paul, good solid bet EW for me!!
20 quid ew |
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haha so why you write that on other thread?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
20 E/W Frankel has won NOW |
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write what paul?
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i cant help it, im just an ew THIEF!
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oh sory you really are backing £20 EW.
at 1/3 isnt EW gonna make you like 2p |
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of course not paul
no bet for me, i dont mind shorties but i dont back 1/3 shots in g1 races no matter how much better they are than the rest!! he still has to negotiate around the rest of the horses, traffic probs, false step, jockey error, all these things combined i cant bet on him!! there are much better betting opportunities out there at 1/3 and bigger. not fr me!! gl if u bet! |
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oh right so you wrote EW bet as a joke then?
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Please ilwab
Go for it just this once You know it makes sense |
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of course
hes 1/3[smiley:crazy]  |
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not for me inono, there are far betterbets out there!!
ill be cheering him home! |
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lol buses i used to bet 50p EW on the national as a kid.
happy innocent days  |
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ah yeah
i would never make fun of anyone tht bets small, or just wants to have a quid on for interest!! is not like any of us can make it pay anyway |
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If Willie Carson says 'put your house on it'.....................don't!
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your a good guy buses. a breathe of fresh air on here. do you not make much like me?
like you i would support frankel without a bet anyway as i think he's good for the sport like messi or bolt |
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http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/other_sports/s/1461328_horse-racing-frankel-is-in-the-frame
read this buses mate |
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Paulme,ilwabs advice for where to put your money is...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
BLACK with an off white head and he is NEVER wrong.hth m8[;)] |
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paul me - Us humans are a corrupted lot - dont ever believe all that you hear or see when it comes to these so called stars
Frankel has not been corrupted by our society - he only knows one thing - winning[;)] |
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paul me that media link should surely read "Frankel Innit"
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ah i do ok, im up and down like a yoyo but dont make/ or lose anything worth talking about tbh!
i do dream of eventually making significan sums but its more of a long term thing, and unlikely to happen anyway [smiley:crazymost just talk sh!te on here andliar about winning aswell as losing large amounts which is very odd! im pretty sure i could give even the best tipsters a run for their money on either football or horse racing yet they will tell u they are making a bomb!! all b0llocks paul, the sooner u realise this the better  BUT someone is winning thats for sure, im pretty sure they dont post on this forum tho |
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im pretty sure i could give even the best tipsters a run for their money on either football or horse racing yet they will tell u they are making a bomb!!
spot on. im actually top of a tipping comp on here yet i make F all. too honest i am inono - FRANKEL INNIT lol |
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ilwab - I am winning, the only thing that bohers me is that I could be losing soon |
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Like a yoyo
Also like a fiddlers elbow paulme but that is only in the Stags Head with Big Brigitte,his advice is usually sound even if his mind is not.[;)] |
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