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Not at todays date,we shall see..
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Kauto may have one more race in him at kempton
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POLLY THE PARROT
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Agreed den,still a big one in KS,could be Kempton,definitely a fcast with LR and dutched bet at the mo.
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at 11,i love dreams myself?
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Wrong type of perch cashless.[;)]
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HEE HEE
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Kauto Stone ( sic ).
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Is that (sic) as a cashless parrot SS?
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He will be!
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I have no interest in this CASLESS person. I was pointing you in the direction of something that COULD beat Long Run. You can forget about Kauto Star and Denman. Too old at 12 these days.
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*CASHLESS
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I have even less in this Busvaldo.
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Sorry SS,i thought he said Classless?
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SQUAWK
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I know what you meant SS (in both cases).Cant see how you can write KS and Denman off just on age grounds.Modern thinking seems to write NH horses off at 10 and yet there is no reason why a 12yo cannot win a big one or 13 for that matter.
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No doubt you will be chalking them up appropriately!
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Evs each of 2 to pick up a Grade 1 this season.[;)]
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Kauto and denman havent been overly raced, should get at least 1 more great run from them. Not sure about cheltenham, imperial could do it there, but the KG and maybe the hennesey
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My finest hour was Cue Card in the Bumper,beware!
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ACTUALLY IF YOU THINK THIS LONG RUN IS SOMETHING SPCIAL YOUR ALL DELUDED COME END OF MARCH ITLL BE "WHAT WAS ALL THAT ABOUT"
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Schooled very well recently,always was going to be a chaser.Very interesting this season.[;)]
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Last 12-y-o to win The Gold Cup was What A Myth in 1968. Tied Cottage was admittedly the moral winner about 30 years ago. But fewer big races are won by older horses now. May be training methods or possibly smaller fence or even breeding. Kauto Star was still at his best at 9,slightly surprisingly for a French-bred but has been going gradually downhill since. Denman has looked fragile since his Gold Cup win though obviously he has come up with the odd exceptional performance. I think you will see them both have no more than 2 races then be retired. Pity because if the handicapper was realistic they copuld win something like the Whitbread but not off 170.
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No problem cashless,KG and GC more than paid for any future upsets.[;)]
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Idk about that, Longrun defo is the one to take over the mantle over the coming years, he is that good. If kauto, denman or imperial fail to deliver this year then it will be all Longrun. He is gonna be a great horse.
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Weapon's Amnesty in the Gold Cup if back to the way he was before
Captain Chris may do him at Kempton Don't think Long Run is all he's cracked up to me, may have to learn the hard way though ![]() |
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If you can get Sam Waley-Cohen out of the Pimms tent?[;)]
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Imperial commander is out for the season btw.
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Sometimes in a quiet moment my mind drifts and I see a wet feb and march, then I see Pandorama a length up and swinging between the final two fences
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THE MAIN BOYS WERE WELL ON DECLINE AT THE START OF LAST SEASON AND CONTINUED THAT DURING THE YEAR ...TOP DOG CAME ON THE SCENE AND THATS WHAT HE WAS TOP DOG .....NOTHING WAS THERE TO CHALLENGE THAT POSITION CAUS ETHERE WASNT A LOT ABOUT NEXT SEASON IN TERMS OFF CLASS WILL BE VERY BORING
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Brother,its all a mind game!
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FFT how can you say that about a horse so young who has already won a KG and GC,beating the best chasers around?
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Think both pieces of form are suspect.
Only serious challenger at Kempton bled and didn't run his race, Riverside Theatre a doubtful 3 miler although decent at Kempton Gold Cup form questionable at best, given how Denman and Kauto looked to have him cooked at the top of the hill but the old guard tired towards finish, and Long Run just kept on. Look at the rest of the field in behind, they all come back to them as if they ran on at the finish He isn't the second coming imo, but obviously he has to be respected |
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Clock at Kempton didnt lie despite any others not firing.
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Suppose it doesn't but race times are misleading imo, a lot depends on how the races are run.
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Clock at Kempton means sweet FA as you well know....
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I still don't think that LR jumps well enough and I really don't believe that he beat a Denman or Kauto Star at their peaks. They aren't/weren't even 90% the same horses imo.
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Apart from visual evidence it is fairly reliable busvaldo,LR was about 4 secs faster than KS was in his[;)] previous years romp.
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master minded romps the kg[;)]
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