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I cant remember whether Ron Hutchinson was a lightweight or not,Ged will know.
Meacock,I remember him and his persian named horses,the ul-mulks, vakil and kavar then he had another ,slower,if possible,Quebir Ku. I think he owned and trained them.Whenever I think I have had bad luck my thoughts turn to Mr Meacock. Colours were gold star on black? |
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Salmon Spray,Are you getting David Dennis getting mixed up with the old hurdles jockey Dennis Dillon? Dennis Dillon was also a regular at Stamford Bridge dogs.
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I think they were red and yellow. Qalibashi was one of his more successful, won twice in a week at Brighton, including one of the feature races. I remember being at Brighton one day when he had a runner, called Ferdowsi - it came galumphing up the straight, trying its best, but about a furlong behind everything else.
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..at least, those were the colours on Ferdowsi, I think. Though maybe that was a rare one he trained for someone else.
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Amazing to think he actually won races with any of them.
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John Meacock was an estate agent ,he owned and trained them as a hobby.Any one remember Peter Poston?
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The name rings a bell.
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dun...Hutchy could do 7st.10lbs
John Meacock never won more than five races in a season, but made a bigger impact than most trainers, partly because his horses were instantly identifiable by their Persian names, and partly because he was also a soldier and poet. He trained at Ropley, near Alresford in Hampshire, between 1961 and 1970, and had a string of up to 30 horses, most of which he owned himself. None was of great distinction, though he did run the best of them, Vakil-ul-Mulk, in the 1963 Derby. The 100-1 maiden made no show, but became a useful staying handicapperhand·i·cap·per n. Sports & Games 1. One who assigns handicaps. 2. One who predicts the winners in a horserace, especially one who publishes such predictions as a guide for bettors. Noun 1. ..... Click the link for more information. who also won over hurdles. Ian Carnaby, who lived near his stables, says: "Meacock came from a well-to-do family and had served as an army officer stationed in the Gulf. He became an expert on Persian culture, which is why he named his horses after Persian heroes, monuments and historical figures. "He was very eccentric and people regarded him as a joke, though in fact he was quite shrewd at getting one ready, and he used to go for a touch on Bank Holidays." Meacock disappeared from the Turf in 1970.He died in 1999. |
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Thanks TM .
Has anybody mentioned Alan Bond? Was there a Des Cracknell or Dave Cracknell? |
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There was Eddie Cracknell...he was an Aussie who road up North....rode a lot os winners.
Here is a link to a piece by Clement Freud on a trainer that was a ticket to the workhouse.but I still liked to follow him. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sludgeulper/3392191141/ You can enlarge the print with a right clik. |
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thanks Whitmarsh;
Dennis Dillon was another Epsom based hurdles only jockey. His brother Mick was a good friend and a great raconteur; rode a few winners himself and finished up as an actor and stuntman. Both gone now. |
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Mr.E,did Mick Dillon ever work as a stalls handler.
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Yes. Thanks those who have mentioned Dennis Dillon. It was indeed he I was thinking of.
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Did you see that clip of the 1960 Magnet Cup...I think Kenny Glover finished 3rd on Royal Painter. The Fav.Right of Way was ridden by Eddie Hide for Will Elsey...I remember having a bob ew on that at some point...it won at 8/1. |
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This was the link if you're interested..
http://www.yfaonline.com/assetDetails.cfm?film=4210&keyword=york%20races&fromSearchValue=fromKeyword&start=1 |
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several come to mind
D EAST D CULLEN K TEMPLE-NIDD J SIME |
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There was Flapper Yates who rode in the 60's .I think his name was David,but I am not sure.
Was there a John Higgins?He rode Tartar Prince in a memorable finish with Stowaway ridden by John Gorton. J. Gorton was south african .Stowaway was cruising home ,Gorton looking over right shoulder,Higgins making ground over left shoulder.The commentator was having a fit,must have gone in heavy! Sad to say I cannot remember the result. |
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I THINK J.HIGGINS RODE FOR SIR HENRY CECIL IN THE LATE 70S,RODE A HORSE ONE DAY CALLED CONNAUGHT BRIDGE TO WIN A BIG H'CAP AT NEWBURY ON SATURDAY..
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ANYONE REMEMBER RAY STILL WINNING THE EBOR ON BIG HAT.?
AND DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE JUMP JOCKEY SANDY MAY.? |
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It was david Yates. he was champion apprentice in 63 I think. Rode on for a while but never made the big-time.
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whitmarsh,
Yes Mick Dillon was a stalls handler. Also stunt man for Ringo Starr and Bill Oddie. Lovely man, sadly passed on. |
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Flapper Yates rode for Doug Marks I think,Terry Baldwin rode some of the jumpers from the stable and ,I hope I am right,Jack Holt worked for him at the same time.
Terry Baldwin and Jack Holt teamed up at West Wittering. But West Wittering is more famous for its Mars bars. |
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Dambuster I remember it well.I fancied the thing strongly but the tipster in The Sun said it could not win on the prevailing ground.
40/1. |
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Remember Flapper being a Comical looking chap radar aural units....reminiscent of Lance Percival or
Alfred E Neuman.....but a great rider. |
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Thanks TM, i noticed on the jockeys board that may not have been mentioned on here, A.Robson, i think his nickname was "Brig". I was always more interested in the jumpers then 60s-70s especially W.A.Hall "Charlie" he had 70 horses then at Towton near Tadcaster, a lot owned by Clifford Nicholson who owned the Limestone stud. I remember all the jocks he used, Pat Gulwell, Colin Dukes, P.A.Farrell,Paddy Vaughn, Mick Naughton.
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nick adams and steve dawson
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Pat Eddery?
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Yes Yates did look like Lance Percival. With freckles and a foot shorter.
Didn`t Paddy Farrell break his back falling from Border Flight in the 1964 National ? I remember cos I had backed it ( via my dad ). |
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Yes,I backed Border Flight that day.
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Ha now I know why you are so depressed Salmon,you pick the same wretched beasts as I do.
You didn't happen to have a speculative e/w punt on Confront last saturday did you? |
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Morse, Steve Dawson, Dennis Mckay, Nicky Adams, Tyrone Williams, some from 1980s, in 1960s weights would have gone much lower with usual lightweights at bottom of the board, Hood, Eccleston and Jesse are 3 who come to mind- may have been mentioned earlier.
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penny stall 64
won the Solario Stakes in 1963 according to History of Racehorse Training at Epsom. What did penny stall win in 64?? |
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I think he won at Kempton in 1964 at a big price ( 20/1?). He ran in the 64 Derby- my mum backed him although he was a big outsider and well beaten, that's how the name in particular stayed with me.
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Mate of mine from Bradford,Mick Vickers won on Andrew John Redcar,100-1.Became a top rider in Australia later.David Harrelson who
rode for Lord Huntindon was very good.Became weelchair bound after a bad fall.Tim Sprake was also good,but a bad car crash fin.his career. (was not a lightweight). |
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Kempton Gns trial
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Penny Stall that is
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Kempton Guineas Trial was a good race in those days.
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Thanks, Salmon Spray. I remember he was trained by Walter Nightingall and usually ridden by Duncan Keith. He ran in the Eclipse also, but out of his depth in the top races.
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Walter Nightingall,I think he won the same race soon after that with Niksar who went on to win the Guineas.If memory serves me well he was the first horse to complete the double.
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That is right dunlaying, Niksar won the 2000 guineas trial by 6 lengths.
I had a letter last year from Walter's son in law in Australia. They are pleased that so many of us remember WN. The original "always trying". |