1. Whether the number is generated in the machine or a remote computer,it is random. It does not take into account the chips placed for that spin. It doesn't need to because as people keep saying, but some thickos just don't understand,the odds you get paid at are LESS than the real odds of a number/colour coming up. If someone offered you 4/5 for the toss of a coin you will lose in the long run for certain because the real odds are evens.

2. You don't see big winners because the stakes are restricted and your credit/bank has to be built up over many spins. The more you spin,the more likely the poor odds in your favour will get you. I have seen several £2k tickets in the past and a £3.7k one,but i'd be amazed if anyone has collected much more in one session.

Some of the comments on here are laughable really. No wonder the shops are full of ignorant machine addicts. They don't understand the basics and what they are up against.[smiley:crazy]

Unless they release the source code for the roulette software, you will never be 100% sure it is "random" and doesn't have certain functions built into it. For example if a group of numbers come up more than 5 times in a row then make a different number next. Even in real casinos if the person spinning the roulette wheel for hours becomes predictable to within a certain number range then he is replaced; the same thing can happen to a random number generator and there could be functions to prevent it.

-also if your on a casino, your betting on consecutive spins, the fobt's generate a "game" every second or so, there can be many "spins" between yours, therefore any sequence followers are losers before they start.
Uour better off playing odds and evens with your mates.

stjms Joined: 06 Mar 08
Replies: 64 07 Oct 10 16:17 
Unless they release the source code for the roulette software, you will never be 100% sure it is "random" and doesn't have certain functions built into it. For example if a group of numbers come up more than 5 times in a row then make a different number next. Even in real casinos if the person spinning the roulette wheel for hours becomes predictable to within a certain number range then he is replaced; the same thing can happen to a random number generator and there could be functions to prevent it.

I've seen black come up 27 times in a row on a machine. The bookies don't get access to the source code afaik. The games are developed independantly by stand alone companies.

i bet the person who invented these  is worth well over 100 million   imo

perhaps im not a believer

different gravy

grendel Joined: 02 Jul 04
Replies: 1554 07 Oct 10 18:01 
the odds on a chosen colour coming up 27 times in a row starting at a specific point are 273,646,367-1 !!!!
peckham flasher Joined: 07 Feb 08
Replies: 1813 07 Oct 10 18:02 

But the odds of a random generator giving just 3 outcomes is exactly the same every time. It doesn't matter what happened before.

intresting read on trigger numbers

Yes they will take money off of anyone .

Trying to convince forumites that they are not"****" is pointless.Just ask yourselves why casinos make fortunes and their main customers play ROULETTE.There is a house or machine percentage,that's all that is needed.
  Every town would like to have a casino licence and have roulette tables if they were allowed.
  The biggest problem with machine players I have been reliably informed is that if they do get lucky and win one day they can't hold onto it and HAVE TO RETURN to try to win more and end up blowing all the winnings.So the machines don't just rely on the %,they have human greed as well.
  A manager recently told me about a guy that won consistently for nearly 2 weeks then in a few days lost it all,nothing to show for his early success.
  With racing or sports betting you can form an opinion on whether the prices are too high or too low and bet accordingly,on casino games they are always right for the house.
   Some thought6/1 Workforce was way too high and backed it,their opinion.
   With the machine games opinions are worthless.

Work it out 35/1 paid for 36 numbers 2.7% itys like backing heads ot tails at 20/21 all day you will lose.

Casinos etc just need people to play the board for as long as possible.

smillo     07 Oct 10 18:26 
I work in a bookies and the other day a guy put a chip on every number except one twice.Guess the outcome.Dont think this proves anything apart from dont play them.

That punter sounds very clever, can I lay him private?

mginvest Joined: 19 Feb 02
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grendel Joined: 02 Jul 04
Replies: 1554 07 Oct 10 18:01 
the odds on a chosen colour coming up 27 times in a row starting at a specific point are 273,646,367-1 !!!!
peckham flasher Joined: 07 Feb 08
Replies: 1813 07 Oct 10 18:02 

But the odds of a random generator giving just 3 outcomes is exactly the same every time. It doesn't matter what happened before.


don't quite get your point

if you stood playing a machine and said to yourself, right, i'm gonna stay here til black comes up 27 times in a row then you'd on average be there waiting for 267 years giving 2 spins per minute, not disbelieving you, just pointing out how rare that occurrence would be

ive seen someone with £4945 balance and did collect winnings shortly after, how much im not sure, but i have also seen him  put £1000 + in and lost the lot on a number of times, think id rather stick £1000 on a evens fav if had that type of money.