1st Political Leaders TV Debate Week Fred

Morning.

That dog Dr.Hart runs again today :p (3.40 Exeter) He probably has a leading chance in the race. Mixture of non-stayers/horses out of form in there imo and the extra yardage from last time where he just got up should suit. I wont be backing him of course, after the epsiode last time.

no rain up here for a while and conditions condusive to drying out so I wouldn't anticipate it to be a test.

Muchos.

I've a fancy at Ponte but I am worried re the drying ground. Any update greatly appreciated..
Apologies re yesterday folks.

No problemo, can't win them all innit.

Looks like I picked a good day to be out, CFT! Cheers for the mail though.

True but dont like giving away my own let alone someone elses!

how will they bet.
4 mile over Liverpool Fences.

3 runners

Are you talking about the debates cubone, or have you posted on the wrong thread?!

N Clegg 1/2
D Cameron 11/8
G Brown 2/1

PP are:

Camerpn evs
Clegg 2/1
Brown 5/2


Based on ICM poll result (assuming there is one.)

*Cameron

4.30 Yarmouth - Alcalde = ungenuine mince, ditto Bugaku, Raptor up in the weights in a better race, Hollow Green = well handicapped good Doncaster form = sound bet at 11/2. Am I missing something?

Quito and I drew similar conclusions off air, bidders.

I have Raptor 2nd in though fwiw.

Yep that is fair enough I think.

P Evans yard in form? I find his yrd very difficult to read...

3 winners and 10 places from 37 runners last fortnight. Not hot or cold imo.

Methinks bidders has been STUNG by Alcalde in the past. HG should be fav though - if Bugaku was trained by anyone other than the Bajan knight, you wouldn't be interested in backing the vole at 20s.

Lang Shining 10/1. Presumably his backers were encouraged by a furlong defeat in the Lincoln.

Could be Zoey's punters? She rates the form of the Lincolnshire.

I may back Calzaghe later. That last run needs looking at!

Alcalde is just one of many Johnston horses that I can never get right.

I had Any Given Moment down as a worthwhile project off marks in the 50's over staying trips so I shall be going in again for Bath and Kempton losses.

Yes Bidders I agree the Simcock horse is interesting..

I have only gone and looked at the stix card. :_|


Backed the CJ Down switcher in the opener and his runner in the 2nd for a handful of beans.

Check your emails lads - I'm trying again !

I'll forward around again.

Maybe cc me to save time if you like cgull..

Will do next time!

Nearly. Didnt get a chance to see it but almost glad I didnt!

Everything I have backed has placed today. Should tell me something really!

Amazing how Harrison George looks like the Breeders Cup Mile winner when you don't want him to.

Always thought Bugaku would make up into a nice 8yo.

:^0

Bugakau had winning first time up last year as the only thing going for him today as far as I could see.

Harrison did look rather good. Quite a strong looking beast aswell in the winners enclosure after.

Walter Swinburn in good form and put punters onto a couple of his winners on GetOn earlier.

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Oldjoesaid, Candy to Ryan 3.10B
Scarboro Warning, Given to O'Reilly (sorry mahy's cat) 4.55B
Brother Cha, Quinlan to Cumani 8.35K
Cape D'Or, Hannon to Hassett
Colonel Mak, Brown to Barron

Others

Abraham Lincoln
Parisian Pyramid
Coordinated Cut
Black Snowflake

Moaning.

It looks quite compettive at HQ today imo.

I agree imo. I have so far had one bean on the Godolphin 2nd string in the 3.00. Liked Hughie's 4.10 runner last term. All a bit tricky though really.

Yup. Also, reading the info Jamesp posted (ante-post section) on the 4.10 , it is a bit of a mixed bag statistically. Horses can win with penalties in the race, right down to horses coming from maidens (provided they are trained by messrs Stoute,Cecil,Gosden). I was looking at Queens Grace aswell and Hafawa, but dont think you can rule many of them out. 5/1 the field currently on here.

G'day,
Looks an interesting day and as i'm sure will be said on RUK one for the video tape (or Sky+)..
Heard positives for the Meehan horse in the first, Haggas too but maybe not 2day, Nosedas in the latter maiden whilst Timepiece and Safina are meant to have wintered well. Usual come on for run chat though so I dont think I will be dipping my toe in too deeply, if at all. One of my 2yr olds to follow was Longliner who i see has been well supported already in the ££ race.

Of the switcherers I thought Colonel Mak looked interesting. The Barron has what looks a live wun at Kempton tomorrow I thought...

Bosun Breeze?

Brakes will be off at some stage for sure, CFT.

Aye well spotted. To be fair must have had its problems but a lot of money spent on him. I think tomorrow will be D Day..though I dont like trying to second guess that mob!!

Did it for the paper yesterday - very hard to gauge what price to put it in at. When the dangers are Fromsong and Misaro, you know you have found the right race though.

haha. Exactly!
As you say it is an impossible one to price up. 4-5/1 at a guess..

Fingers crossed today lads - Beverley more than HQ!
Do any of you lads have a video link?
Would be much obliged if someone could maybe email it to me/point me in the right direction..

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Able Master, 3.00N Smart to Gask (not necessarily a + but I know one or two think Gask's is a yard to follow)
Retaliate, Squance to Leech 3.00N
Maze, Smart to Dandy 2.35R
Bagutta Sun, Wohler to Dascombe 3.10R
Cosmic Orbit, KR Burke to "Curtis" 4.20R
Strong Vigilance, PCH to Bell 4.55R (Again, not necessarily a + but switched winnerer y'day)

Others

Sweet Diversion
Maison Dieu

HQ looks tough again today. Thought that perhaps Crticial Moment was a tadge overpriced at 20/1, possible ground excuses lto, but there look to be many with solid chances so have left it.

I thought Serva Jugum was worth a bet today 3.10 Ripon. Trainer not had any winners yet but a couple ran well yesterday and this horse has some good form in the book. 5/1.

No watering at HQ ? Must be getting pretty quick now with that head wind yesterday.

I will do that race again imo, sint. I thought Exit Smiling had a shout.

Fast side of good is ok by me. If trainers don't want to run on it then that's up to them.

Yup indeed.

Equiano ran a close 2nd to Tax Free first time up last season. TF is a serious horse on his day imo especially on quick ground. I suppose Equiano was disappoinging thereafter but 7/2 on here is worht a little win bet iyo ??

If it's in that sort of form I guess. It is another race where I can't rule enough out to be confident. I know he'd ideally want a bigger field and come through late but if Makin can get cover then Barney M will love this ground.

Yep think i'll skip it and stick with one bet today.

oops! :^0

Looks like the right people are backing Bosun Breeze Quito!

Serva did nish,really! Almiqdaad was handled tenderly in the last furlong.

Similar to Dave Cameron then, sint.

Mornings.

Emma's Secrets, 6.25K Miss Rowland to Shaw
Captain Ramius, 8.30K Callghan to Ryan
Blue Jack, 2.40N Muir to Dascombe
Dolphin Rock, 3.40T Mrs Rees to Barron
Time Medicean, 4.45T Channon to Midgley
Brave Boogie, 4.50U H Dunlop to Bosley
To Arms, 6.35U Hawke to Lawney Hill

Others
Kauto The Kid
Ateeb
Burns Night
Oberon Moon

Some very big positives there.

Good luck to Dan this evening at Cheltenham.

morning all

looking forward to the 8pm race tonight. if trachonitis & incendo get involved in a 'scrap' inside the last furlong, they could both trade 1.02 before ending up a dead heat!

It doesn't get much better than Dolphin Rock imo.

Anyone read the racing for change on page 6

the best bit for me is the new larger saddle cloths

Its a good idea to be able to see the numbers i think, but for some tracks to say they arent introducing it because of lack of funds is just ludicrous isnt it.

UNless the saddlecloths are made of gold and diamond encrusted.

Really like Bathwick Bear here but can't back it due to jockey!

Always the way!

Bene Lad looks a horse to keep backing till he gets beat to me here in the next at ayr.

Sure it is a system that will save me money in the long run, dan. Frustrating all the same.

I feel your pain Quito as I had the same dilemma but I consoled myself with the thought that however frustrating it was for me, it must have been even more frustrating to be P Hanagan over the final furlong up against a sack of potatoes on a much better horse.

Can stop backing him now.

Thought Medici Time would go well in the 4.45. Gibbons gets on well with him but just wish I could see some pace in the race. They all look like hold-up horses to me..
Any of you lads spot the pace?

Incomparable goes forward I guess..

Simple Rhythm. Cutting Comments was pretty sharp 1st or 2nd time up as I recall too?

Simple Rhythm's trainer changed vet since last year?

Ok thanks. Might throw a few bob at him.
Looks a trappy sort of day.

Hard to say, Toe. Back to 5f today though, we'll see.

Not sniffed a winner since October, having had the summer from heaven. Slightly surprising, particularly if you a cynical observer.

Aye, fair point. The good one didn't run especially well at HQ either.

Bit harsh surely!
Many of his horses are just badly handicapped. Always struck me as a bit clueless unlike his old man.

Maybe. M Bin Shafiya wasn't so clever in Dubai this winter though.

Quick question please folks..Is it n/r no bet in the Spring Cup tomorrow - bit worried re the ground for 1..

Yeah, because it's "day of race" markets now and not Auntie Psst.

Ta very much.

That pole went in 3 yards nearly at Ayr

racing must be under threat

Let's hope this is LIVE MONEY. Come on Makin.

Looks like green for go for the switcher.

Two pints of Boshingtons.

If only it was always that easy.

Gutted. Had it written down as one to keep an eye on today and been busy!
I backed the one yesterday which about sums up my luck!
Hope KF ok...(?)

couple of very nice switcher winners there cgull! 10/1 select committee seems fair, given the way the winner just won the 4.15

What's the Midgley MO at Thirsk iyos? The switcher and Culhane?

i wasn't sure about 5f for the switcher. thought the fav drifting was maybe more due to people knowing he'll be slow away & rousted along early rather than anything sinister? makes the race more interesting though!

WD CFT.

well done there cft

Thanks lads. GG very good jockey imo. Him and Makin different basis.
Couple of other whispers - Phoenix Flight 8pmK and Table Forty Six in 8.25D (what a name!).
I'm off for a few cold ones - cant keep up with it all :) Fingers crossed for a good showing from the top weight tomorrow.

you have to be extremely bored, p****d or of your head, to anwser,CDULL, Maxwell Hawke, has had a wind op, tunge tie 1st time and well handicapted, 5.50 Thirisk.

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Cheers for that d.d.

It beat the ambulance home, at least.

'lengthy email from Paul Smith' Lydia sayed,

I wonder if that was the Paul Smith wot we knows :0

Not me guv'nor.