Forums
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
Them
11 Apr 10 11:35
Joined:
Date Joined: 31 Jul 01
| Topic/replies: 74 | Blogger: Them's blog
This one is a standout for me today in the 2m5f handicap hurdle at Market Rasen. Generally available at 12-1 ep. Summary of reasoning:

1. decent novice hurdle form in Ireland two years ago trained by Mouse Morris; he actually competed in the Supreme Novices' although disappointed there. His current mark is at least 10lbs below that novice form.

2. both chase and hurdles form declined last year despite the odd bit of encouragement - moved to Sue Smith and appeared to show immediate improvement off today's mark (113) in a Catterick handicap hurdle (0-130) in January , looking like the winner until making a bad mistake at the second last and eventually finishing third. That is winning form in the context of this race (0-115) if replicated under the different conditions and even without the prospect of further improvement.

3. three runs in handicap hurdles since then - first when bogged down at Uttoxeter, the second when a staying on third over a probably too short trip (2m) at Huntingdon off 114 and then another disappointing effort in deteriorating ground over 2m again at Newcastle

4. now had a three week break but still not been with Sue Smith long, and she's exactly the sort of trainer to coax improvement/revivial. Longer term I would expect her to have him as a chaser.

5. the four runs this year have been under Tjade Collier and Shane Byrne (5) - with the greatest respect to those I think that Giles Hawkins and his 5lb is better value

6. suprisingly little good ground form in the book, and what there is is actually quite promising: 6th in the Aon Hurdle at Punchestown in 2008; falling at the last when winning in a beginners' chase at Gowran later in the year and then mixed messages from a couple of beginners' chases on good last year - one decent run, one poorish (although trying to make all at a decent pace)

7. Other than the obvious dangers (Key Time and River Logic) it's really not a great race.

The main reservation is the trip: although appearing to need more than 2m, TGAO has on a couple of indications that 2m4f+ might be pushing his limits. That's presumably why the price is so big. I will clutch at the following straws: performance in the Aon Hurdle, the ground and the fact that the course is pretty sharp. (River Logic, for example, seems to stay further at MR than on other courses)
Pause Switch to Standard View The Gloves Are Off - Market Rasen 3.30
Show More
Loading...
Report kazex April 11, 2010 11:43 AM BST
into 10/1 now on bet365
Report maurice lester April 11, 2010 3:35 PM BST
Excellent post
Report Mully April 11, 2010 3:36 PM BST
Proper thread ;-)
Report green onions April 11, 2010 3:36 PM BST
well done
Report PMac April 11, 2010 3:36 PM BST
well played sir
Report redal2 April 11, 2010 3:37 PM BST
Excellent work, WD
Report GEOFFDECHEF April 11, 2010 3:37 PM BST
what more can you say....brilliant tipping
Report 11kv April 11, 2010 3:37 PM BST
very good Them , pity didnt see this earlier well done fella
Report Capt__F April 11, 2010 3:38 PM BST
deffo a tryer
well done
Report jollie ollie April 11, 2010 3:38 PM BST
Them , hats off to you , wd
Report freddiewilliams April 11, 2010 3:38 PM BST
very well done
Report maurice lester April 11, 2010 3:39 PM BST
Funny how there is only one reply before the race, a proper post even it would have lost. If only the forum was used for racing.............
Report coffeedodger April 11, 2010 3:40 PM BST
WD. Mine got done 1.01. I never trade out. :(
Report Marvelboy April 11, 2010 3:40 PM BST
well done , I got beaten then, cant believe it traded @ 1.01....
Report coffeedodger April 11, 2010 3:41 PM BST
TBH if he'd have posted this half an hour before the race, it wouldn't have been lost amongst the dross posted all afternoon.
Report maurice lester April 11, 2010 3:45 PM BST
Agreed, just shows how much dross is posted on here though.
Report TiptheOdds April 11, 2010 3:48 PM BST
WD m8. Good write up and spot on. Keep it up.
Report jbarnes (no not him) April 11, 2010 3:50 PM BST
great call

to the others moaning about the lack of decent threads get contributing!

well done
Report Cream Of The Crop April 11, 2010 3:56 PM BST
Top class stuff, well done. :)
Report BJG April 11, 2010 3:56 PM BST
Excellent write up, vwd B-)
Report big -Al April 11, 2010 3:59 PM BST
them knew ;)
Report Them April 11, 2010 4:20 PM BST
Thanks all. Celebrating a very nice win.
Report kazex April 11, 2010 7:28 PM BST
well done...i was on!
Post Your Reply
<CTRL+Enter> to submit
Please login to post a reply.

Wonder

Instance ID: 13539
www.betfair.com