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the istabraq years
11 Apr 10 10:56
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I know people have been going on about the bookies up there on the forum and it is tiring BUT im a bookmaker and just went up on the friday for a jolly but it was the worst case of a p iss take ive seen in all my years racing....just mugging off the once a year punter to the extreme.

the case id like to mention is the irish mare and Fav in the mares bumper on friday....everyone was 15-8 and even 7-4 just before the off, i decided to back her on the phone and asked what price is was ( baring in mind this is a nationwide board price ) and it was 11-4, now i can understand them maybe going 5-2 but 7-4 on a 11-4 at the off is a f ***** disgrace and something should be done to stop them fleecing the average joe.
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Report daniels mother April 11, 2010 10:59 AM BST
where on the track where you ? we were still 11/4 at the off
Report the istabraq years April 11, 2010 11:00 AM BST
Paddock side, near the winners enclosure.
Report GANT007 April 11, 2010 11:00 AM BST
Bookmaking is based on fleecing the average Joe.
Report robinlace1 April 11, 2010 11:02 AM BST
The sp returns are becoming a joke. who is in charge of this? who would you complain to?
Report wasnot April 11, 2010 11:04 AM BST
I'm sure you must be mistaken m8 or not in the main betting ring. I've just checked my computer & my last show was 11/4 with overround of 117%.
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:04 AM BST
i suggest complaining to the european court of human rights in strasbourg .
Report wasnot April 11, 2010 11:05 AM BST
Paddock side is not in the ring. Not representative at all.
Report daniels mother April 11, 2010 11:05 AM BST
hi wassie,istrabaq in these new special areas they bet to bigger percentages,if you go into tatts it is very very competitive
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:05 AM BST
hiya wassy , anywhere today or are you down the s&m club .
Report wasnot April 11, 2010 11:06 AM BST
Drink & drugs for me
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:07 AM BST
should have realised wassy you dont flirt with us commoners at raspberry or sunny .
Report wasnot April 11, 2010 11:09 AM BST
Hoping at some point today my ears will stop ringing with the shrill screech of a scouse "ladies" accent. Did you see the 'Aintree Ladies Day in Pictures' on the Telegraph website? Very harsh but fair imo.
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:10 AM BST
must admit im worried as im on a right medley of medication after my leg op believe it or not i have to take 29 tablets a day .
Report the istabraq years April 11, 2010 11:13 AM BST
Oppenimear was the bookmaker im referring too, reading the forum his name has popped up elsewhere, he was 7-4 on an 11-4 shot, weather he is in the ring or one of the bookmakers by the paddock he is an on course bookmaker and shouldnt even have a license, in fact he should do time for daylight robbery.
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:14 AM BST
liverpool girls are the best in the world for company , i once had a liason with a lovely sweet shy demure english rose of a girl from liverpool on holiday in benidorm , she was a prison warder and when we retired to my room for**tails i asked her if she wanted a nightcap , she said " no just get your k*** out .real passion killer that one.
Report big aitch April 11, 2010 11:18 AM BST
what did she do to your knee?
Report jimnast April 11, 2010 11:18 AM BST
gus oppenhien at it all week,not displaying place terms paying out different to what was on the ticket,did it with my daughter thursday,then tried to blame the clerk.why we as racecourse bookmakers put up with **e like him i dont know.
Report djx1969. April 11, 2010 11:21 AM BST
Grand national yesterday was a total fleece by bookmakers, Dont push it trading around 16,s before the off on here, all the horses shortening on course yet well over double the price on bf and they wonder why they aint filling there satchels
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:22 AM BST
biggy that was twenty years and six stone ago .
Report Paulie Gualtieri April 11, 2010 11:22 AM BST
name and shame the thieving b@stards
Report Paulie Gualtieri April 11, 2010 11:24 AM BST
^ didnt read the whole thread sorry.

anyways....there should be a sticky made on these forums about on-course dirk turpins

name and shame them at every opportunity
Report DONEITHERE April 11, 2010 11:31 AM BST
agreed paulie and also name and shame those layers on here who with fast picture advantage fleece the unwary by laying horse that have already fallen or been beaten , they are real dick turpins dont you agree .
Report Paulie Gualtieri April 11, 2010 11:38 AM BST
not arsed what anyone does on here to be honest

"come racing" - biggest joke going, come and get your pants pulled down by on-course books!

was at ascot last year and had a nosey round the thieves...watching them taking a bet of some mug then watching some shifty n0nce looking character bashing away the back button on the machine

have some balls or fack orf home.
Report jimnast April 11, 2010 11:41 AM BST
wrong paulie there are many very good decent and fair books out there,just use your eyes rather than your ears.
Report Paulie Gualtieri April 11, 2010 11:42 AM BST
you may be a good egg but your outnumbered im afarid.
Report wasnot April 11, 2010 12:03 PM BST
not arsed what anyone does on here to be honest


Paulie - so everyone on here is a shining light & everyone on course is a Dick Turpin? Dont let the truth get in the way of a good ole bit of bookie bashing eh?

I'm very concerned about what people do one here, especially when they make consistent profits from laying horses who run below form from the same old stables.
Report Paulie Gualtieri April 11, 2010 12:07 PM BST
cant beat a bit of bookies bashing ;)
Report lukehart April 11, 2010 1:29 PM BST
Paulie If you think DIRK was a robber you should have seen his great grand father DICK now he was worse then the 1980- Aways..

cubone
Report onlooker April 11, 2010 1:32 PM BST
Was it with OPPENHEIMER ? .... see the other thread.
Report onlooker April 11, 2010 1:36 PM BST
here it is .... looks like the answer
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Oppenheimer the bookmaker at Aintree, tut, tut

charwell. 10 Apr 18:18
This chancer (IMHO) had his bookies pitch outside the parade ring on Friday and I was disgusted at the prices he was giving which were WAY below other bookies odds on each and every runner,

The race I scrutinised Eg Offshore Account 9/2 (7 or 8's elsewhere) plus all the other runners in the race were about 30% lower than the other bookies eg State of Play 11's etc (sorry can't remember the whole field but trust me he was significantly shorter on each and every runner). I think he was making complete mugs out of the punters who know no better and it is outrageous.
Report THETRUTHHURTS April 11, 2010 1:39 PM BST
istabraq..KEEP TAKING THE TABLETS
Report wasnot April 11, 2010 2:13 PM BST
This chancer (IMHO) had his pub outside the main shopping street on Friday and I was disgusted at the prices he was giving which were WAY above supermarket prices on each and every drink brand

The tariff I scrutinised was about 30% higher than the supermarkets. I think he was making complete mug out of the drunks who know no better and it is outrageous.


Where's the difference? We can all shop around if we want. We can choose not to bet, bet with a different bookie or use our phones. Some people choose convenience or atmosphere over raw value - its up to the individual. I'd rather drink in a pub knowing I'm paying more for my beer than I need to because I enjoy the atmosphere & interacting with other human beings. Sitting in your underwear betting on here all day is like buying cheap lager from the supermarket & drinking it at home alone. Not for me but if others choose to that's their option.
Report Mr. Memory April 11, 2010 2:25 PM BST
If you think that the prices on the "Gus Oppenheim" board were rough, you never saw the prices that the old man used to bet to at Hazel Grove dog track in the 1950s.
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