IBN HIYYAN.........3.45 S

handicap good thing innit

yeah right

GOOD THING ON BREEDING BUT TIMES SUGGEST HES NO GOOD THING DESPITE THE RACE NOT BEING THE BEST

very very short but what have you got to beat it?

Terrible price but i cant find 1 in the race to beat it

No bet race for me

info...........you dont back odds ons .....do you??

I do but will try and get evens in running on this won.

think you might get 999\1

OK, I'll lay it to win a monkey.

gl Cardiff ;)

I follow you gl luck in race

win or lose.........its not a odds on shot

I blame the RP chappie wot done the forecast innit.

You would be a very brave man to lay it odds against imo.

cheers........you dont have to??

Get stuck in then!

Cardiff, are you using the RP topspeeds? On the website it appears they have not given the horse a rating for his last run. Looking at the going allowance and the time above standard they would normally give the horse a rating of around 60 for that. I wonder if they have just forgotten to give him a rating?

if thats the case i wont be laying it

cheers stevie..............looked at the william hill website........no rating

Best Top Speed in the RP is 42, this is in line with Lawrence Taylor who also gives a poor figure of 37
I layed Ibn Hiyyan this morning.

If estimate of 60 is correct, still leaves it only third best

If you want to work out what the topspeed is cardiff, you would multiply the going allowance they gave it on that day 0.2sf by the distance 12. add that to the time above standard (2.35) and then multiply by 10( i think they use for 12f). add on the weight below 10st and then subtract this total from 120. then I think they add on the wfa allowance.

From memory I that is pretty much what he does when calculating his ratings but I'm not 100% sure so don't let that put you off laying it.

steve i think youre right i now have had my back matched so my lay has gone

So you now have it down as a winner cardiff!!
Extraodinary - you price it as a "above evens" chance, lay it at 1.7ish and then back it back at 1.6ish...
You wont get rich doing that me old pal

confused.com innit

Got 2.02 just now :D

The Easterby horse looks well fancied but this is surely a free trade waiting to happen !

At least Cardiff is sitting pretty!
I thought it was a good thing but I have kept out in light of the TE supported beast. Good luck info

blinka me e/w punt gl

personally i think it'll win but am worried by the drift.

bollin andrew looks the one to beat, now stepped up in trip in a poor contest with plenty of improvement, may be a lazy type, and tactical speed may be an issue, but looks to ave found a nice opening
Cheers

Has to be a lay as comes out of a weak maiden and is poorly drawn. Weak opposition a concern.

It was a weak maiden,

apart from the winner and second !

Well done info - stuck to your guns. My arris went