'I don't think we've ever had a horse as quick'

Hah he might very well be but It’s been so long since he ran, need to watch a playback!

Delashay • March 16, 2026 4:16 PM GMT
'I don't think we've ever had a horse as quick' declares Aidan O'Brien on his 2,000 Guineas number one hope
Twice-raced colt Albert Einstein is 'unbelievably exciting' according to his trainer

The biggest certainty EVER! To. hear this every year!

The New One was a name that they missed out on, but could have called any of their new speedballs just that!

We were thinking the same!

I don’t recall a Guineas field like this without a short priced fav, before this gamble it was 8/1 behind Bow Echo

Did he not say something similar about Caravaggio, the horse with a delicate toe? That horse missed a few appointments too, I believe.

Air Force Blue 4/5 fav in the 2000 Guineas, 12th of 13, "pushed along over 2f out"
Was he pushed along by the jockey?

There have been a few "greatest evers".

The one with a delicate toe!

Air Force Blue reminded me of Joeys social media post of him holding a Nike Air Horse shoe for Air force Blue, because he was sooo fast!

Delashay • March 17, 2026 9:27 AM GMT
FOYLESWAR • March 16, 2026 5:02 PM GMT
yeah the hype machine in full swing but on the bright side albert e will make the market for others still too early for me to form an opinion but will keep an eye on the markets.

Yes I was going to put a thread up saying how rare it is not to have a clear favourite, just before the hype, it was 8/1 the field.

So own up who’s backing old Albert to get from A to B without disappearing into a wormhole?!

Sign in own up if you’ve backed “Brains”!

Was gonna have some 10’s but missed it because of Aidens headline!

ive had a few quid on hidden force  ew , not beaten much in 2 softish races but did it well and unbeaten ,on ratings has at least a stone to find but is  unexposed and is following a similar path to notable speech who won the  same kempton race then won the guineas later in the season ,as said plenty to find but its a pattern the yard know well . room for plenty of improvement and  could be anything 25/1 with the firms and when asked if the horse would get further he said he has plenty of speed and id be happy to stick to a mile for now .

when buiek was asked^^^^

"All the main horses, everything has gone well for them. From the Guineas horses the number one at the moment is Albert, he's done very well physically. He's big and powerful and very rapid.

"We won't know if he's going to get the mile until we do it. The stride people, the heart people, the pedigree people, everyone says that he will get a mile, he's a very quick thinker.


"He's rapid to do anything, he's quick to leave the stalls and very quick into his stride. We're not going know and we're not going to search to find out because we don't want to wake him up too much

From the description of AOB about the horse it's pushing it to get a mile. I thought AOB is a top class trainer.

The 2000 Guineas thread

FOYLESWAR • March 20, 2026 12:05 PM GMT
ive had a few quid on hidden force  ew , not beaten much in 2 softish races but did it well and unbeaten ,on ratings has at least a stone to find but is  unexposed and is following a similar path to notable speech who won the  same kempton race

Interesting selection Foyles, they knew that they had the beating of the second Venetian Prince through their Dewhurst runner Distant Storm.

I’ve my eye on a couple and hope that another Godolphin recruit might throw their hat into the ring, you also know I wrote about Publish before the gamble.
I’m waiting to see entries for the trials, I’m not totally convinced with the head carriage for Publish but he’s in the right hands and was beaten by the right horse in Bow Echo.

There’s enough in the formlines through Andab to Albert to warrant taking him on, that and never having raced over further than 6f.

Andab 5 runs 1 win 1 2nd 1 3rd

2/7 btn 2½L Rayif 9-1

6/10 btn 3¼L Zavateri 9-6   

4/20 btn 3¾L Gstaad 9-3

3/6  btn 1½ Albert Einstein

(Finished behind Do or Do Not twice amongst those races above so gives the form some look of being creditable)

there must be big doubts about albert staying aiden saying he is so quick ,commonwealth cup may be a better bet before the gns if any of the firms are betting on it this far out .

Did they not compare one of their good ones to Frankel? I thought that was wishing thinking. Frankel is a freak.

Is Bow Echo out?

put a pound win on it on bet356  if they wont let you cash it out its a nonner if they  offer cashout its still a goer

They pushed it out to 7’s inline with others, (dont have an account with them Foyles but thanks for the tip ;)

its what i delash just a pound and fingers crossed they still offer the cashout if not you are goosed

He’s @ 10 now was 11 matched @ 13

Goosed for an Alan!

no i mean the pound is the tester i usually back them on here ante post  or billhills   but if there are any scares or drifts on here i put a pound on just to see if my bet is alive or sunk.b365 know much earlier than any punters.

Cheers Foiled

Anyone remember this going into Ascot?

I’m wondering where the fiddle is here for the 2000 for certain connections…

Aidan O'Brien-trained Coventry favourite Albert Einstein ruled out of Royal Ascot
Reporter Catherine Macrae
Published on 2 June 2025inRoyal Ascot
Last updated 21:16, 2 June 2025

Coventry Stakes favourite Albert Einstein will miss Royal Ascot after Coolmore announced he has suffered a setback.
The Wootton Bassett colt was as short as 6-4 with bookmakers for the Group 2 contest but will now have three weeks of reduced work after spraining a joint in the build-up to the royal meeting.

From the same Article

O'Brien's best hope now looks to be Charles Darwin, who was last seen making all to win the same 5f contest won by River Tiber in 2023 prior to his Coventry success.

So how did Gassd end up there?

'Very, Very Fast' Albert Einstein To Miss Royal Ascot With Sprained Joint

Monday, June 2, 2025 at 8:54 am

Albert Einstein, who Aidan O'Brien labelled 'a very, very fast horse' after his G3 Marble Hill Stakes success at the Curragh, will miss Royal Ascot due to a sprained joint.

The unbeaten colt headed the G2 Coventry Stakes betting at odds of 6-4 prior to Monday's announcement on X by Coolmore Stud.

“Gr.3 Marble Hill Stakes winner Albert Einstein unfortunately will not run at Royal Ascot due to a sprained joint. He will have an easy three weeks,” the quote, which was attributed to O'Brien, read.

Connections of Albert Einstein thought long and hard about allotting such a lofty name. Following that Marble Hill Stakes triumph, where the son of Wootton Bassett showed a smart turn of foot to overhaul Power Blue, O'Brien revealed that the colt's name had been changed on multiple occasions to match the opinion in which he was held at home at Ballydoyle.

He said, “Every time we named him I think Sue [Magnier] maybe thought the name wasn't good enough for him. I wasn't even sure what his name was because it was changed so many times. I'm delighted for the lads and he's very exciting.”

Who was who in all this re naming?

very very fast , breeders  and pedigree people say he will get the mile , gotta be a big doubt imo,  also got war front in the pedigree some of those dont improve much 2nd season iirc.

Hey Foyles I’m wary to write him off but at the same time also don’t trust this lot when there’s a narrative been laid down as has been done so here.

From the above we can see that Albert was to be replaced by Darwin in the Coventry, yet another runner from the stable (a third string?) Gstaad was able to conveniently slot in and take the race.
The well named (if we’re going on the theme of famous people) Charles Darwin was able to drop back to the minimum trip and take the Norfolk.

What’s all this tell us?

For me it says that they have an abundance of talent and quick horses!

They are telling us that Albert is the number one but why not Charles? Both colts have been given important names from the past.
Racing is about pedigrees etc and we all know about Darwin’s theory of natural selection.

I see that he’s entered for the Irish 2000

After last year and the stories and apparently botched handling of The Lion In Winter being the numero uno but running over the wrong trips I’m waiting for more than talk!

I know that many don’t like these stories but I believe that it’s important to refresh our memories on what actually happened way back then during last summer.

Within the talk there are snippets of truth amongst the misleading stories that are woven to add an element of confusion to us who are outside the click.

Aidan O'Brien warns big guns Lake Victoria and Albert Einstein might not run again this season
Royal Ascot winner and Nunthorpe favourite Charles Darwin has also suffered a setback
Published on 19 July 2025inIreland


Aidan O'Brien has revealed two of his biggest guns could miss the remainder of the season, with Irish 1,000 Guineas winner Lake Victoria and the massively hyped Albert Einstein both suffering setbacks.
Albert Einstein was talked about in glowing terms by O'Brien after Gstaad's victory in the Coventry Stakes at Royal Ascot, with the Ballydoyle trainer unequivocal as to which horse he felt was the best juvenile in the yard.

The son of Wootton Bassett has been the ante-post favourite for next year's 2,000 Guineas and Derby ever since. He has won both starts but has not been seen since landing the Group 3 Marble Hill Stakes at the Curragh in May and it is looking unlikely that he will race again in 2025.

“It’s similar with Albert Einstein so we’ll see with him, but he’ll obviously be staying around for next year.”

O'Brien also threw into doubt the immediate future of another top juvenile when revealing that Charles Darwin has also suffered a setback. The Norfolk Stakes winner is 5-2 favourite for the Nunthorpe on August 22, but O'Brien said: "He's had a little setback as well. We had to ease off of him last week.
"He's a big horse and with those horses once they've had two or three runs they're educated for next year then. If they come back and run again fine, but if they don't it's not a problem."

Anyone else find that last line interesting? And/Or find it strange that both had setbacks?

We can see that Albert set back or no setback had done enough for the year it’s going to be interesting to see where all these and Gstaad end up, PRico etc too.

not writing him off but i wouldnt be backing anything under 10/1  ante post at this point , he wmay well win the guineas but he is too short atm and likely to get shorter given the hype ,i will prob back a few at big prices and hopefully.

Agree with you and hope it bombs out too!

In the SL they did a preview of horses to follow, did you see? They mentioned Apps Kings Trail but no mention of your fancy.
That (KT) seems very weak however.

The entries especially for the Craven are going to be very interesting, to where and how he separates all 4 of his entries.

Notable Speech ran again in April before the Guineas, I’d hope that Hidden Force misses the Craven personally and that Talk Of New York (being fit and an April foal) also goes for that to soften the others up. (Just watched the races on tube)

Why would I like to see the craven skipped?

For me it’s not a positive going into the Guineas, the best performances tend to be from horses having their first run there that year, something potentially gets left behind in the Craven.
It’s just my recollection over the years, I’ve seen plenty of impressive Craven winners (last years winner Field of Gold a prime example) and it’s always paid to stand your ground and go against them.

Since 2004

Only Haafhd
And Masar 2028

Have done the double.

Master of The Seas went close to winning the Guineas in ‘21 when second to Poetic Flare.

Interestingly both Masar and Master of the Seas were well beaten at long odds on in prep races held in Dubai.

Talk of New York (an April foal) was beaten @ 4/9 in the Jumeirah 2000 recently.

If history repeats he’ll be in the Craven with Hidden Impact the joker in the wings and a switch from Buick.

The only twist is where Morris Dancer goes?

* The only twist is where Morris Dancer goes?

*The only twist is where Morris Dancer (another April foal) and Kings Trail go?

Apologies for posting and not having the original fully written!

theres another interesting unbeaten  godolphin possible ,not 100/% sure where he will go, also in the irish gns but worth monitoring and a price .

The Varian colt another April one, the race that it won has worked out well Foyles it’s double carpet for our race.

Sorry May foal, very late, Greenham perhaps?

I saw they talked about the Dante for Kings Trail, more stoutly bred.

Cheers for reminding me about that one Foyles

yes thats the one ^^^^

Aidan O'Brien reveals 2,000 Guineas favourite Albert Einstein could make earlier than expected comeback this weekend


"The Gladness is there and Albert obviously hasn't run. He's not like the typical one of ours to go into the Guineas first time out because he only had a couple of runs at the very start of last year and it's a long time since he last ran.
"So we were just debating whether we should give him a run before the Guineas. And then if we were going to do that, where would that be? We thought our only two options would be the Curragh or Leopardstown."


"It's all a little bit up in the air but there is a possibility that he could go to the Curragh on Saturday, and the reason is it's such a long time since he ran. It might just be more important to get a run into him on a day at the races with the stalls and everything."

I don’t believe a word of it being , “ up in the air…”

What he said contrasts to what he said last year posted above :

"He's a big horse and with those horses once they've had two or three runs they're educated for next year then. If they come back and run again fine, but if they don't it's not a problem."

That was regarding Charles Darwin but covered what Albert had done.

where he would possibly be joined by one of his stablemates Gstaad or Puerto Rico.

So he won’t be the only runner from the stable, I think everyone expects PRico to head to France.

Last year he showed us that he’s willing to run more than one horse over the wrong trip (Lion In Winter & Delacroix), you’ve been reminded and warned!

So comb over will run the Genius

The Top Ten Einstein Quotations: The Wit and Wisdom of Albert Einstein

You never truly understand something until you can explain it to your grandmother.

We all know that light travels faster than sound. That's why certain people appear bright until we hear them speak.

Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity (and I'm not sure about the former).

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.

An intellectual solves a problem. A genius avoids it.

The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once.

The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all comprehensible.

The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax.

Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.

Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love!

Brilliant

The 2,000 Guineas favourite Albert Einstein returns in the Listed Gladness Stakes (3.05)

What quote will AOB come up with next time? He looks and runs like Frankel?

Even with their bad record in the race (3 yr olds) that was terrible!

I’ve said on here that I didn’t trust what was happening or being said. All that switcheroo last year before the Coventry the swapping of runners twice for that race was iffy AS!

I’d shown the form not to match the talk too.

Delashay • March 21, 2026 9:35 AM GMT

There’s enough in the formlines through Andab to Albert to warrant taking him on, that and never having raced over further than 6f.

Andab 5 runs 1 win 1 2nd 1 3rd

2/7 btn 2½L Rayif 9-1

6/10 btn 3¼L Zavateri 9-6   

4/20 btn 3¾L Gstaad 9-3

3/6  btn 1½ Albert Einstein

(Finished behind Do or Do Not twice amongst those races above so gives the form some look of being creditable)

Reflecting on Albert Einstein's disappointing display in the Gladness, O'Brien said: "I think he’s a sprinter and that was a little bit of the reason he was here. It was a very tough call to run him in that ground against older, hardier horses. Obviously we just have to do the right thing by the horse…”

That obviously wasn’t the case was it when the hype machine, smoke screen was created!

Your nose is growing Mr!

Reflecting on Albert Einstein's disappointing display in the Gladness, O'Brien said: "I think he’s a sprinter and that was a little bit of the reason he was here. It was a very tough call to run him in that ground against older, hardier horses. Obviously we just have to do the right thing by the horse.

"He’s always found it very hard to go slow. Some horses find it very hard to go quick but he finds it very hard to go slow. Usually that kind of horse needs a very strong tempo early. The lads will decide but my initial thought is that he’ll be coming back and he’ll go sprinting."

He added: "It’s a very difficult thing to run against those horses in that bad ground. If you have an older, strong horse, they can maul a three-year-old. He was travelling very strong and in that ground you’d have preferred that he would be travelling a gear or two lower.

"He’s naturally just not able to do that. His tempo is so quick, he is a very high-tempo horse. It was in the back of my mind that this is a big sprinter."

When asked if he could work back from the Commonwealth Cup, O'Brien said: "Yes, that's very possible now. Obviously we’ll go and talk to the lads and see what they want to do, but there is a very good chance that’s the route he’s going to go.

"He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see.

O'Brien had spent most of the last year waxing lyrical about the powerful son of Wootton Basset, hailing his speed as "frightening". He remains convinced the colt is special.

"He's a horse who has always excited us and I'd say he still will," the trainer said. "I know what this horse is able to do. He's so big and when Ryan sat up on him he could not believe the width of him. He's 560kg going down into that ground. He's a lot bigger than the horses he was racing against who are probably 460kg or 470kg. This guy is a monster and being that big in heavy ground is very difficult for him.

"I was happy with the way he behaved. He didn't do anything wrong, only that he was travelling a gear or two high, and then when he got tired he didn't fall in a hole, he kept plugging away. That will do his character the world of good. He got tired and he had to keep going."

He added: "I have it in my head that he will go back in trip but it will depend on what the lads want to do. I think that's what will be happening, but nothing is set in stone. We'll get tomorrow over us with the other horses and see then.

"Our option was to play it safe, let him come up here tomorrow, get a little bit tired and finish in the middle of them and then we'd go on to the Guineas and see what would happen.

"When you go back and think of the Stravinskys and the Mozarts and all them, I saw what they would do over seven furlongs. We're learning on the job."
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Thanks John - do you believe a word?

For me it gets even more interesting if you read on, the slips in the story!


"He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see.

This horse today AE was originally meant to be with those tomorrow!!

I’ll give an opinion that’s to be laughed at, but Charles Darwin IS and was always their numero uno.

When he lists him as a sprinter it’s another sleight of hand!

It won at Navan over 6f on its second start

These are the race comments :

Made all, going easily halfway, shaken up and quickened over 1f out, ran on well inside final furlong, impressive

It’s an undulating track and I expect a comeback before the SJPS @ Ascot.

We can’t get a bean in between now and then, that’s because they are all working together!

"He's always found it very hard to go slow. Some horses find it very hard to go quick but he finds it very hard to go slow."

Nevertheless, AOB tries to "engineer" him into a miler. That's a bizarre from a top trainer.

Watch that maiden back and tell me that he’s NOT THE ONE no,Ed for a reason!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cGgdR447JI

The horse is special

Gstaad and Albert Einstein accidently scratched from the 2000 Guineas by Ballydoyle.

A computer glitch instigated an unintentional scratching of both AE and Gstaad. But, they will be supplemented before the race, if necessary. AE could still be supplemented for The 2000G. Really?

What if he is and Moore isn’t on him?

What if Moore is on him?

The Derby showed not to trust their smoke and mirrors, you’re with them or looking elsewhere.

It's all relative. If you're AOB you've a vested interest, and close emotional ties. If you're not AE is just another of their many equine with a pedigree to match.

AE will never be a horse for me in The 2000G.

Why everyone being so critical.

This is the fastest horse he’s ever trained.

Not the best.

He’s just being honest.

His soundbites are getting progressively tedious and nauseating each season. What next? This horse could challenge Frankel.

thats their problem, they hupe these horses to be better than d brave, frankel etc, and theyve never been close to get a horse near their greatness

Here have a watch see of this

https://www.facebook.com/racingtv/videos/will-albert-einstein-last-the-distance-in-the-2000-guineas-aidan-obrien-makes-fo/1267932664927483/

Sea of blue on Oddschecker this morning

Publish is a non you’ve probably seen now

Ah, and the sad demise of Gewan as well

Yes sadly and the race is cutting up and the market is madness as it is now

Entered in the Greenham

I do not think it will show. The horse is a sprinter. Any price, out of curiosity?

It won’t show Impossible, Moore is booked for the Crisfords horse Title Role who beat the current second Fav in Dubai Talk of New York

Also in the same ownership, the Purple Smith silks

Here you can see them here, TOf NY pulled like a train

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5SUla_MAo

I do not think Albert Einstein would run either, However, Billie's shortened him to 11/4 from 4/1. I do like Zavateri in the same race (Greenham). His price of 9/4 with the same firm is generous, I believe. If he was trained by AOB or Gosden his price would be nearer 11/8 or 6/4.

The former Coolmore No 1 Derby hope The Lion In Winter has just won a Listed race at Leopardstown today after a fruitless campaigne last season. His sp was a "generous" 11/10. No fanfare prior - dead low key.

Delashay • April 13, 2026 5:14 PM BST
It won’t show Impossible, Moore is booked for the Crisfords horse Title Role who beat the current second Fav in Dubai Talk of New York

Well that was wrong! Been declared the sneak jumped ship and they’ve hooded him first time!

It could be easy money laying AE. I think hooding him could make him more explosive and run like a whippet.

Is there any easy money?

a couple of weeks till the gns and after the dust has settled with the trials the picture hasnt really cleared and no real impact on the front of the market . ive had a few quid ew on samargan progressive last year in france 3 from4  winning a group2 and group3 at 6f and running on 2nd to afandy in the djebel at 7f midweek that was a prep and shaped as though a mile could suit imo. 25/1 ew  now looks fair to me.