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As expected Keeps the ride on Inspiral, with Emily Upjohn thrown in for good measure, perhaps, after the Eclipse, it's a case of better the devil you know.
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would guess input from the owners
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I think Gosden and Dettori need each other professionally. Is there any one better riding the Gosden's charges? An overwhelming no!
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A walk-in-the-park on friday in the Falmouth Stakes.
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It looks that way.
Thinking of backing Prosperous Voyage in the without Mkt. That Ascot run was too bad to be true.I'm sure she's better than that. |
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I hoped you backed Prosperous Voyage at 16/1. She won on merit after past by Inspiral.
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She did that well,no I never backed her.
With Teneberism winning today that's 3 different horses to come out of the 1000G and win GP1s. |
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Given what Inspiral is prone to and her handlers not on top of her predicament I'd back Homeless Songs on softish going any where and any day; Tenebrism deserves to win in France however, I'd not back her over 8f. The Jean Prat proves the French fillies are carp this year.
I hope to see Homeless Songs, Inspiral and Prosperous Voyage in the Matron Stakes on 10th Sept. |
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AOB's chickened out with Tuesday. A walk-in-the-park for Emily Upjohn in the Irish Oaks or will the Gosdens achieve a "double whammy" and do another Inspiral?
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Chickened out !!!!!?????
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Tuesday will probably get a drubbing from Emily Upjohn, if turning up. I think Emily Upjohn will give Westover a run in the King George, if she misses the Irish Oaks for whatever reason.
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AOB must have been cursing like mad - he withdrew Tuesday at the final dec - given Emily Upjohn is unable to make The Curragh due to transport issue afterall.
I hope Magical Lagoon wins for Mrs Harrington. |
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Inspiral is ducking Homeless Songs in the Matron Stakes. The former is heading for the Jacques le Marois instead. I hope Inspiral and Homeless Songs will meet at the Champions meeting in Newmarket in October.
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She's ducking nothing,she'll be taking on the colts
in France. |
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What distinguished colts? Baaeed? I'd have thought the Matron Stakes against her main adversary ie Homeless Songs. Allowance plays a major part, I guess.
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Coroebus and Native Trail are still in the Jacques le Marois - although Appleby was talking about 10f again for the latter
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Inspiral, Coroebus and Native Trail still in this morning plus State of Rest - Tenebrism taken out
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Native Trail taken out
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Do Inspiral fans think she's a good bet tomorrow?
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not a fan at 2/1 2 i like at decent prices are the unbeaten erevan at 25s b365 bog lightly raced and won a group 3 last time a good bit to find but unexposed and who knows how good he is at the price worth an each way pop imo.also order of australia looks too big at 25s not a lot to find on the ratings and said to be unsuited by track last time capable of a big run.
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Do Inspiral fans think she's a good bet tomorrow?
Not me - IMO she ran very fast times at Ascot which took it's toll if the Falmouth was anything to go by. I'm surprised they are running her again relatively soon - I'd have waited longer. |
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I read in the Post that she bounced because of the Ragozin bounce theory, but what the writer failed to grasp was that Ragozin was specifically talking about fast time performances (speed figures), not collateral form ratings as he puts forward. At Ascot Inspiral didn't put up a faster performance than she had as a 2yo. I actually have her running 3lbs slower, when, given that it was a very well run race, you'd expect a filly that had fully trained on to run a few pounds faster. Even Topspeed has her doing nothing better than she had as a 2yo.
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whether it was overall faster than her 2yo performances is not really relevant. The issue is did she have a hard race after a very long time off the course and I think she did. She might be done for the year. Cue her bolting up today!
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I can't see what was hard about that race, but no doubt we'll hear it as an excuse again if she's beaten today.
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Figgis I know where this is going you're of the opinion the Falmouth Stakes is as good as she gets aren't you?
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A_T, I know her best form is a bit better than Prosperous Voyage has ever shown so she obviously didn't show her best at Newmarket. I can't say I was totally surprised as, even though most people seemed to think she put up an astonishing performance at Ascot, it bothered me that, considering how the race was run and she wasn't exactly winning on the bridle, she couldn't even match her best 2yo figure. There's no doubt in my mind the race fell apart around her. The annoying thing is that the Falmouth cut up and even though I laid her it was for peanuts, whereas I was hoping to take a strong stance against her. Look, she's still only had two runs this season and a mere six runs her entire career. Form doesn't stand still and it's entirely possible she could take another leap forward. I just believe that on what she's achieved so far the Ascot win made her look better than she really is.
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The same Post article says that only a length covered the SJP first five so it's poor Gp1 form. It's true that given a strongly run Gp1 to see a blanket finish nearly always means poor form for the grade. However, this wasn't strongly run. The fact that they finished so close was a consequence of the pace of the race and not necessarily a negative about the winner. Many people thought that Maljoom should've won but I don't agree. For me, Coroebus wasn't able to put more distance between himself and the rest because the lack of pace allowed the others to comfortably keep in touch.
Of course I could be wrong, and when making an excuse for a horse on the way a race was run, even a valid excuse, there's always the possibility that the horse has just regressed and wouldn't have fared any better no matter the pace. There's also the minor setback to take into account. All that considered, I still think Coroebus is a standout in this company, an odds on chance, so I've backed him. |
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I'll wait to see what they look like when parading, but if Inspiral is fav or jt fav I'm inclining towards a lay. Her topseed ratings are nothing special for a horse in an all aged (males & females) Group 1. Agree with Figgis that Coroebus could be really good based on his 2000 Gns win. The Guineas was built up as above average before hand and the right horses filled the places.
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Inspiral looked a bit on edge, laid her.
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Looked bad for me as soon as Coroebus was slowly away.
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Hands up, she beat all the colts today and did it well enough. Can't knock that. Coroebus ran a shocker but I was quite confident about him beforehand so no excuse for my poor selection. Well done any Inspiral backers, just surprised there weren't more posters in support for her on here.
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We let you do all the talking.
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Good win from Inspiral - think she had a bit in hand. The setback that led to Coroebus missing Goodwoid can't have helped but he looks to me like the kind of Guineas winner who hasn't progressed and may even have regressed.
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a few negatives for her at the price she did it well thought i had a chance near finish not too be happy with some place money back.
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TMB aftertimer par excellence, no sign of him after the Falmouth
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You can see on the Coronation thread what I thought of her.
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Yes, as I said, always there after the event
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Take a look at the 1000g thread if you want to go back further. Well done for putting one up anyway,very unlike you
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Don't tell me you missed my Derby bet? Shame, as you said you were going to lay it and I was rather hoping it was your cash I pocketed
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Your favourite horse running next week. Nice juicy bet on Native Trail is it?
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