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Unless I am mistaken the safety limit is currently 20 runners. This being the case I would venture to suggest the Betfair market is currently verging on overbroke with 158 horses contributing to the over round percentage. Close to 140 horses will be eliminated and I anticipate many current prices available to contract somewhat.
Unfortunately Ballydoyle currently have an army of possible entries and I for one don`t wish to try and pick their best chances until their plans are clarified. However, it seems seems certain, barring accidents, that English King, Kameko and Military March will participate and these can be backed preferentially and stiil leave room for O`Brien`s runners. I am assuming he doesn`t run Peaceful or Love.
Obviously there can be a shock result but I am prepared to run that risk.
Unfortunately Ballydoyle currently have an army of possible entries and I for one don`t wish to try and pick their best chances until their plans are clarified. However, it seems seems certain, barring accidents, that English King, Kameko and Military March will participate and these can be backed preferentially and stiil leave room for O`Brien`s runners. I am assuming he doesn`t run Peaceful or Love.
Obviously there can be a shock result but I am prepared to run that risk.
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backed Highest Ground for this today @25s.
Could be wrong but does'nt seem to be a standout colt atm.Looking for a big run today and for him to line up at Epsom. GL ALL |
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wd penzance, looks like the extra distance will suit as well. Personally I'm a Kameko fan, but will he get the trip?
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Well done,penzance...now for the hard part...convincing the trainer to run him at Epsom...some encouragement that he took the chance with Ulysses,same lightly raced profile and maybe,crucially same owners...they'll be further encouraged by Alpine Star's win on Saturday
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French derbi?
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Miltary March 32s to back on here,
is he a runner? Blank with some books on oddschecker. |
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military march n/r.
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Reminiscent of St Nicholas Abbey which over a few days before the Derby drifted from 7/4 favourite to 20/1 before the stable announced it a non runner. The Gambling Commission got involved and some scapegoat stable staff got their knuckles wrapped.
The same applies to Military March over the last few days drifted from 6-1 out 14-1 in dribs and drabs as those in the know were drip feeding lay money into Betfair. The Gambling Commission should get involved in my opinion. |
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What a poor Derby this is going to be. Kameko at 5/1 on here looks an unbelievable price. If it stays 1m 2f it will win never mind having to stay the extra 2f. I'm going in.
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Highest Gnd N/R unlucky penzance. I've taken the 5s Kameko, with the field cutting up Balding will surely go for it.
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If Kameko was trained by Gosden and trainer expressed his lack of enthusiasm for the race I'd abstain from backing him. But, at 5/1 after winning 2000G it would be prudent to dip a toe in (against English King) and Co. I just hope he turns up next saturday.
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is there any chance godolphin might bring victor ludorum over for this.
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Any other trainer apart from Fabre possibly. The Jockey Club has been his target even prior to his Fontainbleau run and 2000G triumph; 1m 2f is different to 1m 4f, asks connections of Roaring Lion.
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Bangkok was only 9/1 and he never ran a yard .
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I still remember that race,...but he did not win a 2000G; he best two slow boats in Telecaster and Technician. I believe his trainer said Epsom did not suit after. Let's hope Kameko can atone.
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hope you do,m8,it was only last year.
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small boost in the irish version for english king through berkshire rocco.And would it really shock you with this lot that santiago might well be in next weeks race as well
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obrien today, " any of saturdays runnerers could be entered tomorrow for the derby"
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With a maximum of 20 runners he trying to STOP
Ingish runners playing DISGRACEFULL  |
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agree, a horrible lot but doesnt matter how many runners he puts up, if kameko stays he wins
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Almost zero chance Santiago turning up after two consecutive hard Gp 1 races over days. The Leger is his for the taking, I believe, if he does not do an Idaho.
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Entries for the Derby are to be made on Monday, 29 June and the runners will be revealed shortly after 10am on Thursday, 2 June.
Shortly after = 3 days later. So people at the BHA will know 3 days in advance who is not running while the punters are still betting on them? I'll wait until Saturday, thanks. |
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I would run Santiago. Guaranteed to stay and thought he showed a bit of pace on Saturday. Looks a hardy horse and don't see him turning out again much of a problem. Would give the race a much needed boost too.
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no happy, tomorrow is 6 day decleration, which well know about dinner time whats added or taken out , then on wednesday or thursday depends if its 2 or 3 days final entries well know the actual runners
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Is it a 3 day dec or back to 2 days now? It was 3 day dec when racing resumed. No info from The Exchange either.
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im sure itll be wednesday
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Entries wll be known Monday,runners
on Thursday. |
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A 2-day dec then if confirmed runners on thursday. A bit of precipitation is expected from tuesday onward and most on the day of the race.
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Thanks for that useful info elisjohn,
I read my first sentence somewhere and the “shortly after” just tickled me. It doesn’t need a lot of sauce on my sandwich to put a smile on my face. Let’s just hope Aiden sends a couple over to give English King a bit of ‘resistance’. |
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Betfair's rules...
All bets will be void in the event that horses from jurisdictions outside of the UK, deemed to make a material difference to the market, are prevented from entering this race. Is there a realistic chance of that being applied? Or in the Oaks? |
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It didn`t in the Guineas.
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pete, no chance whatsover
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the only scenario that would happen is, if irish horses were banned from coming over this weekdue to the covid , then the oaks would be voided coz of love,
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I think it costs £10,000 to enter on monday, it would then be crazy to withdraw on thursday, surely you would know if your horse is good enough to have a reasonable chance, or maybe put in as spoilers. cheers.
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rain about this week, surely not the best news for the fav english king imo, cant see him winning at all and reckon that 3.75 is a super lay , will surely be nearer 4/1 , 9/2 at the off, camelot wasnt a soft ground horse , and zafonic was simply a miler
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according to horse racing forum, 21 left in, 14 from coolmore
 , inc santigo and the 2nd from saturday, and i didnt put a tenner on santigo after the irish at 100s or more on here, when i suspected he might be included |
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latest news from horse racing forum, now 17 left in derby, but no santiago or tiger moth, santiago was around 16 to lay on here about an hour ago,
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the last horse i can remember winning the lingfield derby trial stakes on route to success in the derby was high rise in 1998
high rise carrying 8.7 won that trial in 224.80 (1.00) fast english king carrying 9.0 won in 224.36 (1.44) fast |
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Thanks. That's what I thought, but it's always nice to be reassured.
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why pete, have you got a nice ante post bet going on the derby or oaks ?
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