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Hibore
03 Jun 20 21:29
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One of my favourite races of the year. Most horses are double price at the moment so plenty of value if your pin hits the right horse.
I was impressed with Frankly Darling on Monday and had a modest bet at 33/1 and 16/1. Pricewise has put up Peaceful and Frankly Darling up in his column today.

Any thoughts on the other runners ?

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FOYLESWAR
When: 06 Jun 20 21:55
yes hibore i have backed shimmering from the same yard as yours ,runs in tommorows guineas with frankie up, bred for further than 1m and i have taken the 50s each way interesting shes pitched into the deep end tommorow and on form she has a lot to find think tommorows mile will be too short but will have a svaver each way tommorow just in case . good luck.
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FOYLESWAR
When: 11 Jun 20 20:28
shimmering bet down the khazi ! have followed you in on frankly darling ,missed the 33s and 16s but think the 12s each way is still worth a pop ,obviously love will be hard to beat but anything can happen the newcastle win was impressive and she should come on a bundle for that ,obviously needs to improve but should  have  frankie onboard and that counts for plenty. distance should suit and trainer has won it 3 times so knows whats needed . also  had an each way double with mogul for the derby 12s and 8s  good luck.
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 12 Jun 20 19:29
Quadrilateral drifting like a barge.
By:
elisjohn
When: 13 Jun 20 11:57
frankly darling 7/4 fav runs on tuesday, ribblesdale
By:
Try My Best
When: 13 Jun 20 19:26
Fillies looking better than the colts imo and the Oaks looks like it's going to be belter
By:
elisjohn
When: 13 Jun 20 20:00
im not so sure, look on  so wonderful today close up and still a maidenWink, love won well and is probably the best filly   out there and she was 3/6 last year.
just thinking before last week, pinatubo would have started 1/5 to beat love and peaceful
By:
Try My Best
When: 13 Jun 20 20:06
Fair comment
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 16 Jun 20 14:37
Frankly darling impresses

Wink
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 16 Jun 20 14:44
very smooth win that was .
By:
Cauthenmeister
When: 16 Jun 20 15:15
No mention of Gosden's Franconia on here yet. I liked her win on Saturday and would think it will be a tough choice for Frankie.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jun 20 15:40
On a line with Cabaletta Frankly Darling has a bit to find with Franconia. I do not think AOB will lose much sleep either given the run of Ennistymon.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 16 Jun 20 15:47
you think frankly darling didnt have anything up her sleeve impossible?
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 16 Jun 20 15:48
or do you think enis was a bit unlucky?
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jun 20 16:38
Frankly Darling won despite pulling early on. If held up longer and then sprinted away to win her race I'd be impressed. I'm not sure how good the horses she beat were. Then again I said the same about Enable when she out ran Rhododendron in the Oaks. I hope I'm not wrong this time.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 16 Jun 20 17:47
looked impressive to me but as you say may not have beat a lot ,still she is open to a lot more improvement .
By:
Hibore
When: 16 Jun 20 21:09
I’ve watched the race a few times now. FD is obviously very highly strung which accounts for the hood she wears to the start. The first part of the race could not have been run any worse....without any meaningful pace which caused FD to pull as hard as any horse in the race for nearly 3 furlongs. At this point I thought it wasn’t to be and that she would struggle to get home. The fact she had the raw ability to quicken clear 2 out and put the race to bed is testament to her class.

Epsom is the next stop. The track should suit her better with a 4 furlong climb which should allow her to drop the bit and get into a similar rhythm to Newcastle and with any amount of improvement still to come I’m sure O’Brien ISN’T thinking Love is a shoe in.
By:
Cauthenmeister
When: 17 Jun 20 11:58
Quadrilateral now running over a mile on Saturday with Charlton saying the Diane looks far more suitable than Epsom if and when she steps up in trip. That suggests to me that Franconia will be heading to Epsom.
By:
Hibore
When: 17 Jun 20 14:55
Franconia going for French Oaks I thought ?
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 17 Jun 20 15:20
yeah me too.
By:
Cauthenmeister
When: 17 Jun 20 15:23
I was just going from the Charlton interview this morning, and hoping the owner wants an Epsom runner.
By:
impossible123
When: 17 Jun 20 15:27
I think the Epsom Oaks could be a step too far for Quadrilateral at the moment steeping up from 8f to 12f. Also, the minor predicament with Love and Frankly Darling in opposition (probably); French Oaks would be an astute choice.
By:
Millerracing67
When: 25 Jun 20 19:31
Would be very interested in Raabihah if she were to come over for our Oaks??
Think she could be very smart, had a small poke at 36.0 for The Arc.
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jun 20 21:41
A 2-horse race between Love (unproven on trip) and Frankly Darling (proven). Another Rhododendron vs Enable; fav vs 2nd fav. Same result?
By:
Paterson92
When: 26 Jun 20 11:14
Having backed Frankly Darling I certainly hope that’s the case impossible123 but I do fear Love is a bit special - O’Brien seems confident going by recent comments. I also hope Frankly Darling settles a bit better to give her every chance on the day.

Will be interesting to see the SP’s of the market leaders.
By:
impossible123
When: 28 Jun 20 14:50
Frankly Darling is on the drift; matched at 4.3 from 3.75. Is something amiss with her? I hope not.
By:
impossible123
When: 28 Jun 20 15:53
Market manipulation it turns out.
By:
elisjohn
When: 29 Jun 20 11:02
9  left in, 7 from coolmoreCryCryCryCryCryCry
By:
elisjohn
When: 29 Jun 20 15:34
11 left in sorryWhoops
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 02 Jul 20 17:08
Just the 8 entries
Looks like the Shergar cup
There are 3 teams

AIDEN
GOSDEN and
VARIAN

Whose gonna blink first?

Laugh
By:
Paterson92
When: 02 Jul 20 22:02
Assuming all 8 stand their ground, Ennistymon each way at 7’s with 365 is a cracking bet.

She’s as short as 9/2 with PP/BF.
By:
Paterson92
When: 02 Jul 20 22:08
365 are also Best Odds Guaranteed for the race at the moment.
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 03 Jul 20 18:04
Hoping the ground is "good" and Love proves a special filly.
By:
impossible123
When: 03 Jul 20 18:48
A likely AOB 1-2, I think.
By:
Figgis
When: 03 Jul 20 21:09
Despite some of the subsequent poor displays from some of the Guineas runners I still have it as an up to scratch winning performance from Love, and if she can run even close to that over the longer trip it'll take an exceptional performance to beat her. As to her staying or not, I wouldn't be truly confident either way. A bigger doubt I have about her is whether she will go on on from the Guineas. For some horses the Guineas is the culmination of what they achieved as a 2yo, and they don't do much after reaching that peak. For others it's a platform for them to have a great 3yo season. At this stage I'm more inclined to view Love in the former camp and so have no interest in her at a short price.

Frankly Darling was fairly impressive to the eye at Ascot, but I rate her a few pounds below an average Oaks winner. Possibly she can improve again, or if Love runs below par and nothing else steps up she may not need to, but I couldn't back her at this kind of price. The rest need to improve even more than her. Most of them look pretty exposed apart from Gold Wand. I was quite taken with her on debut where she ran very promisingly in defeat. I couldn't say she proved she had built on that on her reappearance at Newbury, but the race was very slowly run so it was difficult to show much more than she did. Again I was impressed with how she travelled and think she could leave that moderate form behind in a faster run race. Whether she is up to this level is total guesswork, but, in a race lacking depth and with doubts about the front two in the market, I'm having a small bet on her.
By:
impossible123
When: 04 Jul 20 15:49
Another Minding perhaps.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 04 Jul 20 15:49
Its all
LOVE

IMPRESSIVE

Grin
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 04 Jul 20 15:49
Special, special filly.
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 04 Jul 20 15:49
Special, special filly.
By:
Howellsy
When: 04 Jul 20 16:40
Group 1 horse in a group 2 race but the time stacks up.
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