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By:
roadrunner46
When: 06 Aug 17 15:56
mistake, meant you made some money, that's all that counts end of the day.
By:
Howellsy
When: 06 Aug 17 21:43
Well done on another good shout Figgis. I presumed he'd be around evens and as I had no strong opinion at that price, I spent a rare afternoon away from the screen only to find out later he had been much shorter on here pre-race. I recall Tabor being interviewed after Winter's Newmarket win, the day after Churchill, and when given a chance to lavish praise upon his trainer, he said rather pointedly 'he gets it right most of the time.' I wonder if they now wish Caravaggio had been retired after the July Cup with 'an injury sustained during the race.' I said somewhere on here, with only slight sarcasm, that Churchill should be retired after the Guineas, and although he won well in Ireland, it might not have been such a bad call. Wonder where we'll see him next.
By:
Figgis
When: 07 Aug 17 09:40
Thanks Howellsy. See Caravaggio or Churchill next?
By:
roadrunner46
When: 07 Aug 17 10:03

Jul 19, 2017 -- 8:38AM, brigust1 wrote:


Excellent piece in the Post today by Julian Muscat. No pace, no cigar for Caravaggio. Suggesting the antics of the Coolmore pace setters in the Eclipse and July Cup compromised their horse's chances and it was no wonder Ryan Moore 'looked shellshocked on Caravaggio on his return to weigh in'.


bigrust you bought into that fake news, lock stock and two smoking barrels

By:
quay_street
When: 07 Aug 17 22:49
Interesting discussion.

From tomorrows RP...

O'Brien, meanwhile, reported Caravaggio "very sore" following his disappointing performance in the Prix Maurice de Gheest at Deauville on Sunday, when the dual Group 1 winner could finish only sixth.

"We think there could be an issue with his shoes and that he's not getting proper traction when he races," said O'Brien. "He was very sore in front this morning.

"Before he ran in the July Cup we put on different shoes with rubber between his feet and the shoes. We'll give him a week to ten days before reviewing the situation and making plans. Hopefully we'll be able to resolve the problem.


Problems being rationalized back to the JC...
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 08 Aug 17 14:43
I've not read the article but surely the pertinent question revolves around why they changed the type of shoes the horse wears before the July Cup after he was so impressive in the Commonwealth Cup? The only reason I can think of is because the horse has some discomfort in his hooves(feet).
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Aug 17 20:56
Well I backed Limato and Caravaggio again while I was away but no luck. I think the ground and the way he was ridden added to Limato's defeat but getting really fast ground again may be a problem.
Caravaggio, on the other hand, annoys me. AOB tells us now that he fitted him with inserts and they clearly never worked. They can have that effect but the early slow pace in this race didn't expose this weakness so I backed him again in France.
One point to note is that AOB said Caravaggio's jockey told him he couldn't get any traction and it was like his wheels were spinning. He said exactly the same after Cliffs of Moher won at Chester. After being difficult to train I wonder if they have tried inserts on him as well? They never tell us anything as usual.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 09 Sep 17 14:32
everyones a believer nowLaugh HARYS ANGEL NUMBER 1 SPRINTERHappy
By:
thegiggilo
When: 09 Sep 17 14:41
Imagine if it had been quicker ground,maybe one of the greats his speedfigure at haydock told you that anyway time will be interesting ground didn't seem to be cutting up as much as I thought....
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