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IrisDeBalme
31 Jan 16 23:12
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Think connections getting carried away with his win in the Betbright.... after Djakadam fell...  there wasn't a horse in that race that you would even consider capable of getting in the top 3 of the Gold Cup... okay he is a Hennessey winner and that merits serious respect... but ...

For whatever reason KG exposed this horse quite a bit and to suggest he is a Gold Cup horse now is real dodgy ? I think there are a handful better than him namely Vautour, Cue Card ... Road To Riches and maybe DJAKADAM... I think connections are losing their marbles... there is a race he can win the RYANAIR - this is a better stepping stone for him... and one where he will cruise it... better to walk away with something than nothing...

Gold Cup is one step too far this season ... for me its RYANAIR
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Report Steamship February 1, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
I disagree Iris, Smad is a better horse this season he has a higher rating than RTR after these past two wins. I'm not saying he will win but he has to go for the GC after that performance yesterday.
Report racingguru February 1, 2016 4:07 AM GMT
Someone seeing their Ryanair voucher not looking so likely now?? Has to be Gold Cup - got to have a fair ew chance if they remain positive with it.
Report IrisDeBalme February 1, 2016 7:38 AM GMT
Actually I backed him for both races... but my point is I feel Ryanair is the right race... I expect to win... if he goes for the Gold Cup - one step too far based on KG running.
Report racingguru February 1, 2016 7:46 AM GMT
KG - Hutchinson was sooooo negative under orders from King - not saying he'd have won the KG but he'd have faired much better if ridden more positively. Its no coincidence his lifetime best RPR's are when ridden positively.
Report dunlaying February 1, 2016 9:42 AM GMT
If he was mine he would go for Gold as a Ryanair means nothing.
He has sound e/w claims and deserves to be in the field.
Report dementia February 1, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
I will be backing Cue Card and Smad nearer the day. To say Vautor when Smad outstayed him is, well i just cant understand the reasoning. Both decent prices and both stay. Both proven on course,Smad the trip, both in form. Will  go EW on both nearer the day. GL all
Report sageform February 1, 2016 3:36 PM GMT
Massive improvement in Hennessy over 3 miles 2 and on Saturday over 3.1 on heavy. Outpaced over 3 miles at Kempton. All the evidence tells me his assets are jumping and stamina. Agree he should be ridden prominently but I don't think he would ever keep up in a Ryanair. He would struggle to keep up with Vautour on the first circuit of the Gold cup if V ran there but might catch him later.
Report jasey February 1, 2016 9:20 PM GMT
He's a grade 2 horse,that will be a pacemaker in the Gold Cup.
Grade 2 three milers can win the Ryanair not the GC,
Report joevalue147 February 1, 2016 11:22 PM GMT
Exactly jasey. Massive place lay in the Gold Cup. Big difference trying to hold off Don Cossack, Don Poli, Djakadam, Vatour, Road to Riches and indeed Cue Card. He'll be swamped turning into the straight when the taps are really turned on. Would look to be a straight forward task for him in the Ryanair. Would grind that opposition into submission but wont do that in a very high quality Gold Cup which it is this year.  Crazy decision really. Can't get my head around it. Ok his has improved being ridden from the front but he hasn't turned into a superstar over night either. I'm a big fan of the horse but none of his wins scream gold cup to me. His win at Kempton earlier on in the season showed he has enough pace to cope with a Ryanair.
Report joevalue147 February 1, 2016 11:24 PM GMT
Also I think Many Clouds threw the towel in when headed again by Smad so the winning distance was exaggerated.
Report dementia February 2, 2016 6:22 AM GMT
LORD WINDERMERE 20/1
SEE MORE BUSINESS 16/1
COOL DAWN 20/1
MR MULLIGAN 20/1
Cool Ground  20/1

They all never stood a chance lol
Report dementia February 2, 2016 6:22 AM GMT
LORD WINDERMERE 20/1
SEE MORE BUSINESS 16/1
COOL DAWN 20/1
MR MULLIGAN 20/1
Cool Ground  20/1

They all never stood a chance lol
Report dementia February 2, 2016 6:22 AM GMT
LORD WINDERMERE 20/1
SEE MORE BUSINESS 16/1
COOL DAWN 20/1
MR MULLIGAN 20/1
Cool Ground  20/1

They all never stood a chance lol
Report jasey February 2, 2016 10:37 AM GMT
Lord was a grade 1 winner before winning GC but the others are from a different era so i would say going back 20 years is a negative.
Report joevalue147 February 2, 2016 11:44 AM GMT
Only two of those horses Mr Mulligan and Cool Dawn bounced out and made all which Smad Place will be trying to do. The fav in Mr Mulligan's race was One Man who as we all know with hindsight did not stay 3m2f around Cheltenham against the top horses. Cool Dawn but up a terrific performance. That cant be argued. I just don't think Smad Place can do a Cool Dawn. That's my opinion.
Report sageform February 5, 2016 9:15 PM GMT
really can't see SP winning anything significant over less than 3 miles. The race he won at Kempton was a non event with Fingal Bay who wants 4 miles in second and the rest were very poor. He has only ever run twice over less than 3 miles over fences and the first time he unseated in his first chase. Even over hurdles he rarely ran over less than 3m. He look a ready made Welsh or Aintree National winner to me.
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