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Just read Fields Of Athenry will be ridden by Donnacha O'Brien. Positive stat considering claimers (3-1-15) have ridden 3 of the last 6 winners of the Ebor. Brings him down to 9 stone 2.
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If CLONDAW WARRIOR doesn't get to run, does he go down as balloted out as far as antepost bets go or do you lose your money?
![]() With this reserve situation, it is an interesting question I for one have never thought about! ![]() |
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Clondaw warrior will be counted as balloted out, so yes you will get your money back.
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Bit of a strange one Charlton declaring the top weight even though it is already declared in the Lonsdale tomorrow. Presuming that there are two chances he will run in both races , why was he left in the Ebor potentially depriving a reserve of a run if he comes out after lunchtime Friday ? If I was being cynical , I would suggest that it may be in the interest of someone to keep out one of the ante post favourites ( Clondaw W ) , in the absence of a logical explanation for this behaviour ( ground maybe ? ) would the Stewards investigate the motivation here ? If there is an ulterior motive for declaring this horse with little chance of it running would this be a further argument for letting in reserves on the day and not just up to lunchtime the previous day ?
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Charlton said: "He is a fast ground horse, so therefore there has to be a doubt about running in this race [Lonsdale Cup].
"If we have a really drying day and there is no rain overnight and it is sunny tomorrow and the jockeys say it is riding much quicker than he will probably run. "If, on the other hand, it is slower and it rains again tonight then he has to be a serious doubt. If he didn't run and there was a prospect of getting faster ground on Saturday I would consider the Ebor but I appreciate the second favourite is now first reserve so to be decent to everybody I would really have to make a decision by nine o'clock tomorrow [Friday] morning." Roger Charlton has booked Daniel Tudhope on QFM in the Ebor with George Baker already booked for rides at Sandown Saturday. The plot thickens? Spent 20 minutes trying to open an account with 10Bet- who are they? through Oddschecker after they advertised 16/1 on Clondaw Warrior NRNB over an hour ago, what a waste of time that was- froze the computer and then they suspended betting. Quacks |
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I owe Roger an apology for having the temerity to suggest possible skullduggery on his part and his rationale is impeccable as is his awareness of the consequences of his actions. The BHA recently extended the timeline for withdrawal from 9.30am to 1pm so as to allow reserves get in so Roger has a bit more time than he thought to make his decision. If the forecast is correct , it is unlikely that the ground will be faster on Saturday as while there are showers forecast both days , they could be thundery in nature on Saturday
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Money back off Battersea for not making the cut. With all the overnight wet stuff about in York, its prob the best result for me, he wants fast ground to be seen at his best.
The Ebor is fast becoming a very difficult race to get into need to be rated 100+ nearly to get a run ![]() |
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One of the two 99s got in this year but the BHA elimination rules in relation to horses on the same weight are strange to say the least discriminating as they do against the horse who has incurred a penalty since the weights were published - the penalty for winning a race after publication of Ebor weights is an automatic 4lbs which in the vast majority of cases will be less than the actual penalty the winner will get for winning a handicap. Yet , in the Grand National , priority will be given to the horse with the highest current rating at the declaration stage where two horses are assigned the same weight at entry stage - where is the consistency in these two scenarios ? And don't even get me started on the patent discrimation a three old suffers trying to get into the Ebor - a 3yo would have to be rated 112 to get into the Ebor this year yet the Ebor is ostensibly open to 3yos a bit like the Ritz is also open to all !
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discrimination
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My not so shortlist
![]() Quick Jack Wicklow Brave Wadi Al Hattawi Nearly Caught Litigant GL all |
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He`s running,Nearly Caught each way.
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Like the look of Litigant at that price.
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Few £££ ew on Quick Jack for me 2moro @ the best odds on offer.
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Irish winner but not the talked about ones.Toe the LIne hold up horse with right man for such J Spencer.last run behind Panama Hat hugely endorsed
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Have decided to back Quick Jack each way as well as the earlier post.
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Benjy and Platini ! Wow ! Very well done .
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Yes well done Platini and Benjy, and PJay.
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Cheers
Slightly annoyed I went with forecasts not exactas Turned into a good week!Great performance from all concerned with the horse. |
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typical, first decent priced winner I've had in ages and I forget to include in the big flat races thread
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well done winners... particularly Benjy - good shortlist
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An amazing winner on the basis of 491 days off, by a sire who had only one other winner this season, and all his recent form on AW but after Arabian Queen and Mecca's Angel, it was great to see smaller trainers and owners getting some of the prizes for a change. I had a poor day yesterday after following William Haggas on days 1 and 2, I managed to choose Raucous instead of Ajaya yesterday and my Ebor bets, Astronereus and Wadi Al Hatawi wre tailed off and pulled up! Well done winners.
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Wadi Al Hattawi won comfortably today after pulling up last week. Denied me the tricast
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