LOCKINGE STAKES

Cheer up sint it's all puffy clouds; they come and they go. But Night of Thunder; he is hard to win with now. I might be wrong.

Following unlucky horses is on a road to nowhere mate.Some are more lucky than others; look at Speculative Bid.

He looked an eachway bet to nothing at 4/1 and above. Doubts about the oppo, could be 2/1 on the day.

I'm talking about Moohaarib and not Night of Thunder!

Fancy Captain Cat @ 25/1 and Aljamaheer @ 20/1.

So says dunlaying the  Destruct backer and Taglietelle pasta maker from the CHESTER CUP forum.

From QIPCO site 2nd April

Alan Cooper, racing manager to Karakontie's owner the Niarchos Family, said:

"Karakontie has wintered well and the Al Shaqab Lockinge Stakes is the race we are looking at.  "We will obviously have to see nearer the time but we feel he is a horse who needs good ground so he may well make his reappearance at Newbury. We have also entered a pacemaker, Maximum Velocity.

"Karakontie won very well at the Breeders' Cup and there was no fluke about his performance in America. After he won the French 2,000 Guineas, we got him ready for the Prix du Jockey Club but he did not appreciate the extra distance and it took him a long time to get over it.

"He was not really sparking and it was not until the second half of September that he really began to flourish again. He got massacred in the Foret but kept improving and in California he was in top form.

"The objective after the Lockinge Stakes will be the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot. Then you have got races like the Sussex Stakes and the Prix Jacques Les Marois - essentially he will be kept to the top mile races."

I think he will peak from June, taking on Able Friend and Solow, to August and rested before Breeder’s Cup, although, the Lockinge is worth £350,000 this year and is recognised as a stallion making race. We will know more tomorrow after the confirmation of entry stage.

sintonian, honest Mr Botti ATR interview-Video Features- ‘thought the ground could be a little too fast for him but he handled it well’ He talks about the family and how it improves for age. He was a very late foal (06May) as well.

RP-Trainer Marco Botti said: "Moohaarib came out of Ascot really well and the plan is to run at Newbury.

"I think all of us were under the impression that he needed a bit of give in the ground because of his knee action. We were a little surprised at Ascot because the ground was very fast that day and all the jockeys that have rode him said he wants a bit of cut.

"You would have to be impressed with the way he won and he is improving all the time. He has got a pedigree that suggests he will get better with time and he is in great order at the moment.

"On his run at Ascot, I would say he will be competitive and, although he needs to step up again, we are looking forward to seeing how he gets on at this level."

^^horrible bit of work.

Seems to get off on shoving it up punters who may have backed certain horses for certain races, another classic here

What is the problem here harrycallaghan?

People/storm troopers gate-crashing a forum and being confrontational.

Backing horses in the ante-post market is all about licking your lips when supposed fancied opponents don’t turn up. Let’s get real, I thought Karakontie  was a false fav based on BCM beating of 4yo Anodin and 6yo Trade Storm; his French Guineas (3rd has improved in Australia as a 4yo) was nothing compared to Night of Thunder’s, and Johnathan Pease’s runners over here do not exactly get you quaking in your boots. As for backing Integral 6/1 and 5/1 ew this morning that’s not exactly shoving it up since she is still 5/1 with PP and Lads.  People on here had already doubted Karakontie’s participation- as for the declaration/foot problem- all hype. Minus Lasix ‘super horse’ will get p issed  on over here.

I agree with Harry here. That's a horrible bit of smugness regardless of whether similar odds are available. The thread has been open for several days for Steve to say he's backed Integral.

Anyway..the forecast this weekend is due to be quite wet so I believe...Looking through the field most of them seem to handle soft conditions.

My mistake all round, I see what you mean.

I apologise harrycallaghan, respectfully.

Stevo1- I had thought harry had gate-crashed and was being harsh on you.

Have to stop socialising in the afternoon before I come on here. Come on boys lets forgive and forget.

As for the mare Integral, she is running for a place, Ryan Moore will get to the front with Custom Cut and they will try to dawdle and quicken up 2 out but Frankie on Yuften will have none of it and make a consistent pace up front. I don’t think Integral’s form in the Falmouth and the Sun Chariot against the classic generation is up to that of Red Evie or Russian Rhythm, the last fillies to win it. Even though she has won two Group 1’s,  I don’t think she is as good as her mother Echelon who only won one, beating Red Evie. She won’t beat Moohaarib, he only has fitness and James Doyle’s riding of Night of Thunder to beat. In my humble opinion.

5/1 was steep and there was £1000 on here at 9/2 and above and there was 5/1 available at the bookies. And with Hannon's history.Hindsight eh.. But is he one of those unlucky horses? 5/2 now on here £280 or 13/8 on the day. Get in there boy!

No I'm Moohaarib and I'm still cuing up for Lads to except my bet on here for another couple of £££'s. But he is the one to beat.

I really like CUSTOM CUT backed him at @16s yesterday

Newbury Racecourse

@NewburyRacing

@Sam_D1234 Hello, as of 4pm today we are Good, Good to Firm in places from Good to Firm, Good in places following 8.5mm of rain.

Met Office- Friday: After a chilly start, Friday will be fine, dry and warmer with sunny spells. Cloud will spread in from the west towards evening, giving some light rain in places later. Maximum Temperature 17C. Outlook for Saturday: A breezy weekend with some patchy rain early Saturday followed by some sunshine.

Doubt it will be soft on that.

Trainer Richard Hannon RP AM 14th May. "In the end we decided against giving Night Of Thunder a racecourse gallop, we worked him at home and he really impressed us." "He should be fit enough to win, although he will improve for the run to a point and we hope that he will keep improving through the season."  "He's a Classic winner - he deserves the utmost respect for that - and he would be right up there with all the star milers that we have had over recent years." "Toormore will also improve for the run. He is less of a flashy worker than Night Of Thunder and though he won first time out last season, that was only a Group 3 so this is a much stronger race." "He came back to form on his final run of last season and if he were to repeat that he would go very close on Saturday. I hope that we have got him back to near his best again now." "If the ground were on the soft side it would suit both of them."

With Custom Cut (2), Integral (9) and Yuften (18) there will be pace all across the track but looking at drawbias.com - results plotting winning stall number against the number of runners for Newbury One Mile Straight - middle to high will be favoured whatever the ground is. So I am very happy with Moohaarib (12). Good luck.

http://www.drawbias.com/courses/Newbury/Newbury8.html

the trouble with this madhu is can the guy training him sort him out and i'm afraid he is hopeless, which is a shame cause the horse just needs taming to progress to the top table

a hopeless task which is proving very expensive tbh

i don't disagree madhu but the trainer is horrible and when a horse is as keen as him i don't think he would drop the bit over 6 never mind a mile...don't listen to me as have done my doe on the creature... but on the off season the trainer has had every chance to make him a proper horse and he hasn't sorted him out so he will continue to be a cliff horse for me which is a shame because i think he is classy but now refuse to part with the money, also he won't want any cut in the ground imo