Ever thought there were bigger prizes in store?

i'm up to my nuts with conti ante post for the king george, i'm going in again with him for the betfair chase, nicholls is the man to get him to peak for the big days - wetherby was just a pipe opener, expect massive improvement !!!!

first time cheekpieces also, just need it to rain and i can see conti going off 2/1 fav

My sense tells me Jonjo and Pipe don't really believe either TDS or Dynaste are natural/true 3m Chasers. When March comes round they have reverted to the shorter races. I think they want them to be 3m Chasers and Gold Cup horses and on flat tracks they may well be able to hold their own but when it comes to a true run 3m Chase against the real 3m Chasers they are not quite top notch. Just my gut feel. Saturday may blow my theory out of the water but if SC and CC give them a wooping I will be a wealthier man…….not a wealthy man but wealthier than I am today and will be putting my winnings on both Dynaste and TDS to win the Ryanair in March. 

That is some strength on Dynaste in the market currently.

took the 14's ew harry topper earlier its going to be bottomless cant have t d s never shown me anything to say he wants 3m

Harry Topper fresh and on heavy ground is as good as it gets for him, this is his gold cup.

Massive TDS fan, he would stay 4 miles imo so the trip isnt really a problem, but his price doesnt represent value given all the variables.

Anyone know the race running of this race ?

which part of the track are they using etc ?

Third Intention today showed the improvement under a proper jockey that Tizzard's can make.

CC got the injury to prove he is over though so I've decided not worth risking for me.

I take it with  your 5/1 quote for Cue Card and 6/1 for Harry Topper that the ground is looking like being heavy?

I thought the ground looked soft yesterday and had more rain since racing.
I was disappointed with Cue Card at Exeter. Harry Topper goes really well fresh obviously I think Silvi will win and it depends if I'm looking for the winner or my perceived value.

Of course staying on. If you look at Taquin's last run again and still think he wasn't staying on then it's back to the bat cave imo. If he is beaten today there will be no excuses on trip or ground.

I can see SC improving on last year with the benefit of the prep run and cheekpieces (won't be spending my money to find out but would consider backing him to make amends in the Gold Cup) but I can't see why the ground conditions are being put up as a reason for him beating Cue Card. It's not as soft as it was last year when Cue card beat him. What's that all about?

cmon TDS

Pulled up.

did not jump a twig, desperate.

Thing is Ibra he has looked desperate on his debut run too.

CC not looking the same horse, must have done something in the King George last year.

I appreciate he won it last year but... Cue Card I'm still not convinced sees out 3 miles. Should be targeting the Ryanair.

A fairly predictable result today, which is pleasing. Menorah ran a cracker as well.

^ inclined to agree, backed Menorah in the end in spite of the ground, partly based on his appearance in the parade ring - he loooked fantastic - so close but no cigar...

Nicholls remains superb at getting his charges to concert pitch on the right days, not watched it back yet but it seemed SC just outstayed Menorah on the ground.I think Menorah now becomes potentially interesting for King George given decent ground though.

Who knows what the ground will be on Boxing Day though.

Benjy,
Last year with a proper jockey CC jumped, travelled, exuded confidence. Now with a different pilot it blunders about like it's blindfolded. Shame the previous pilot hung up his boots a year too soon.