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By:
CVByrne
When: 28 Nov 14 18:48
I'd rather Many Clouds not win as conditions are in his favour, he would have been a much bigger price had he avoided being seagulled and if 7lbs lower. I'd be all over him. But just not now at single figures off 11-6
By:
stevo1
When: 28 Nov 14 20:33
Cv good luck in trying to get 10/1 Smad Place in morning.
By:
alleged22
When: 28 Nov 14 20:47
ive only backed the one unioniste, wish id took the 28,s at the begining of the week, but instead waited and got 20,s after 48 hr decs, I believe the trip is ideal the ground is ideal and being by dom alco wots not to like. Lack of a recent run doesn't bother me he,ll need to be fresh in this ground, the only problem I have is the weight.. if he wins this he,ll have to be considered a gold cup horse, when ideally the GN is the long term aim.... cant see him out the first 4 with the welsh GN next target.
By:
Masterminded
When: 28 Nov 14 22:41
I have added Unioniste and Fingal Bay earlier in the week but I think Djakadam could run away with it like Strong Flow did. He is extremely well handicapped imo and I don't think 11/2 and above is a bad price. He has plenty to prove still in terms of his reputation but he doesn't need to be the nest Denman or a G1 horse to win tomorrow.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 28 Nov 14 22:52
Trying to find negatives re Djakadam.

Ruby chose a different horse at cheltenham, the novice form took a battering from The Paparrazi Kid today.Never won over the trip.

I actually like the horse and i would be a backer at 10/1, just think he has far too many questions to be the fav.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 28 Nov 14 23:03
Very competitive and the winner will need both the run of the race and luck in running. Very disappointed with the WPM runners this side of the water so far this season. I like Smad Place,Rocky Creek and Many Clouds though I'd prefer the last named going right handed.

I've plumped for Rocky Creek and I hope he's hard to keep out of the frame.

GLTYA
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 28 Nov 14 23:07
The problem with Djakadam is that he's only favourite because the Mullins stable rate him highly. But what's that based on? How well he's schooled? How he's strengthened up over the summer? His work on the gallops?

The issue is that none of these give us any indication that he'll stay 27 furlongs under these conditions. He may be working all over Mullins' other 140-150 horses at home, but at the end of the day that gives us no indication of how he'll get on over the extended 3. Trainers will almost never work a horse over much more than 2 miles, so whether he'll stay or not is as much of a mystery to the Mullins yard as to us.


Smad Place and Fingal Bay for me. Both will stay. Both love the ground. Both are on marks they'll eventually outrun. Both stables are confident. Would be surprised if one of them doesn't win.

GL all.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 28 Nov 14 23:32
why anyone would back a horse that has already proved to crap, is beyound me.
By:
stevo1
When: 29 Nov 14 05:54
Sea, you better hope Fav dont win or you have done your -ollox,nice to see you only backed 6 so far you cutting back? Good luck and enjoy should be decent race, fwiw on Smad Place @13 on here and Fav @6/1.
By:
metro john
When: 29 Nov 14 09:55
Have bet Merry king and The Druids Nephew conditions fine for both,Merry king can disappoint?
By:
CVByrne
When: 29 Nov 14 10:41
Added Rocky Creek @ 11/1 and Smad Place @ 7/1.

Going to war with, in order of biggest win to least.

Djakadam
Merry King
Rocky Creek
Smad Place


Good luck all
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 29 Nov 14 12:06
Backed the top three clock horses each way.

Via Sundown,Midnight Prayer and Rocky Creek.

Wide open but hoping for the best.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 29 Nov 14 12:52
gone for Ballynagour 33/1 ew (drift alarming and pleasing in equal measure considering he was generally 20/1 at 5 day dec stage) and Unioniste at 20/1 ew (missed the best price there earlier in the week).

Many plausible winners, good luck all...
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 29 Nov 14 13:05
Smad Place might start fav Shocked
By:
GI MAC
When: 29 Nov 14 13:52
^ he will indeed.

Ballynagour and Via Sundown carry my money today, good luck all.
By:
PJay
When: 29 Nov 14 15:02
Haven't done a lot of work on this but the one I've put my pennies on is Rocky Creek at 13.0. Nicholls in flying form and this one could find the ground more to his liking this year.
By:
PJay
When: 29 Nov 14 15:06
Rocky not at the races!
By:
PJay
When: 29 Nov 14 15:13
Well done winners!
By:
CVByrne
When: 29 Nov 14 15:14
Well that taught me a lesson!!!

Well done winners. Hard to know of Djakadam blew up or didn't stay.
By:
PJay
When: 29 Nov 14 15:19
Many Clouds will be a popular winner.
By:
penzance
When: 29 Nov 14 15:50
wnrs
wd
GL
By:
unclepuncle
When: 29 Nov 14 16:14
Well done Sint and other backers.Cool

I was on him at big prices for the RSA last year and did look at him when the Hennessey was first priced up but I think the best price was 14/1 which didn't tempt me - then he won at Carlile and shortened further so I left him alone.Cry
By:
Facts
When: 29 Nov 14 16:21
Well done IS and Sin for putting up the winner
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 29 Nov 14 16:27
Well done winners.

Sadly i didnt back him even though he was my original choice, put off by the weight rise.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 29 Nov 14 18:45
yep, well done winners did n't back him but pleased for connections
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 29 Nov 14 19:15
CVByrne 29 Nov 14 15:14 Joined: 14 Mar 06 | Topic/replies: 4,111 | Blogger: CVByrne's blog
Well that taught me a lesson!!!



AND ME Cry

Back to being lazy, following the money, pw and bookies offers again!
By:
sintonian
When: 30 Nov 14 11:34
Pleaseing scenes :)

Not a fan of Champagne Fever for the KG because I reckon hus jumpibg is dodge but hed make a nice xmas cracker as he's in an ew double with Many Cliyds

Will never understand Djakadams price. He had more questions to answer than Amanda Knox.
By:
sintonian
When: 30 Nov 14 11:35
Apologies for spelling mistakes..using phone.
By:
stevo1
When: 30 Nov 14 19:38
Well done Sint,good to see horse you follow come up with the goods.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 30 Nov 14 20:05
some random post race thoughts:

1. The first three were a fair way clear of the rest...

2. Monbeg Dude has run two decent races this season and surely will be a factor in the major staying handicap chases to come (Chepstow,Aintree)

3. Thinking about Djakadam and Ballynagour particularly, I wonder if it's a good idea to run a horse untested over a trip in excess of about 2.5m under rules in this race first time out - ground was testing enough (albeit no worse than proper jumping ground), trip in excess of 3.25m and rivals with a fitness edge - it's a lot to ask (I should factor that thought into my punting too).

4. The weights and measures sometimes mean we/I overlook the obvious - Many Clouds went up 7lbs for winning at Carlisle but in return he got more valuable jumping experience and a boost in fitness and confidence - which turned out to be preferable to being apparently better handicapped but less experienced and less race fit, a very good trade by Sherwood to take the 7lb rise (hindsight on my part of course but worth bearing in mind in future).
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Nov 14 20:42
Been busy moving house this weekend and seen no racing but did the runner up/top weight ever go off 50/1 and the fav go off well, so 45 marks lower. It still baffles me.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Nov 14 20:43
*how
By:
shockster
When: 01 Dec 14 08:55
Back at work after a cracking weekend at Newbury.  Highly recommended if you get the chance of going to the Hennessy weekend. Great meeting and good atmosphere in the town. In my earlier post I narrowed it down to 3 including Many Clouds, but sadly for me went "all in" on Smad Place. Well done winners.
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