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By:
sintonian
When: 19 Jun 14 12:48
From Hannon's website.

Hannon said:"I backed Toronado at 10-1 in January to win the Queen Anne, but the money is immaterial. I was just so relieved to see him win. Obviously, I was under a lot of pressure and it was a very important race, but then Toronado is a very, very good colt.
"He would be right up there with all the best milers we have had, but remember Canford Cliffs won six Group 1's, and Toronado has only won two so far."
However, Hughes predicts that there are plenty more to come. He said:"All credit to Richard for getting Toronado ready to win at the top level after a 300-day absence, because there is a fine line between having a horse spot on and overdoing him.
"There was no hiding place out there. The leaders went off at 5f-6f pace, so I had to keep telling myself to ignore them. I have never been so fast up that Ascot straight. He travelled strongly, but when we got there he had to be brave, and I felt him blow up at the furlong-pole, but he dug in there and got the job done.
"Last year he could be fizzy and might not have been tough enough for a scrap like that, but Sean Levey, who rides him every day, has done a brilliant job in getting him switched off, and he was totally relaxed out there. This race will have turned the lights on, and he'll be a better horse next time - he will take some beating in all the top mile races this season."
Hannon suggested that Toronado could well attempt to defend his crown in the Sussex Stakes at Glorious Goodwood next month - he beat Dawn Approach in that race last year - which could well mean a clash with Kingman, who had toppled our own Night of Thunder in yesterday's St James's Palace Stakes.
He added:"Toronado will stay at a mile - when you have a horse who is that good over that distance, why try further ? The Sussex looks the logical route - we have Olympic Glory earmarked for the Jacques le Marois at Deauville - and then there is the QE11 back here, the Breeders Cup Mile and Hong Kong."
Reflecting on Night of Thunder's defeat, Hannon said:"No complaints - we were beaten fair and square. They are two good horses, but Kingman has a better turn of foot than us, though I was encouraged how well our fellow finished his race. Hughesie and I agree that it would be worth trying him at a mile and a quarter, so we might have a look at the Eclipse Stakes at Sandown."
By:
Millerracing67
When: 19 Jun 14 14:38
Who went 10s Shocked Toronado for the Q A. Crazy
But nice of him to tells us all about the bet "after the race" Wink
Toro is a gd miler, but not Kingman level in my opinion.
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Jun 14 16:19
William Hill go 4/7 and 6/4 the match. Kingman all day long for me though would just watch the race or put him into some multiples.
By:
brigust1
When: 03 Jul 14 13:23
Nice win by Toronado but he clearly isn't great shakes.This wasn't a hot renewal but he was the only possible bet to start off RA. Couldn't have him to beat Kingman at Goodwood though.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Jul 14 16:41
There you go again. Knocking every single horse as a matter of course. They are robots afterall and simply CANNOT improve.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Jul 14 16:57
The race never took much winning, as we stated back in May, but that's Toro's first run as a 4yo and first race of season. He is going to improve.
By:
brigust1
When: 03 Jul 14 17:17
Sin it is only my opinion. I did say I thought Kingman would beat him in the Sussex so you cannot have it both ways. You have to understand that horses do improve, they do lose their form and they also can benefit from weak opposition. As possibly the best older miler in training I thought he should have won what looked like a weak Gr1 easier than he did. I also cannot believe RH would have sent him to the races anything other than fully fit. As a miler I cannot see where he can go from here especially if, as I believe, the 3 year olds are better. I could be wrong of course. It happens.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Jul 14 18:10
You have to understand you patronising tool.
By:
brigust1
When: 03 Jul 14 18:19
I may have knocked Toronado but I praised Kingman. You cannot have it both ways. I may believe the current oklder milers are beatable but I also believe the current younger horses look good. You cannot have it both ways.

But I do think I understand you because you are obviously an ignorant kn ob. I either agree with you or I'm a tool. Are you sure you aren't some sort of virus? This is a forum, try looking it up in the dictionary and you might, just might, learn something. I doubt it though because any foul mouthed idiot like you isn't likely to own a dictionary let alone be able to read one. Now why don't you do yourself a favour and go and do one?
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Jul 14 20:52
Guessing, backfitting, hypocritical, contradictory moron. I've said it before (last Champions Weekend to be precise) that as a punter your opinion should not be taken seriously. Even when you are spectacularly wrong, you want to be right. Forums are populated with losers like you Brig.
By:
brigust1
When: 03 Jul 14 21:30
Sint my Dad once told me to 'never argue with an idiot because no matter what you say they will always be an idiot'. So excuse me if I refrain from arguing with you.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Jul 14 21:35
No worries.

I have blocked you now so I don't have to read your hypocritical, backfitting, contradictory biased bullsh1t any longer.
By:
brigust1
When: 03 Jul 14 22:13
Grow up ffs.
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