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By:
alleged22
When: 19 Dec 13 13:37
the owner has probably had his say, never mind barry, bass will do us a favour Laugh
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Dec 13 15:39
I think he might be riding RS with a view to future races, but I could be wrong. They do rate him highly.
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Dec 13 19:32
David Bass rides Chatterbox in a lot of his homework apparently so that's why he is riding.

Current going is Soft, with rain forecast from 11pm tomorrow night until race time the next day. Could be looking at Heavy ground.
By:
Cuthbert
When: 19 Dec 13 20:16
Chatterbox form looks solid,if he had not run in his last race (when the stable were out of form), he would be a 5/2 shot.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 19 Dec 13 20:31
Geraghty is usually on the best of Hendersons. No figures for that just going by memory, pretty sure that's right, though.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 19 Dec 13 21:50
I've sided with Rolling Star.
Jockey normally chooses the right one and has got experience on the heavy from his French days.

A line through Far West with Melodic Rendevous, and improvement he should have from his first run, makes him capable of running to a low 160. That should give him 10+lb in hand here.
By:
alleged22
When: 19 Dec 13 22:30
bjg has chosen the wrong one imo
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 19 Dec 13 22:34
Surely its the owners, the reason why BG has chosen Rolling Star ahead of Chatterbox? He may not have a relationship the same as McCoy has with JP, but imo anything Buckley has in a race is ridden by Geraghty regardless of what else Hendo has. I have no proof of this however and could be wildly wrong but just a thinking???
By:
dunlaying
When: 20 Dec 13 15:02
A couple to consider at big odds,each way ,of course.
Ronaldo Des Mottes, he has four bits of form that make him 151 and he races off of 137. He has lost his way of late but with cheeks and the Pipe team behind him I think he could run a decent race.

Alaivan,ran at Wetherby after a lay off of more than two and a half years. It looks like the official handicapper has keyed that race around Skint and if so then Alaivan has run to 128+. I think it is reasonable to hope for more than a 6lb improvement and as he races off of 134 that would make him fairly treated. He ran off of 144 in the County Hurdle and was beaten less than three lengths. Soft ground should be no problem so I think he looks an interesting e/w prospect at 33/1.
By:
Giddy
When: 20 Dec 13 21:34
Ptit Zig for me. Got a ton of weight and the 4 year old stat to overcome. Improved massively from last term and bypassed HQ last
week to run in this. The softer the better, and persistent rain due until race time
By:
sintonian
When: 20 Dec 13 23:05
Added Totalize to my poke on Chatterbox. Could have taken double figure prices in the week but at the time wasn't sure. Have now seen the jockey has a 10% strike rate at Ascot from 51 rides which is pretty good given he's usually riding outsiders, so im guessing the trainer has done his homework to book Hutch. All other points have been discussed, 2/2 on Heavy etc. No 4yo has won this race yetso he'll have to buck that trend,but 7 have placed.
By:
roobuck
When: 21 Dec 13 05:52
Clearly you had a couple of pre-Xmas drinks last night sint Laugh

Only have to go back to last year to find a 4yo winner Love
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 21 Dec 13 09:53
Totalize for me, another one who looked at the 20's and decided to wait.
  Evan Williams in Mirror today.
"Even here in the Vale of Glamorgan we can hear the positive sounds coming out of the yard - I know they really fancy their horse to run a big race today."
By:
mac99
When: 21 Dec 13 10:40
when  RS beat  Irish saint  last year  there was a big gap back to the others  Irish Saint  is eight pounds better off , he will do for me in an  ultra competitive Race .
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 21 Dec 13 10:43
backed Recession Proof earlier in week at 33/1 ew, encouraged by stable form but slightly discouraged by lack of market support and first time blinkers.

Added Flaxen Flare at 14/1 ew this morning (now bigger prices available, typical!) - just think he has the big field handicap form and less doubts about him running up to scratch than some of the others.

Have to say the top two, Ptit Zig and Rolling Star will have to be close to top drawer to win this, 4yos with lumps of weight in testing conditions.

Not for me, but if one of them wins, connections would be thinking Champion Hurdle surely?
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 13 11:34
had forgot that one Roo.Excited
By:
deepingfox
When: 21 Dec 13 12:04
DELL 'ARCA all day for this race, its really hard to look beyond a Greatwood Hurdle winner, off a rating of 136.  He travelled well at Cheltenham, unlike Pipe horses generally he hunted around in mid-div before looing up to the leaders on the turn into the straight, jumped the last big (showing he had petrol in the tank), took the lead narrowly on the run-in and was ridden hands and heels to the line.

He could easily be the type of horse with 10lb or more in hand today, and Id rather be in this horse than any other.
By:
deepingfox
When: 21 Dec 13 12:05
STER Looming Up of course not "looing" up - that would be odd.
By:
BJG
When: 21 Dec 13 12:43
Track Update: The current Going is Soft, Heavy in places following 6mm rain since racing yesterday.
By:
sageform
When: 21 Dec 13 15:14
Right horses but wrong bets. I backed Ptit Zig and Chris Pea Green win only and Willows Saviour place only! Still a small profit as I laid Ptit Zig off but could have been a big payday if I had done them all e/w.
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 13 16:05
Unlike you to aftertime Sage!

Both Totalize & Chatterbox were pulled-up. I didn't get to see the race but clearly thet ran shockers.

I toyed with the idea of backing Willow's Saviour on Tuesday but he wasn't entered for the Grade 2 Novice on the Friday so left it,no excuses though as the price was still there to be taken once he had been declared. Hey ho.
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 13 16:06
* he was entered
By:
alleged22
When: 21 Dec 13 16:43
chatterbox was struggling after 2 hurdles Whoops
By:
sageform
When: 22 Dec 13 06:58
sint, I after time when I lose as well as win. Just being honest. I was away from the computer until just before the race yesterday. I thought that Ptit Zig was huge at 22 earlier in the week but it went even longer so I didn't bet it again or for a place. Having seen Dan Skelton on the morning line and the heavy going, I thought that the bottom weight might run into a place but didn't bargain for it sailing past my 20/1 win bet!
By:
sintonian
When: 22 Dec 13 16:35
Fair dos Sage. You know me, take it a bit too seriously. Laugh
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 22 Dec 13 16:54
Your a bit like me in them respects Sage, i wasn't going to post about my bet in this after the even yesterday cos someone would post me as a after timer, BUT on the same post where i said i was happy with my Chatterbox i did say i was waiting for the day then doing a bit of price pinching using the PW boxes in the rp every morning of a big race meet when on terrestrial tv, hence my very nice 16/1 the winner Wink
By:
BJG
When: 22 Dec 13 17:38
Chatterbox RIP Sad
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 22 Dec 13 17:41
Oh that is sad news

RIP Chatterbox Sad
By:
alleged22
When: 22 Dec 13 18:40
rip chatterbox
By:
sageform
When: 23 Dec 13 07:03
Always a shame to see a nice horse killed or fatally injured. Sympathy for the owners.
By:
Steamship
When: 23 Dec 13 18:02
RIP Chatterbox, does anyone know what happened to him?
By:
BJG
When: 23 Dec 13 18:10
Major tendon damage picked up early in the race Sad
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