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Cash & Go is on the same mark 141 as last year. Might have needed a season to acclimatise to new yard after coming from Ireland??
Presumably Flaxen Flare finishing anywhere near Jezki will see his OR raised, or will he be ''well-in'' and allowed to run off old mark?? Big risk to take IF this is the target. |
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As ever impossible to back any irish horse b4 the weights tho given the Eng hcappers constant adding of weight
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I'm shocked there is no Montbazon too. Trainer still thinks the horse has Champion Hurdle pretensions so he must be chucked in off 147. I actually think Grumeti has a good chance in this even off 151. It was a solid effort in the Scottish Champion conceding stones all round.
Only 1 firm has priced this race up so far, PP the sponsor, so 12/1 makes no appeal at the mo. |
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Sorry Jam Staines have not priced their race up yet, PP have.
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Nowt to do with this race BJG but the winter AW league starts tonight.
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Caid Du Berlais going to get raised after today ?
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I would be very surprised if he didn't Ibra. This is what I was saying yesterday re Flaxen Flare. I guess PFN is planning on going Chasing now?
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Not so sure, CDB, imo put up a brilliant performance the Schweppes for a juvenile and i bet accordingly at cheltenham.
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Just wondered what you boys thought of Rolling Star.
I got the impression the Chemical yard really fancied this for the Triumph and he ran well for a long way. Ground got deep that day and I'll use that an the excuse for the Aintree bomb out. Young horse clattered by the Triumph and couldn't recover for Liverpool. Read Mark Howard's book and NJH said: "don't think any horse has improved more physically during the summer" Now if he told me it was sunny, I'd get an umbrella out. But, funnily enough, the way he gushed on about Cash and Go at entry stage actually made me look at his other entries. Thus this post. What do you think? I thought 16s was decent, so took some. |
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Not a Nicky fan then???
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At least with Cash & Go you know he can go close to winning off his current mark. Last years winner Olofi had placed in the race the season before so it's no negative.
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I have a feeling C&G is best fresh too so this could well be the time to catch him.
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As for them talking him up... They paid a lot of money for him. Got to keep mr geffen sweet!
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I love having a crack in the Handicap Hurdles through the season at Cheltenham, and focus on those above all else over jumps.
One that stands out to me, is a longshot in the betting, but he's had a summer off flat racing, and is really unexposed over hurdles, and loved the hurly-burly of large field flat handicaps. ZUIDER ZEE. |
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According to the write up in the MH stable tour, C&G has had a summer of intensive body building, i have no idea what that is but i reckon he will fit on his debut.
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Yeah I read that. They don't call him chemical nicky for nothing
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intensive body building??
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i get this one
. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdLzq59xMRA |
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![]() I've had a little bit eachway on Cash & Go now. It's probably an obvious choice but I can't see a stand out candidate at the moment, perhaps Grumeti as he could be a champion hurdle horse, but off 151 he'll have to be and with C&G at least there is a good chance he will run his race. His form figures first time out are 112 and it wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world if he has improved from the age 5 to 6 like the trainer has suggested. 10/1 eachway looks OK with proven course form, 4 places. Will add another closer to the race if needs be. |
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Pine Creek is progressive and is looking to do what Brampour did a couple of years ago and win the same Ascot race followed by the Greatwood.
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one of these might well win:
1112-2 Far West8 4 11-7 Paul Nicholls 146 149 157 131/4- Grumeti211 5 11-12 Alan King 151 134 158 7/003- Kazlian253 5 10-11 Johnny Farrelly 136 138 155 111/B- Lexi´s Boy472 5 10-12 Donald McCain 137 — — P6-402 Midnight Game42 6 11-6 W P Mullins 145 122 151 21P3-2 Mr Mole190 5 11-11 Paul Nicholls 150 143 151 3115-1 Pine Creek15 5 10-12 John Ferguson 137 135 154 213- Zuider Zee226 6 10-8 John Ferguson 133 140 160 |
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Far West, Grumeti, Mr Mole all unlikely to run
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well that makes Pine Creek my number one for the race then
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zuider zee declared for a race tomorrow
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good!!
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Might have a saver on him on the day, just wondered if the trainer is capable of getting the horse to win two decent races in a row. Of his 4 entries it does look his best one though.
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Mass NRs - massive market shake up incoming
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have you got the decs for both races?? PP and this?
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Will av full list that il be able to c+p easily soon, any in particular u wanna know now? Dont av the patience to type all out 1 by 1
1112-2 Far West8 4 11-7 Paul Nicholls 146 149 157 131/4- Grumeti211 5 11-12 Alan King 151 134 158 7/003- Kazlian253 5 10-11 Johnny Farrelly 136 138 155 111/B- Lexi´s Boy472 5 10-12 Donald McCain 137 — — P6-402 Midnight Game42 6 11-6 W P Mullins 145 122 151 21P3-2 Mr Mole190 5 11-11 Paul Nicholls 150 143 151 3115-1 Pine Creek15 5 10-12 John Ferguson 137 135 154 213- Zuider Zee226 6 10-8 John Ferguson 133 140 160 From ur list Out Out Out Out Out Out In Out |
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Pine Creek it is then! was my strongest selection too!
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and thanks as ever for the sterling contribution
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Kashmir Peak
Ifandbutwhynot Pine Creek my shortlist |
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didn't you think Ifandbutwhynot stopped a bit quickly at Aintree last time out BJG? I backed him that day and was disappointed with his finishing effort after travelling well..
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Yup but think he needed the run tbh - was delighted with it and think he is way overpriced if turnin up here
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4 3411-8 Court Minstrel15 6 11-10 Evan Williams 149 130 156
7 4PP0-0 Get Me Out Of Here15 9 11-10 Jonjo O´Neill 149 116 146 1 21-413 Ahyaknowyerself8 7 11-8 Dr Richard Newland 147 146 155 18 1325-2 Tanerko Emery16 7 11-8 David Pipe 147 141 155 17 1332-1 Sametegal29 4 11-5 Paul Nicholls 144 131 154 16 1165- Rolling Star227 4 11-4 Nicky Henderson 143 136 155 3 2U70- Cash And Go249 6 11-2 Nicky Henderson 141 147 156 6 14-213 Flaxen Flare16 4 11-2 Gordon Elliott 141 140 153 11 1131-6 L´Unique15 4 11-1 Alan King 140 144 151 14 7-2117 Rawnaq14F 6 10-13 Matthew J Smith 138 133 157 19 20B-03 Thomas Edison15 6 10-13 A J Martin 138 110 155 13 3115-1 Pine Creek15 5 10-12 John Ferguson 137 135 154 9 12520/ Kalann23F 6 10-12 Sabrina J Harty 137 — — 10 11U0- Kashmir Peak22F 4 10-10 John Quinn 135 128 147 15 0/3-30 Redera71F 7 10-8 A J Martin 133 107 151 8 919F-3 Ifandbutwhynot22 7 10-8 David O´Meara 133 151 156 2 53116- Calculated Risk34F 4 10-4 John Quinn 129 150 152 5 212 Dell´ Arca157 4 10-3 David Pipe 128 — 126 12 052/U7 Orzare15 7 9-11 Philip Hide 122 — — |
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Does anyone know the record of 4yo's in this race. I know Brampour won it recently but before then I think they had a poor record? Not entirely sure.
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Doesnt look a vintage renewal does it? I like Flaxen Flare for this myself. Also, Ive been watching Thomas Edison for about 18 months and he is being primed for a big handicap somewhere. Could this be the one?!
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Hugely disappointing entry for such a big prize on what should be perfect ground.
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C&G was 10/1 in the majority of places last night. Tops 11/2 now!
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