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The StanJames.com Greatwood Hurdle
Class 1, Grade 3, £100,000 Total Prize Fund. 3.15pm, Cheltenham, Sunday, November 17, 2013.
For 4yo+, two miles about half a furlong. Entries closed, October 29, entries revealed October 31 (45
entries), weights revealed November 6. Penalties: after November 3, a winner of a hurdle race 5lb (no
penalty to increase a horse’s weight above 11st 12lb). Six-day confirmation stage November 11, final
48-hour declaration stage 10.00am, November 15. Form figures supplied by Weatherbys and are correct
up to and including the racing of Monday, October 28.

Form Horse Age Owner Trainer
3121-41 AHYAKNOWYERSELF (IRE) 7 G Carstairs & R Marker Dr Richard Newland
5141-4 BLUE FASHION (IRE) 4 John & Barbara Cotton Nicky Henderson
122202- CAID DU BERLAIS (FR) 4 Donlon, Doyle, MacDonald & C Barber Paul Nicholls
153116- CALCULATED RISK 4 Terry Warner John Quinn
015-112 CALL ME BUBBLES (FR) 4 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
15/2U00- CASH AND GO (IRE) 6 Robin Geffen Nicky Henderson
1U3/2F0- COTTON MILL 6 Bloomfields John Ferguson
4/13411- COURT MINSTREL (IRE) 6 Janet Davies Evan Williams
212 DELL' ARCA (IRE) 4 Prof Caroline Tisdall David Pipe
022642 ENCHANTED FOREST (IRE) 5 Francis Campbell Michael Hourigan IRE
3/11112- FAR WEST (FR) 4 Axom XXXIX Paul Nicholls
123311 FIRST IN THE QUEUE (IRE) 6 Liam Breslin Nicky Henderson
2514-21 FLAXEN FLARE (IRE) 4 Mrs Pat Sloan Gordon Elliott IRE
2P2-34 GASSIN GOLF 4 Will Roseff Richard Lee
1/14PP0- GET ME OUT OF HERE (IRE) 9 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
0/30231/- GIBB RIVER (IRE) 7 Corbett Stud Nicky Henderson
F1131/4- GRUMETI 5 McNeill Family Alan King
1010F-3 IFANDBUTWHYNOT (IRE) 7 Claire Hollowood & Henry Dean David O'Meara
312520/- KALANN (IRE) 6 K McConnell Sabrina Harty IRE
2/0(1)11-1 KARINGA DANCER 7 H B Geddes Harry Fry
11U0- KASHMIR PEAK (IRE) 4 Win Only SP Only Partnership John Quinn
140/003- KAZLIAN (FR) 5 Twelve Pipers Piping Johnny Farrelly
41131- L'UNIQUE (FR) 4 Denis Barry Alan King
32111/B- LEXI'S BOY (IRE) 5 Tim Leslie Donald McCain
112132 LIFE AND SOUL (IRE) 6 Matthew Taylor Donald McCain
6/126-11 MAKARI 6 Matt & Lauren Morgan Nicky Henderson
2P6-402 MIDNIGHT GAME 6 Gigginstown House Stud Willie Mullins IRE
121P3-2 MR MOLE (IRE) 5 J P McManus Paul Nicholls
50/100-U OLOFI (FR) 7 McNeill Family Tom George
0/3052/-U ORZARE (IRE) 7 Bryan Fry Philip Hide
3115- PINE CREEK 5 Bloomfields John Ferguson
24131-2 PTIT ZIG (FR) 4 Barry Fulton, Chris Giles & Richard Webb Paul Nicholls
U02-P31 RATTAN (USA) 8 J A Coleman Willie Mullins IRE
20-2110 RAWNAQ (IRE) 6 Kevin John Smith Matthew Smith IRE
300/3-30 REDERA (IRE) 7 Peter William Partnership Tony Martin IRE
31/2120- RIVER MAIGUE (IRE) 6 Michael Buckley Nicky Henderson
1165- ROLLING STAR (FR) 4 Michael Buckley & The Vestey Family Nicky Henderson
11306-0 RUACANA 4 Bloomfields John Ferguson
21332-1 SAMETEGAL (FR) 4 John & Barbara Cotton Paul Nicholls
2/01110- SHOTAVODKA (IRE) 7 Jane Gerard-Pearse David Pipe
111/130- SWING BOWLER 6 Exors of the late David Johnson David Pipe
211325- TANERKO EMERY (FR) 7 Walters Plant Hire Ltd Egan Waste Ltd David Pipe
P020U-0 THOMAS EDISON (IRE) 6 J P McManus Tony Martin IRE
61-1262 UN BEAU ROMAN (FR) 5 Aiden Devaney Willie Mullins IRE
213- ZUIDER ZEE (GER) 6 Bloomfields John Ferguson



Henderson reported: “The horse I am most looking forward to in the Greatwood is Cash And Go. He
is in good form and ran a great race to finish second last year. Things didn’t go right for him after that,
but I am going to start again with him this season and see how we go.

“I would also be interested in Rolling Star and River Maigue because the Greatwood, like the Paddy Power
Gold Cup, tends to suit those second-season horses. The fact they are unexposed just gives them half a
chance against the older horses.

“Rolling Star was very impressive first time out last season and went into the Triumph Hurdle as
favourite, but disappointed us. He just petered out at the end of last season for one reason or another,
but is a lovely horse.”

Flaxen Flare is one of 10 entries trained in Ireland and Gordon Elliott’s charge could bid to become the
first Irish-trained winner since Sizing Europe in 2007. He enjoyed an impressive success in the Grade
Three Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle at The Festival in March and was a fine second in the Galway
Hurdle in August.

The four-year-old came home a respectable seventh in a Flat handicap at Leopardstown on September
7.

Elliott revealed: “The StanJames.com Greatwood Hurdle is a valuable pot and we will definitely have a
look at it with Flaxen Flare.

“He runs this weekend in the Grade Two at Down Royal. Obviously, Jezki is running there too so it will
be a tough ask, but it is good prize money and we would be delighted if he could finish second or third.

“He ran a very good race to finish second in the Galway Hurdle and we have freshened him up since his
last run at Leopardstown. He might not be as fit as we would like him to be, but he should run a good
race.”

Ireland’s champion jump trainer Willie Mullins has four possible starters in the StanJames.com Greatwood
Hurdle, including progressive Galway scorer Call Me Bubbles and talented six-year-old Midnight
Game, while Sabrina Harty has entered Kalann, who was last seen over hurdles when 10th in the 2012
Stan James Champion Hurdle at The Festival.

Get Me Out Of Here, trained by Jonjo O’Neill, is the potential top-weight and has run well at Cheltenham
without winning.

The nine-year-old captured the 2010 Betfair Hurdle at Newbury and went on to finish second in that
season’s Supreme Novices’ Hurdle at The Festival at Cheltenham. He has also finished runner-up in two
other races at The Festival - the 2011 Vincent O’Brien County Hurdle and 2012 Coral Cup.

O’Neill said: “The StanJames.com Greatwood Hurdle is an option for Get Me Out Of Here providing the
ground is not too soft.

“He is a great old horse, but is getting a bit long in the tooth now. We have thought about going chasing
with him in the past, but he doesn’t like jumping fences.

“He has been a super horse, but he has reached his level now and you have to treat him a bit like some
of those old sprinters - you take your chance and hopefully one day it comes off.”

Paul Nicholls landed the prestigious handicap hurdle with Brampour (2011) and Rigmarole (2003) and
has five entries this year, led by Far West and Sametegal, who were second and third to Our Conor in
the JCB Triumph Hurdle in March. The quintet is completed by Caid Du Berlais, Mr Mole and Grade
One runner-up Ptit Zig.

Alan King has entered Grade One scorers L’Unique and Grumeti, who finished fourth behind the Evan
Williams-trained Court Minstrel in the Scottish Champion Hurdle on his only appearance last season.

Olofi, trained by Tom George in Gloucestershire, could bid to become the first dual winner having won
the contest last year, while Harry Fry has entered Karinga Dancer, who completed a four-timer in facile
fashion at Aintree on October 26.

David Pipe’s four possible runners include Vincent O’Brien County Hurdle fifth Tanerko Emery and
Betfair Hurdle third Swing Bowler, while Cotton Mill headlines a quartet trained by John Ferguson.

Other notable contenders include the John Quinn-trained pair of Calculated Risk and Kashmir Peak,
a Grade Two winner at Doncaster last term.
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Report sintonian October 31, 2013 1:00 PM GMT
Cash & Go is on the same mark 141 as last year. Might have needed a season to acclimatise to new yard after coming from Ireland??

Presumably Flaxen Flare finishing anywhere near Jezki will see his OR raised, or will he be ''well-in'' and allowed to run off old mark?? Big risk to take IF this is the target.
Report BJG October 31, 2013 1:56 PM GMT
As ever impossible to back any irish horse b4 the weights tho given the Eng hcappers constant adding of weight

Shocked there is no Clondaw Kaempfer
Report sintonian October 31, 2013 4:33 PM GMT
I'm shocked there is no Montbazon too. Trainer still thinks the horse has Champion Hurdle pretensions so he must be chucked in off 147. I actually think Grumeti has a good chance in this even off 151. It was a solid effort in the Scottish Champion conceding stones all round.

Only 1 firm has priced this race up so far, PP the sponsor, so 12/1 makes no appeal at the mo.
Report sintonian October 31, 2013 4:37 PM GMT
Sorry Jam Staines have not priced their race up yet, PP have.
Report unluckyStu November 1, 2013 5:00 PM GMT
Nowt to do with this race BJG but the winter AW league starts tonight.
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 1, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
Caid Du Berlais going to get raised after today ?
Report sintonian November 1, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
I would be very surprised if he didn't Ibra. This is what I was saying yesterday re Flaxen Flare. I guess PFN is planning on going Chasing now?
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 1, 2013 9:28 PM GMT
Not so sure, CDB, imo put up a brilliant performance the Schweppes for a juvenile and i bet accordingly at cheltenham.

Still reckon he is one of those juveniles that progresses.
Report gravy November 8, 2013 11:07 PM GMT
Just wondered what you boys thought of Rolling Star.
I got the impression the Chemical yard really fancied this for the Triumph and he ran well for a long way.
Ground got deep that day and I'll use that an the excuse for the Aintree bomb out.
Young horse clattered by the Triumph and couldn't recover for Liverpool.
Read Mark Howard's book and NJH said: "don't think any horse has improved more physically during the summer"
Now if he told me it was sunny, I'd get an umbrella out.
But, funnily enough, the way he gushed on about Cash and Go at entry stage actually made me look at his other entries.
Thus this post.
What do you think? I thought 16s was decent, so took some.
Report Millerracing67 November 9, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
Not a Nicky fan then???
Report sintonian November 9, 2013 1:58 PM GMT
At least with Cash & Go you know he can go close to winning off his current mark. Last years winner Olofi had placed in the race the season before so it's no negative.
Report Can't Catch Me November 9, 2013 11:39 PM GMT
I have a feeling C&G is best fresh too so this could well be the time to catch him.
Report Can't Catch Me November 9, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
As for them talking him up... They paid a lot of money for him. Got to keep mr geffen sweet!
Report deepingfox November 10, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
I love having a crack in the Handicap Hurdles through the season at Cheltenham, and focus on those above all else over jumps.

One that stands out to me, is a longshot in the betting, but he's had a summer off flat racing, and is really unexposed over hurdles, and loved the hurly-burly of large field flat handicaps. ZUIDER ZEE.
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 10, 2013 9:03 AM GMT
According to the write up in the MH stable tour, C&G has had a summer of intensive body building, i have no idea what that is but i reckon he will fit on his debut.
Report sintonian November 10, 2013 1:37 PM GMT
Yeah I read that. They don't call him chemical nicky for nothing SillyTongue Out
Report buddeliea November 10, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
intensive body building?? Laugh

Just had this vision of the horse on his back lifting weightsLaughLaughLaughLaugh

sorry....think ive lost it!!
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 10, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
i get this one

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdLzq59xMRA
Report sintonian November 10, 2013 7:56 PM GMT
Laugh

I've had a little bit eachway on Cash & Go now. It's probably an obvious choice but I can't see a stand out candidate at the moment, perhaps Grumeti as he could be a champion hurdle horse, but off 151 he'll have to be and with C&G at least there is a good chance he will run his race. His form figures first time out are 112 and it wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world if he has improved from the age 5 to 6 like the trainer has suggested. 10/1 eachway looks OK with proven course form, 4 places. Will add another closer to the race if needs be.
Report sintonian November 10, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
Pine Creek is progressive and is looking to do what Brampour did a couple of years ago and win the same Ascot race followed by the Greatwood.
Report judorick November 11, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
one of these might well win:

1112-2    Far West8      4    11-7    Paul Nicholls         146    149    157
131/4-    Grumeti211      5    11-12    Alan King         151    134    158
7/003-    Kazlian253      5    10-11    Johnny Farrelly         136    138    155
111/B-    Lexi´s Boy472      5    10-12    Donald McCain         137    —    —
P6-402    Midnight Game42      6    11-6    W P Mullins         145    122    151
21P3-2    Mr Mole190      5    11-11    Paul Nicholls         150    143    151
3115-1    Pine Creek15      5    10-12    John Ferguson         137    135    154
213-    Zuider Zee226      6    10-8    John Ferguson         133    140    160
Report BJG November 11, 2013 9:02 AM GMT
Far West, Grumeti, Mr Mole all unlikely to run
Report judorick November 11, 2013 11:23 AM GMT
well that makes Pine Creek my number one for the race then
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 11, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
zuider zee declared for a race tomorrow
Report judorick November 11, 2013 12:22 PM GMT
good!!
Report sintonian November 11, 2013 12:29 PM GMT
Might have a saver on him on the day, just wondered if the trainer is capable of getting the horse to win two decent races in a row. Of his 4 entries it does look his best one though.
Report BJG November 11, 2013 12:44 PM GMT
Mass NRs - massive market shake up incoming
Report judorick November 11, 2013 12:59 PM GMT
have you got the decs for both races?? PP and this?
Report BJG November 11, 2013 1:13 PM GMT
Will av full list that il be able to c+p easily soon, any in particular u wanna know now? Dont av the patience to type all out 1 by 1

1112-2    Far West8      4    11-7    Paul Nicholls         146    149    157
131/4-    Grumeti211      5    11-12    Alan King         151    134    158
7/003-    Kazlian253      5    10-11    Johnny Farrelly         136    138    155
111/B-    Lexi´s Boy472      5    10-12    Donald McCain         137    —    —
P6-402    Midnight Game42      6    11-6    W P Mullins         145    122    151
21P3-2    Mr Mole190      5    11-11    Paul Nicholls         150    143    151
3115-1    Pine Creek15      5    10-12    John Ferguson         137    135    154
213-    Zuider Zee226      6    10-8    John Ferguson         133    140    160


From ur list

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Report judorick November 11, 2013 1:23 PM GMT
Pine Creek it is then! was my strongest selection too!
Report judorick November 11, 2013 1:24 PM GMT
and thanks as ever for the sterling contribution
Report BJG November 11, 2013 1:26 PM GMT
Kashmir Peak
Ifandbutwhynot
Pine Creek

my shortlist
Report sintonian November 11, 2013 1:41 PM GMT
didn't you think Ifandbutwhynot stopped a bit quickly at Aintree last time out BJG? I backed him that day and was disappointed with his finishing effort after travelling well..
Report BJG November 11, 2013 1:49 PM GMT
Yup but think he needed the run tbh - was delighted with it and think he is way overpriced if turnin up here
Report BJG November 11, 2013 1:49 PM GMT
4     3411-8    Court Minstrel15      6    11-10    Evan Williams         149    130    156
7     4PP0-0    Get Me Out Of Here15      9    11-10    Jonjo O´Neill         149    116    146
1     21-413    Ahyaknowyerself8      7    11-8    Dr Richard Newland         147    146    155
18     1325-2    Tanerko Emery16      7    11-8    David Pipe         147    141    155
17     1332-1    Sametegal29      4    11-5    Paul Nicholls         144    131    154
16     1165-    Rolling Star227      4    11-4    Nicky Henderson         143    136    155
3     2U70-    Cash And Go249      6    11-2    Nicky Henderson         141    147    156
6     14-213    Flaxen Flare16      4    11-2    Gordon Elliott         141    140    153
11     1131-6    L´Unique15      4    11-1    Alan King         140    144    151
14     7-2117    Rawnaq14F      6    10-13    Matthew J Smith         138    133    157
19     20B-03    Thomas Edison15      6    10-13    A J Martin         138    110    155
13     3115-1    Pine Creek15      5    10-12    John Ferguson         137    135    154
9     12520/    Kalann23F      6    10-12    Sabrina J Harty         137    —    —
10     11U0-    Kashmir Peak22F      4    10-10    John Quinn         135    128    147
15     0/3-30    Redera71F      7    10-8    A J Martin         133    107    151
8     919F-3    Ifandbutwhynot22      7    10-8    David O´Meara         133    151    156
2     53116-    Calculated Risk34F      4    10-4    John Quinn         129    150    152
5     212    Dell´ Arca157      4    10-3    David Pipe         128    —    126
12     052/U7    Orzare15      7    9-11    Philip Hide         122    —    —
Report sintonian November 11, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
Does anyone know the record of 4yo's in this race. I know Brampour won it recently but before then I think they had a poor record? Not entirely sure.
Report Can't Catch Me November 11, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
Doesnt look a vintage renewal does it? I like Flaxen Flare for this myself. Also, Ive been watching Thomas Edison for about 18 months and he is being primed for a big handicap somewhere. Could this be the one?!
Report unclepuncle November 11, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
Hugely disappointing entry for such a big prize on what should be perfect ground.Sad
Report sintonian November 11, 2013 2:56 PM GMT
C&G was 10/1 in the majority of places last night. Tops 11/2 now!
Report Can't Catch Me November 11, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
Nightmare! Going to be there on Saturday as well. Might struggle to cheer him home!
Report deepingfox November 11, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
Race has changed dramatically with the 5-day decs, could be only 14 or 15 max on the day.

Studied the entries this evening, and I am favouring FLAXEN FLARE for Gordon Elliot to repeat his drive up the hill, in blinkers, this Sunday.

Has already gone close in Heavy at Galway Hurdle in the summer, and allotted 141, which he's proven able to perform too.

His big-field results are better than his small field ones, he loves getting a tow into a race and the way he ripped the heart out of a good-field Fred Winter, gives me hope he will reward my support tonight, for Sundays race.
Report ReaseHeath November 12, 2013 12:04 AM GMT
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Does anyone know the record of 4yo's in this race. I know Brampour won it recently but before then I think they had a poor record? Not entirely sure.


4yo 2 winners and 7 placed from 33 runners over last ten years, the other 4yo winner was Detroit City.

Whilst we're on the subject - only 7yo winner in last 10 years is Khyber Kim and none older than that though a total of 39 have tried.

Make of that what you will.
Report ReaseHeath November 12, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
^ 39 runners = 7 years and older over last 10 years just to be clear.
Report sintonian November 12, 2013 12:08 PM GMT
cheers Rease. 2 winners from 33 is not all that great but many make the frame. The two winners were rated 17lb and 13lb afterwards so if you're backing a 4yo they appear to need at least 10lb in hand to win.
Report judorick November 12, 2013 12:17 PM GMT
this is Pine Creek's race to lose

max ew bet for me

already on 2 pts ew 10/1

waiting NRNB before getting the rest on
Report sintonian November 13, 2013 2:20 PM GMT
NJH has taken out Rollin Star. Says he needs more time. Feel sorry for anyone who backed that on Monday/Tuesday.
Report Facts November 13, 2013 4:29 PM GMT
PINE CREEK for me
Report Colldogg November 14, 2013 11:09 PM GMT
Pine Creek looks good and will be tough to beat, but price to short for me so I'm going back to an old fave in Ifbutandwhynot. I got 14/1 a couple of days ago so hoping for a good run. If he can repeat his run where he gave Tanerko Emery 5lbs and a beating at Cheltenham around this time last year then he will take a lot of stopping. I'm just hoping he wasn't fully primed for his comeback run last month and this was always the target. He should be 100% fit and primed come Sunday.
Report unclepuncle November 16, 2013 7:39 PM GMT
Looks a good a/p call on Pine Creek Judo. As with the PP it looks a poor renewal and in all the other handicaps at the meeting so far it seems a light(ish) weighted horse with recent winning or placed form is the way to go.
Report deepingfox November 16, 2013 11:01 PM GMT
Backed FLAXEN FLARE at 5-day Decs based on (mentioned earlier in this thread):
Cheltenham Form
Forecast Good (Good to Soft) Ground
Preference for Big Fields and Strong Pace.

Took the 14/1 and was surprised it was still available all week, whilst the money flooded in on others.

See P W probably tipped him now, and the price better reflects what I thought his SP could be.

Now all that's needed is a prayer for perfection, from horse and rider on the day, and a lot of luck.
Report brandyontherocks November 17, 2013 10:50 AM GMT
I've thrown a couple of sheckles on Tony Martin's horse Redera.
Thought good enough to run in a grade 2 hurdle at Cheltenham a couple of seasons ago and ran a cracker in the County hurdle that season too. Got squeezed out at a crucial stage when looking likely to have been in the money.
Runs off 132, with a lad on claiming 7lbs. at 25-1 looks interesting
Report Steamship November 17, 2013 12:34 PM GMT
Kashmir Peak
Calculated Risk
Redera
Report sintonian November 17, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
Hoping the roids have worked for C&G. Good luck all.
Report ReaseHeath November 17, 2013 2:53 PM GMT
Sametegal win 10/1

Redera ew 33/1

good luck
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 17, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
Hopefully C&G will do the business today

good luck all.
Report buddeliea November 17, 2013 3:00 PM GMT
Minimum bet on GMOOH,nothing really sticks out for me.
i do suspect he will probably be nearer last than 1st,but you never know with him!!
Report sintonian November 17, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
C&G well beaten here.
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 17, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
yep, wont be backing that ever again. Looks gone at the game.
Report ReaseHeath November 17, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
Rawnaq looks worth keeping an eye on, up on the pace all the way and still battling on well when squeezed out at the end.
Report festivalfanatic November 17, 2013 6:13 PM GMT
The only way the Nicholls horse have could have run further was if he had gone on a detour via the car park. Not beaten that far.....I'll be watching!
Report ReaseHeath November 17, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
^ think the plan is novice chasing for Sametegal.

It was before the Greatwood anyway, unless he won it.
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