2013 - 2014 Ten to Follow National Hunt Competition thread.

Yes, another big weekend. Quite a few irons in the fire, but AFC is probably the most vital.

Would be nice if I can manage a few more weeks before it all starts to unravel.

Start of the ptp season too.

AFC is one of our main players. Very light on Hennessy horses with only Rocky Creek, Invictus and Katenko in a small number.

oh dear...

2nd in the Hen

Could be 100 pts if anyone had the winner as a star horse (117th ranked too).

Had Triolo in three lists, star horse in two. Fifth at the moment. Turns out Rajdhani Express winning Paddy Power would have got me the November £10k. Close but no cigar.

Well done. I see a big syndicate mopped up too. That should mean you get a good run for your money.

My tactics were similar, perming a bunch of star horses for both the PP & Hen GCs, but I only managed placed horses in both.

Oh well.

Currently 26th,47th,86th,114th courtesy of Triolo. but struggling to stay in touch!

At least a good start to December prize quest with Jezki winning.

JOCI Club   
At least a good start to December prize quest with Jezki winning.


Think you will need Don Cossack also to win that JOCI

Disagree, with the wealth of point scoring opportunites in December, having Don Cossack is in no way essential to winning the December prize.

Don't think Sir Des Champ will run in the Lexus, that fall has to leave him sore and without a run under his belt, he Looked very burley too. Will surely encourage the English Battalions to come over. Would Actually fancy Arvika in the Lexus, he looked to settle there.

I don't know why they don't run arvika in the KG myself.

Looks a good horse Arvika. SDC was never going to be winning that. Frustrating that Mullins has not wanted  or been able to get him out earlier, and fitter and ready for a big pot like that. Was only ever going to be a training run, and now it's backfired on him.

How is arvika going to realize his potential if he isn't running in a KG and they don't fancy him left handed?

Starting to go tits-up.

One of my January lists is out performing my main perm and in the early running for the December prize (and isn't burdened by that nag Sprinter Sacre)!

not good enough imo that's why duffy

Arvika puts me 2nd overall. Be nice to see it rack up big points as not that many of leaders have it. Long,long way to go of course but being in contention means the 'what-ifs' get even more head battering!

That's good going!

Slow start for me.

Still Cross that John's Spirit not in book. 

Nice work Monkey

I had a feeling Avrika might turn out to be this years Golden Silver.
Did I put him in my lists?
No

How much is the pool?

Paper says 70% rather than an amount.

hmmmmmmm

Kempton throw a £20,000 carrot to Sire De Grugy's connections to tempt them to take on Sprinter Sacre so Henderson lets them know that if you stick to your plans and run at the end of January there wont be any opposition. He does this by finally revealing Simonsig is out for the season.

Do you think they were afraid of SDG?

they'll meet at Ascot in Jan anyway all being well, Sprinter's next target after Kempton is the same race as SdG - Victor Chandler Chase, as was.

Very disappointing At Fishers Cross has turned from a potential champion to bag of shoite in a few months.

Yep. Uncomfortable viewing. There's always Cheltenham, but I was expecting a pile of points before then.

Hoping to get back on track today. Cue card or Silviniaco my best KG result, have Dynaste and AF too. Would like TNO to chip in along with Champ Fever.

Or I'm toast.

Good luck people.

Yes. Could be make or break time. Have so many different options though, that I'm not certain what my best resullts would be.

Well I fancy Menorah today, but a win for him would do nothing for me in the comp.

Long Run, Silvi and Dynaste are in my lists.

A very pleasing result.

Champ Fever disappoints

Yeah, TNO & CF detracted somewhat, but they still have big points to grab (hopefully) at Chelts.

I also have a Feb list doing well in the monthly prize, with three Irish runners and Sprinter to come...

All I ask for is a bit of hope.

Are you Mystic Meg talking about the Feb prize already (can you give me some of the winners in advance please?). Private message only of course!

Does anyone know how many entries there are this year?

Not sure, but there's deffo at least 29,673

Yeah, I can see the future all right. My Feb list is doing surprisingly well for the Dec prize!

Hope the weather doesn't claim Leopardstown, like it's in danger of claiming my imminent 2 mile walk to the train station!

Smelt a rat. Trainer always nervous but he's not the same without Sun at the gate. Wont be seen again

The wheels have come off...

Sprinter Sacre, Invictus, At Fishers Cross, Finnegans Rainbow, Close Touch, Simonsig, Rocky Creek, Solwhit, Rajdhani Express, Sanctuare, Flemenstar, Binocular, Silver By Nature, Un Atout, Back In Focus, Countrywide Flame, Chatterbox,

Some of the wheels

Finnegans Rainbow.

Rainbows end

I miss Geoffrey, George, Bungle & Zippy.

don't forget rod jane and freddie

Not as much as Spriter Sacre

Did I hear you sigh a grudge

In the Twinlight

Up above the Cheltenham fences Sire De Grugy's gonna fly high

Felix Yonger ran on Friday @ 2/5 favourite and I thought the jockey gave him too much to do, he finished a fast closing second and has quite probably cost me the  £10,000 monthly prize. I am 7th overall in the monthly
So near and yet, and Winchole storms through to take up the running

Unlucky. 

Sprinter Sacre, Invictus, At Fishers Cross, Finnegans Rainbow, Close Touch, Simonsig, Rocky Creek, Solwhit, Rajdhani Express, Sanctuare, Flemenstar, Binocular, Silver By Nature, Un Atout, Back In Focus, Countrywide Flame, Chatterbox, and now add Dynaste to that list, apparently he came back in sore after the KG and is now on the easy list.

Has anyone got any groups still intact.

Got to adopt a Zen state of mind or madness could easily ensue. List that was 2nd overall has had Arvika Lig, Champ Fever & S Sacre combine for zero points in last few days for example.

January prize up for grabs!

Yes, step aside for my mighty January lists. First up Oscar Whiskey.

I won the Jan prize in 2004, with a list that was pretty poor overall.

Maybe I get a 10th Anniversary repeat?

Annie Power of to a winning start at least.

I don't know if you have noticed JOCI but you only have Hurricane fly that is scheduled to run this month coupled with Annie.
A couple of hundred people have coupled Annie/Oscar
A lot of big players going straight to Cheltenham so January runners are going to be scarce, Big Bucks due out

There's always Feb.

Not without Sir Des Champ

Cue Card will surely go for the Gold cup now, £120,000 for second, £60,000 for third.

Everyone's lists must be obliterated

Sir Des Champs.

Think I'm toast on my main lists, what with At Fishers Cross on the easy list too.

Solwhit's gone too does it ever end, worse season ever for injuries

Yep, seldom get a clean run with the top ten horses, but this year it's a bit of a minefield.

The zeros:

No.1 Sprinter Sacre (unwell)
No.4 Sir DC (OUT)
No.7 At FC (gone wrong?)
No.11 Our Conor (still in the hunt)
No.17 Simonsig (OUT)
No.18 Invictus (RETIRED?)
No.19 Big Buck's (on the comeback trail)
No.20 Solwhit (OUT)
No.22 Flemenstar (OUT)

It's all about Cheltenham though. 

Our best list, way back on 294, has Nadiya De La Vega (star horse) going today.

This competition is no longer all about Cheltenham Ten, not with the introduction of star horses and especially so this year with so many horses out with injury from themost popular selections. Its all about winners where ever they come from..

All about survival, bad news for you Ten...African Gold out for season

Most popular
1st    Sprinter Sacre......Easy List
2nd    The New One
3rd    Bobs Worth
4th    Sir Des Champs.......Out
5th    Hurricane Fly
6th    Silviniaco Conti
7th    At Fishers Cross.....Easy List
8th    Champagne Fever
9th    Dynaste.....Easy List
10th    My Tent Or Yours
11th    Our Conor
12th    Cue Card
13th    Zarkandar
14th    Annie Power
15th    Jezki
16th    Al Ferof
17th    Simonsig......Out
18th    Invictus......Out
19th    Big Buck's.....Not seen yet
20th    Solwhit......Out
21st    Rocky Creek
22nd    Flemenstar......Out
23rd    Champion Court
24th    Rajdhani Express.....Easy List
25th    African Gold......Out
26th    Melodic Rendezvous
27th    Oscar Whisky
28th    Lord Windermere
29th    Sire De Grugy
30th    Katenko
31st    Briar Hill
32nd    Un De Sceaux
33rd    Boston Bob
34th    Arvika Ligeonniere
35th    Tidal Bay
36th    Ballynagour.....Easy List
37th    Captain Conan.....Easy List
38th    Don Cossack
39th    Long Run
40th    Defy Logic
41st    Grandouet
42nd    Harry Topper
43rd    Hadrian's Approach
44th    Finian's Rainbow......Out
45th    Unioniste
46th    Rolling Aces
47th    The Liquidator.....Easy List
48th    Sizing Europe
49th    First Lieutenant
50th    Taquin Du Seuil
50th    Nadiya De La Vega
52nd    Shutthefrontdoor
53rd    Quevega.....Not seen yet
54th    Godsmejudge
55th    Roi Du Mee
56th    Oscar Rock
57th    Morning Assembly
58th    Chatterbox......Out
59th    Merry King
60th    Smad Place
61st    Houblon Des Obeaux
62nd    Captain Chris
63rd    Rule The World
64th    Teaforthree
65th    Wonderful Charm
66th    Monksland.....Not seen yet
67th    Close Touch......Out

Yep, very frustrating/deflating - but great if you avoid stepping in the pile of pooh.

So are we for or against subs?

Or should it be pick 12 and let the best ten score?

It's a real bummer to have spunked my cash a long way before Chelts.

Yeah, I'm talking about seven to follow and counting...

Planning for the flat anyone?

Big day for the World Hurdle tomorrow.

Still in contention on the main comp, but limping rather.

January lists were a no show. Hoping my February lists perform better. Going out with a whimper I fear.

Anyone else holding out much hope?

No.

Just about in contention for the main competition but need Tidal Bay to run and win in the Hennessy.

Floundering in 684th !!!
(So many out - They must reconsider 'ten from twelve' if not allowing subs!)

Agree that pick 12 score the best 10 would make injuries more bearable.

521st in the main comp & joint 26th in Feb, but suspect it will be short lived.

Blo0dy hell JOCI we are all suffering with a few injuries here and there, but you have been decimated, Rubi Ball your last straw. very unlucky season for you mate.

Yep, thoughts on a relaxed Cheltenham now, focussing on the betting and not my TTF horses!

And it all started so well!
(Still it's more fun than the lottery!)

I've got 2 entries in 1550th.
But my lower ones look better from the point of view of the Festival.

Cue Card!

Not long now.

Up to 48th place here

Nice once TTF. Do you hold out any hope for a prize?

Cheers REM.
Nothing in the National, but maybe a slight chance.

My worst ever campaign, and from an early stage!

Actually I've realised that I do have a National entry in Balthazar King.

But I think he'd have to win and me have a lot of other luck to get anywhere.

I've finished 192nd with 583.3 points.

Managed 10th, which is my best by some margin over the years. Gutted when Tidal Bay was brought down, but not sure he would have been able to cope with winner even if he had stood up. Roll on next year.

Well done Corporal.  That puts you into the prizemoney doesn't it?

Yes - about £900. Had 9 lines but still a decent return. It was the one line where I decided to omit both Sprinter & Bobs Worth - so my 'wild' entry proved very lucky

That's not bad at all. 

Well done on 10th. That must be very pleasing. The winner did well to score so heavily despite carrying Sprinter. The hurdlers proved very reliable apart from the stayers.

530 odd was my best and somewhere in the 800s. Worst list was down in 27,000 zone.

Just noticed that the flat comp is up on the tote site (I'll leave the honour of starting a new thread to TTF). A rather poor selection of horses at first glance and some confusion over age. Notable omissions such as Adelaide and sure there are many more. Think I'll wait for the jumps to return (only 6 months to go).

Will do REM.