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19 Oct 13 16:34
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So many questions.

Will Sprinter Sacre rule again?
Can Big Bucks regain his crown?
Can a 5yo win the Champion Hurdle?

And who is entering?
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Report REM November 29, 2013 12:15 PM GMT
Yes, another big weekend. Quite a few irons in the fire, but AFC is probably the most vital.

Would be nice if I can manage a few more weeks before it all starts to unravel.

Start of the ptp season too.

Report JOCI Club November 29, 2013 8:02 PM GMT
AFC is one of our main players. Very light on Hennessy horses with only Rocky Creek, Invictus and Katenko in a small number.
Report REM November 30, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
oh dear...
Report JOCI Club November 30, 2013 2:49 PM GMT
Report REM November 30, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
2nd in the Hen

Could be 100 pts if anyone had the winner as a star horse (117th ranked too).
Report RockMonkey November 30, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
Had Triolo in three lists, star horse in two. Fifth at the moment. Turns out Rajdhani Express winning Paddy Power would have got me the November £10k. Close but no cigar.
Report REM November 30, 2013 4:13 PM GMT
Well done. I see a big syndicate mopped up too. That should mean you get a good run for your money.

My tactics were similar, perming a bunch of star horses for both the PP & Hen GCs, but I only managed placed horses in both.

Oh well.
Report aft November 30, 2013 11:11 PM GMT
Currently 26th,47th,86th,114th courtesy of Triolo. but struggling to stay in touch!
Report JOCI Club December 1, 2013 4:03 PM GMT
At least a good start to December prize quest with Jezki winning.
Report sisyphus December 2, 2013 1:02 PM GMT
JOCI Club   
At least a good start to December prize quest with Jezki winning.

Think you will need Don Cossack also to win that JOCI
Report JOCI Club December 2, 2013 7:52 PM GMT
Disagree, with the wealth of point scoring opportunites in December, having Don Cossack is in no way essential to winning the December prize.
Report sisyphus December 8, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
Don't think Sir Des Champ will run in the Lexus, that fall has to leave him sore and without a run under his belt, he Looked very burley too. Will surely encourage the English Battalions to come over. Would Actually fancy Arvika in the Lexus, he looked to settle there.
Report duffy December 8, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
I don't know why they don't run arvika in the KG myself.
Report JOCI Club December 8, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
Looks a good horse Arvika. SDC was never going to be winning that. Frustrating that Mullins has not wanted  or been able to get him out earlier, and fitter and ready for a big pot like that. Was only ever going to be a training run, and now it's backfired on him.
Report duffy December 8, 2013 2:08 PM GMT
How is arvika going to realize his potential if he isn't running in a KG and they don't fancy him left handed?
Report REM December 8, 2013 6:23 PM GMT
Starting to go tits-up.

One of my January lists is out performing my main perm and in the early running for the December prize (and isn't burdened by that nag Sprinter Sacre)!

Report alleged22 December 8, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
not good enough imo that's why duffy
Report RockMonkey December 9, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
Arvika puts me 2nd overall. Be nice to see it rack up big points as not that many of leaders have it. Long,long way to go of course but being in contention means the 'what-ifs' get even more head battering!
Report JOCI Club December 9, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
That's good going!
Report TEN2FOLLOWER December 12, 2013 8:25 PM GMT
Slow start for me.

Still Cross that John's Spirit not in book.  SadCry
Report Mr Mischief December 12, 2013 9:22 PM GMT
Nice work Monkey
Report Mr Mischief December 12, 2013 9:23 PM GMT
I had a feeling Avrika might turn out to be this years Golden Silver.
Did I put him in my lists?
Report TEN2FOLLOWER December 13, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
How much is the pool?

Paper says 70% rather than an amount.

Report sisyphus December 20, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
Kempton throw a £20,000 carrot to Sire De Grugy's connections to tempt them to take on Sprinter Sacre so Henderson lets them know that if you stick to your plans and run at the end of January there wont be any opposition. He does this by finally revealing Simonsig is out for the season.
Report duffy December 20, 2013 3:05 PM GMT
Do you think they were afraid of SDG?Grin
Report ReaseHeath December 20, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
they'll meet at Ascot in Jan anyway all being well, Sprinter's next target after Kempton is the same race as SdG - Victor Chandler Chase, as was.
Report JOCI Club December 21, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
Very disappointing At Fishers Cross has turned from a potential champion to bag of shoite in a few months.
Report REM December 21, 2013 2:37 PM GMT
Yep. Uncomfortable viewing. There's always Cheltenham, but I was expecting a pile of points before then.
Report REM December 26, 2013 7:53 AM GMT
Hoping to get back on track today. Cue card or Silviniaco my best KG result, have Dynaste and AF too. Would like TNO to chip in along with Champ Fever.

Or I'm toast.

Good luck people.
Report JOCI Club December 26, 2013 8:44 AM GMT
Yes. Could be make or break time. Have so many different options though, that I'm not certain what my best resullts would be.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER December 26, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
Well I fancy Menorah today, but a win for him would do nothing for me in the comp.

Long Run, Silvi and Dynaste are in my lists.
Report REM December 26, 2013 3:19 PM GMT
A very pleasing result.

Report JOCI Club December 26, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
Champ Fever disappoints
Report REM December 26, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
Yeah, TNO & CF detracted somewhat, but they still have big points to grab (hopefully) at Chelts.

I also have a Feb list doing well in the monthly prize, with three Irish runners and Sprinter to come...

All I ask for is a bit of hope. Happy
Report JOCI Club December 26, 2013 5:05 PM GMT
Are you Mystic Meg talking about the Feb prize already (can you give me some of the winners in advance please?). Private message only of course!
Report MWDS December 26, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
Does anyone know how many entries there are this year?
Report duffy December 26, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
Not sure, but there's deffo at least 29,673Cry
Report REM December 27, 2013 12:46 AM GMT
Yeah, I can see the future all right. My Feb list is doing surprisingly well for the Dec prize!

Report JOCI Club December 27, 2013 6:30 AM GMT
Hope the weather doesn't claim Leopardstown, like it's in danger of claiming my imminent 2 mile walk to the train station!
Report sisyphus December 27, 2013 3:03 PM GMT
Smelt a rat. Trainer always nervous but he's not the same without Sun at the gate. Wont be seen again
Report REM December 28, 2013 10:31 AM GMT
The wheels have come off...

Report sisyphus December 28, 2013 8:18 PM GMT
Sprinter Sacre, Invictus, At Fishers Cross, Finnegans Rainbow, Close Touch, Simonsig, Rocky Creek, Solwhit, Rajdhani Express, Sanctuare, Flemenstar, Binocular, Silver By Nature, Un Atout, Back In Focus, Countrywide Flame, Chatterbox,
Report sisyphus December 28, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
Some of the wheels
Report JOCI Club December 28, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
Finnegans Rainbow. Shocked
Report sisyphus December 28, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
Rainbows endLaugh
Report JOCI Club December 28, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
I miss Geoffrey, George, Bungle & Zippy.
Report duffy December 28, 2013 11:20 PM GMT
don't forget rod jane and freddieSilly
Report sisyphus December 29, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
Not as much as Spriter Sacre
Report sisyphus December 29, 2013 12:21 AM GMT
Did I hear you sigh a grudge
Report sisyphus December 29, 2013 12:21 AM GMT
In the Twinlight
Report sisyphus December 29, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
Up above the Cheltenham fences Sire De Grugy's gonna fly high
Report sisyphus December 29, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
Felix Yonger ran on Friday @ 2/5 favourite and I thought the jockey gave him too much to do, he finished a fast closing second and has quite probably cost me the  £10,000 monthly prize. I am 7th overall in the monthly
So near and yet, and Winchole storms through to take up the running
Report TEN2FOLLOWER December 29, 2013 7:25 PM GMT
Unlucky.  Sad
Report sisyphus December 31, 2013 2:57 PM GMT
Sprinter Sacre, Invictus, At Fishers Cross, Finnegans Rainbow, Close Touch, Simonsig, Rocky Creek, Solwhit, Rajdhani Express, Sanctuare, Flemenstar, Binocular, Silver By Nature, Un Atout, Back In Focus, Countrywide Flame, Chatterbox, and now add Dynaste to that list, apparently he came back in sore after the KG and is now on the easy list.

Has anyone got any groups still intact.
Report RockMonkey January 1, 2014 10:15 AM GMT
Got to adopt a Zen state of mind or madness could easily ensue. List that was 2nd overall has had Arvika Lig, Champ Fever & S Sacre combine for zero points in last few days for example.
Report JOCI Club January 1, 2014 10:18 AM GMT
January prize up for grabs!

Report REM January 1, 2014 10:26 AM GMT
Yes, step aside for my mighty January lists. First up Oscar Whiskey.

Report TEN2FOLLOWER January 1, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
I won the Jan prize in 2004, with a list that was pretty poor overall.

Maybe I get a 10th Anniversary repeat?
Report JOCI Club January 1, 2014 3:47 PM GMT
Annie Power of to a winning start at least.
Report sisyphus January 2, 2014 4:10 PM GMT
I don't know if you have noticed JOCI but you only have Hurricane fly that is scheduled to run this month coupled with Annie.
A couple of hundred people have coupled Annie/Oscar
A lot of big players going straight to Cheltenham so January runners are going to be scarce, Big Bucks due out
Report JOCI Club January 2, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
There's always Feb. Laugh
Report sisyphus January 3, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
Not without Sir Des Champ
Report sisyphus January 3, 2014 5:11 PM GMT
Cue Card will surely go for the Gold cup now, £120,000 for second, £60,000 for third.
Report sisyphus January 3, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
Everyone's lists must be obliterated
Report REM January 4, 2014 12:43 AM GMT
Sir Des Champs.

Think I'm toast on my main lists, what with At Fishers Cross on the easy list too.

Report sisyphus January 10, 2014 2:49 PM GMT
Solwhit's gone too does it ever end, worse season ever for injuries
Report REM January 10, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
Yep, seldom get a clean run with the top ten horses, but this year it's a bit of a minefield.

The zeros:

No.1 Sprinter Sacre (unwell)
No.4 Sir DC (OUT)
No.7 At FC (gone wrong?)
No.11 Our Conor (still in the hunt)
No.17 Simonsig (OUT)
No.18 Invictus (RETIRED?)
No.19 Big Buck's (on the comeback trail)
No.20 Solwhit (OUT)
No.22 Flemenstar (OUT)
Report TEN2FOLLOWER January 11, 2014 9:30 AM GMT
It's all about Cheltenham though.  Happy
Report JOCI Club January 11, 2014 1:00 PM GMT
Our best list, way back on 294, has Nadiya De La Vega (star horse) going today.
Report sisyphus January 12, 2014 11:30 AM GMT
This competition is no longer all about Cheltenham Ten, not with the introduction of star horses and especially so this year with so many horses out with injury from themost popular selections. Its all about winners where ever they come from..
Report sisyphus January 14, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
All about survival, bad news for you Ten...African Gold out for season
Report sisyphus January 14, 2014 6:10 PM GMT
Most popular
1st    Sprinter Sacre......Easy List
2nd    The New One
3rd    Bobs Worth
4th    Sir Des Champs.......Out
5th    Hurricane Fly
6th    Silviniaco Conti
7th    At Fishers Cross.....Easy List
8th    Champagne Fever
9th    Dynaste.....Easy List
10th    My Tent Or Yours
11th    Our Conor
12th    Cue Card
13th    Zarkandar
14th    Annie Power
15th    Jezki
16th    Al Ferof
17th    Simonsig......Out
18th    Invictus......Out
19th    Big Buck's.....Not seen yet
20th    Solwhit......Out
21st    Rocky Creek
22nd    Flemenstar......Out
23rd    Champion Court
24th    Rajdhani Express.....Easy List
25th    African Gold......Out
26th    Melodic Rendezvous
27th    Oscar Whisky
28th    Lord Windermere
29th    Sire De Grugy
30th    Katenko
31st    Briar Hill
32nd    Un De Sceaux
33rd    Boston Bob
34th    Arvika Ligeonniere
35th    Tidal Bay
36th    Ballynagour.....Easy List
37th    Captain Conan.....Easy List
38th    Don Cossack
39th    Long Run
40th    Defy Logic
41st    Grandouet
42nd    Harry Topper
43rd    Hadrian's Approach
44th    Finian's Rainbow......Out
45th    Unioniste
46th    Rolling Aces
47th    The Liquidator.....Easy List
48th    Sizing Europe
49th    First Lieutenant
50th    Taquin Du Seuil
50th    Nadiya De La Vega
52nd    Shutthefrontdoor
53rd    Quevega.....Not seen yet
54th    Godsmejudge
55th    Roi Du Mee
56th    Oscar Rock
57th    Morning Assembly
58th    Chatterbox......Out
59th    Merry King
60th    Smad Place
61st    Houblon Des Obeaux
62nd    Captain Chris
63rd    Rule The World
64th    Teaforthree
65th    Wonderful Charm
66th    Monksland.....Not seen yet
67th    Close Touch......Out
Report REM January 15, 2014 12:46 AM GMT
Yep, very frustrating/deflating - but great if you avoid stepping in the pile of pooh.

So are we for or against subs?

Or should it be pick 12 and let the best ten score?

It's a real bummer to have spunked my cash a long way before Chelts.
Report REM January 15, 2014 12:47 AM GMT
Yeah, I'm talking about seven to follow and counting...
Report TEN2FOLLOWER January 17, 2014 8:37 PM GMT
Planning for the flat anyone?
Report TEN2FOLLOWER January 24, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
Big day for the World Hurdle tomorrow.
Report REM February 1, 2014 12:22 PM GMT
Still in contention on the main comp, but limping rather.

January lists were a no show. Hoping my February lists perform better. Going out with a whimper I fear.

Anyone else holding out much hope?
Report JOCI Club February 1, 2014 1:12 PM GMT
Report corporal February 2, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
Just about in contention for the main competition but need Tidal Bay to run and win in the Hennessy.
Report aft February 3, 2014 10:28 AM GMT
Floundering in 684th !!!
(So many out - They must reconsider 'ten from twelve' if not allowing subs!)
Report REM February 3, 2014 3:27 PM GMT
Agree that pick 12 score the best 10 would make injuries more bearable.

521st in the main comp & joint 26th in Feb, but suspect it will be short lived.
Report sisyphus February 4, 2014 3:29 PM GMT
Blo0dy hell JOCI we are all suffering with a few injuries here and there, but you have been decimated, Rubi Ball your last straw. very unlucky season for you mate.
Report JOCI Club February 5, 2014 6:38 AM GMT
Yep, thoughts on a relaxed Cheltenham now, focussing on the betting and not my TTF horses!
Report aft February 5, 2014 10:46 AM GMT
And it all started so well!
(Still it's more fun than the lottery!)
Report TEN2FOLLOWER February 10, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
I've got 2 entries in 1550th.
But my lower ones look better from the point of view of the Festival.
Report REM February 25, 2014 12:05 PM GMT
Cue Card! Cry
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 6, 2014 5:48 PM GMT
Not long now.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 15, 2014 10:42 AM GMT
Up to 48th place here
Report REM March 15, 2014 7:35 PM GMT
Nice once TTF. Do you hold out any hope for a prize?
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 16, 2014 1:51 PM GMT
Cheers REM.
Nothing in the National, but maybe a slight chance.
Report JOCI Club March 16, 2014 6:41 PM GMT
My worst ever campaign, and from an early stage!
Report TEN2FOLLOWER March 27, 2014 9:33 PM GMT
Actually I've realised that I do have a National entry in Balthazar King.

But I think he'd have to win and me have a lot of other luck to get anywhere.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 5, 2014 5:53 PM BST
I've finished 192nd with 583.3 points.
Report corporal April 5, 2014 7:36 PM BST
Managed 10th, which is my best by some margin over the years. Gutted when Tidal Bay was brought down, but not sure he would have been able to cope with winner even if he had stood up. Roll on next year.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 5, 2014 8:19 PM BST
Well done Corporal.  That puts you into the prizemoney doesn't it?
Report corporal April 5, 2014 8:30 PM BST
Yes - about £900. Had 9 lines but still a decent return. It was the one line where I decided to omit both Sprinter & Bobs Worth - so my 'wild' entry proved very lucky
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 5, 2014 8:31 PM BST
That's not bad at all.  Cool
Report REM April 7, 2014 9:31 AM BST
Well done on 10th. That must be very pleasing. The winner did well to score so heavily despite carrying Sprinter. The hurdlers proved very reliable apart from the stayers.

530 odd was my best and somewhere in the 800s. Worst list was down in 27,000 zone. Laugh
Report REM April 18, 2014 4:35 PM BST
Just noticed that the flat comp is up on the tote site (I'll leave the honour of starting a new thread to TTF). A rather poor selection of horses at first glance and some confusion over age. Notable omissions such as Adelaide and sure there are many more. Think I'll wait for the jumps to return (only 6 months to go).
Report TEN2FOLLOWER April 20, 2014 1:41 PM BST
Will do REM.  Cool
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