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mary hinge
14 Sep 13 18:16
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Ascription was very impressive there, soft ground virtually guaranteed at Newmarket, has to go well

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By:
sintonian
When: 14 Sep 13 20:18
No way is Soft ground guaranteed at HQ.
By:
saddo
When: 15 Sep 13 17:48
He's in both the Cambridgeshire at Newmarket and the Challenge Cup at Ascot and I'm leaning towards the latter with him. Will (Buick) got off him and said that a stiff seven furlongs would suit and Ryan (Moore) said the same thing after he rode him recently at Haydock. His owner is keen on trying him at seven furlongs as well so that's probably where he'll go.(H Palmer).
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 15 Sep 13 18:58
Is the going often soft at Newmarket? I don't know where to check, but I have the idea that it's rarely
deeper than G-S and rarely harder than G-F.
By:
jair1970
When: 15 Sep 13 23:16
FWIW (ie not a lot) I know for a fact that Ascription was very much expected yesterday, obvious now, and I only found this out after, so f-all use to me but hey, must have more to give.
By:
laynplay
When: 16 Sep 13 21:25
ascription will need deep ground and if he gets it is less than certain to stay...the one I like is QUEENSBERRY RULES of haggas's who is currently 25/1 with 365 ew 1'2'3'4'5...if only they hadn't closed my account Sad.
  stayed on well at ascot over a mile...then dropped to 7 furlongs ???? then stayed on at york over a mile when murtagh rode...the ground was pretty quick that day...the handicap mark has been nicely protected and the pedigree is crying out for a sterner test that the cambridgeshire will offer....the horses only entry.
By:
malteseedddie
When: 18 Sep 13 17:56
Clon Brulee? Big price, not sure it will run etc but if it does the exchange seems quite a decent odds...Any thoughts?
By:
jair1970
When: 18 Sep 13 18:53
Hey lay n play.

The day Queensberry Rules lost at Royal Ascot I thought to myself 'Cambridgeshire'. Totally agree about the weird run over 7, looked like it was just for experience to me, Haggas has said he reckons it's got a big one in it. 

Main concern at the minute is lack of interest.  I took 25s ages ago thinking it'd get punted, so far, nothing, but yeah if it turns up with a job jockey on i'd be more than hopeful.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 19 Sep 13 06:52
im on qr too. backed it at York too  and thought was a bizarre ride ( esp from murtagh )
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Sep 13 11:58
Willie Haggas has 7 entries in the race currently so it will be interesting if Queensberry Rules is his only runner.
By:
laynplay
When: 20 Sep 13 20:59
quite a few at the head of the market have been winning and going up in the weights....the old fox haggas has cleverly avoided penalties whilst keeping the horse ticking over....like this one as much as any 25/1 shot I have ever backed....just hope on the day the race is not too draw biased.
By:
saddo
When: 20 Sep 13 22:02
I was very keen on the improving Educate, but that has gone up 4lb for the group 2 run which is a shame. Got a few quid on at decent odds on here in the hope that it would not run at Newbury but haven't topped up at 16s yet.
By:
ashleigh
When: 21 Sep 13 12:25
anyone know if yeager has to win today to get in the field?
By:
saddo
When: 21 Sep 13 15:26
I would think so, ash. 48 have tried in the last 11 years with 1 winning.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Sep 13 19:13
Yeager is a fecking donk. Needs a labotomy.
By:
mary hinge
When: 21 Sep 13 19:32
Rockalong very eyecatching today
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Sep 13 20:00
Clive Cox says Haafaguinea likely to run next week if he comes out of his Newbury win well enough.
By:
judorick
When: 21 Sep 13 21:33
just starting my analysis, will post a short list when I'm done
By:
judorick
When: 21 Sep 13 23:48
bloody loads of entries! I'm only on the 'Q's. Sheesh
By:
BJG
When: 22 Sep 13 00:00
Have a shortlist of 5 - Queensbury Rules and Ethedaam heading the list

2 more to sub in if soft ground tho Plain
By:
judorick
When: 22 Sep 13 00:20
I'm only at the 'eliminate those that cannot win' stage now, that's a long list! Fingers crossed the list of those who can win will be short!
By:
judorick
When: 22 Sep 13 01:41
so I dismissed 105 of the initial entry as being incapable of winning this race. Once 5 day decs are in I will then go through those that remain in the race that are not on the initial dismissal list and start eliminating more.
By:
Fabulous
When: 22 Sep 13 08:44
Prince of Johanne, or Sam Sharp for me at the moment, no doubt bet another even if they line up.
By:
nasser
When: 22 Sep 13 13:54
Anyone know if Fury is injured? I have heard reports that he has been ruled out for the season but cant seem to find anything online. Think he is worth a punt if the ground is soft.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 22 Sep 13 14:41
Jacks Revenge at the prices for me.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 22 Sep 13 14:42
Dry and warm weather for the next 7 days so absolutely no chance of Soft - fast side of good I'd say.
By:
BlazingWalker
When: 23 Sep 13 10:35
Really fancy Short Squeeze for this , anybody got any news about him .

Can see some of those in front of him in the betting coming out if they don,t get much rain even so Short Squeeze looks a horse who is progressing just at the right time for this and will win whatever runs imo.
By:
BJG
When: 23 Sep 13 10:56
^^ from 26th August

An impressive winner at York on Friday, Palmer has been informed that Short Squeeze will be going up 11lb in the handicap tomorrow.

Usually a trainer would not greet that sort of a rise with any great relish - but Palmer actually wanted a pound or two more which would in all probability guarantee him a place in the prestigious handicap.

Now Palmer is left with the difficult decision over whether to run before the big race to pick up a penalty.

"Short Squeeze will go up 11lb, I rang the handicapper asking for 12 but he wouldn't budge," said the Newmarket handler.

"It is unusual asking for more, but 11 takes him up to 93 which wouldn't have got him in the Cambridgeshire last year but it would have the year before, so it will be touch and go.

"He's a big-framed horse and is going to be better next year, so I won't be asking too much more of him as he's had a few runs already.

"He's better with four weeks between his races so I'm loath to run him again to pick up a penalty because if he wins it will probably cost him his chance in the Cambridgeshire as he won't be fresh enough.

"The Silver Cambridgeshire is obviously an option, and that has only been won by three-year-olds, so we'll just have to see."



Dont think he'll get in myself, will need a lot to come out
By:
BlazingWalker
When: 23 Sep 13 12:15
Thanks BJG , obviously this is the race Hugo wants , just needs to make the cut now.
By:
BlazingWalker
When: 23 Sep 13 12:18
Wouldn't want a very high draw either.
By:
judorick
When: 23 Sep 13 14:11
I have finalised my shortlist and out of the confirmed 122 I reckon I have narrowed it down to 8

I have not yet drawn any conclusions and I will be doing the whole process again to make sure I have not messed up and missed some that should be on my list
By:
BJG
When: 23 Sep 13 14:23
1    270305    Sandagiyr14    5    9-10    Saeed bin Suroor53     107    113    116
2     210445    Area Fifty One14    5    9-8    Richard Fahey45     105    106    114
3    201026    Belgian Bill13      5    9-7    George Baker44     104    99    114
4     010035    Educate35    4    9-7    Ismail Mohammed100    Johnny Murtagh     104    105    116
6     861595    Field Of Dream21      6    9-6    Jamie Osborne100     103    108    117
5     4-0183    Tandem21    4    9-6    D K Weld50     103    86    112
7     020100    Prince Of Johanne37      7    9-6    Tom Tate100    Graham Lee     103    108    118
9     626121    Ascription14 4x    4    9-5    Hugo Palmer67     102    103    122
8     728614    Strictly Silver35      4    9-5    Alan Bailey83     102    95    117
10     61315-    Bronze Angel350      4    9-4    Marcus Tregoning57     101    98    116
11    670915    Marcret28      6    9-3    James Unett     100    106    114
12     406894    Two For Two7      5    9-2    David O´Meara33     99    104    115
13    793242    Arsaadi21      4    9-2    William Haggas42     99    97    117
14     511123    Robert The Painter7    5    9-2    David O´Meara33     99    111    114
16     10-400    King´s Warrior77    6    9-1    Peter Chapple-Hyam50     98    95    117
17     301101    Chancery36    5    9-1    David O´Meara33     98    102    116
18     750-40    Fury101      5    9-1    William Haggas42     98    96    116
19     226107    Danchai28      4    9-1    William Haggas42     98    100    117
15     634702    Chapter Seven7      4    9-1    Stuart Williams56     98    117    120
20    21-017    Nine Realms21    4    9-0    William Haggas42     97    108    117
21     31261    Sam Sharp35      7    9-0    Ian Williams63     97    102    116
22     464435    Proud Chieftain16    5    9-0    Clifford Lines     97    90    115
23     281022    Tha´ir16    3    9-0    Saeed bin Suroor53     102    96    118
24     10431    Levitate7 4x    5    9-0    John Quinn55     97    95    113
26     41104    The Rectifier7    6    8-13    Seamus Durack     96    113    117
25     421492    Gabrial The Great14    4    8-13    Luca Cumani69     96    109    116
27     081003    Captain Bertie33    5    8-13    Jane Chapple-Hyam14     96    110    115
29    112603    King George River36      3    8-12    Alan Bailey83     100    102    116
32     3-1051    Haafaguinea7 4x    3    8-12    Clive Cox     —    98    113
31     864020    Dance And Dance27      7    8-12    Ed Vaughan50     95    105    118
28    113306    Queensberry Rules37      3    8-12    William Haggas42    Ryan Moore     100    107    115
30     701225    Red Avenger36      3    8-12    Ed Dunlop60     100    108    115
33     293312    Forgive21      4    8-11    Richard Hannon70     94    111    120
34    49153    Code Of Honor34    3    8-11    Henry Candy67     99    85    117
35     543121    Top Notch Tonto21 4x    3    8-11    Brian Ellison40     99    112    124
36     743411    Graphic21 4x    4    8-11    William Haggas42     94    102    114
38     12-124    Seek Again21      3    8-10    John Gosden70    James Doyle     98    92    112
41     221311    Pacific Heights17 4x    4    8-10    Brian Ellison40     93    102    117
37     116570    Boonga Roogeta49      4    8-10    Peter Charalambous100    Rosie Jessop3     93    108    117
39     586234    Jack´s Revenge35    5    8-10    George Baker44     93    108    117
40     422133    Tres Coronas77    6    8-10    David Barron40     93    109    117
42     219152    Butterfly McQueen24    3    8-9    Andrew Balding63    Oisin Murphy5     97    99    114
43    141235    Frontier Fighter116      5    8-8    David O´Meara     —    113    117
44     2-1108    Niceofyoutotellme49    4    8-8    Ralph Beckett     —    103    117
46    161108    Whispering Warrior28    4    8-8    David Simcock50     91    89    116
47     0292-    Credit Swap329      8    8-8    Michael Wigham     91    98    117
48    322211    Ocean Tempest9 7x    4    8-8    John Ryan75     91    110    119
45     209992    Beaumont´s Party9    6    8-8    Brian Ellison     —    103    121
49     619633    Bancnuanaheireann13      6    8-7    Michael Appleby70     90    95    118
50     290461    Forgotten Hero14 4x    4    8-7    Charles Hills73     90    101    119
51     846931    Hi There9 4x    4    8-7    Richard Fahey45     90    91    117
89     070014    Swiftly Done9 4x      6    8-6    Declan Carroll30     89    112    117
83     525311    Short Squeeze36    3    8-6    Hugo Palmer67     94    107    117
103    821100    Yeager7      3    8-6    Jeremy Noseda29     94    104    114
85     924155    Spirit Of The Law9      4    8-5    Richard Fahey45     88    91    116
70     73025    Princess Of Orange50    4    8-5    Rae Guest22     88    97    115
56    146237    Machete Mark36      3    8-5    G M Lyons100     93    104    116
50     079006    Justonefortheroad7    7    8-5    Richard Fahey45     88    95    120
39     504312    Gabrial´s Kaka21      3    8-4    Richard Fahey45     92    115    120
81     978610    Shavansky21    9    8-4    Rod Millman60     87    105    114
98     12241    Tuscania10 4x      5    8-4    Lucy Wadham100     87    86    116
1     202604    Abbey Vale14    3    8-4    G M Lyons100     92    75    111
55     525493    Lord Aeryn42    6    8-4    Richard Fahey45     87    109    119
54     23/21    Llanarmon Lad22 4x    4    8-4    Brian Ellison40     87    101    104
6     126228    Aussie Reigns16    3    8-4    William Knight71     92    85    117
48     130461    Ingleby Angel49      4    8-3    David O´Meara33     86    105    117
91     60014    Tellovoi31      5    8-2    Ian Williams63     85    110    115
2     345156    Albaqaa9      8    8-2    P J O´Gorman     85    102    116
94    36220    Tigers Tale84    4    8-2    Roger Teal     85    115    121
45     36505    Hefner28    4    8-2    William Jarvis     85    104    118
47     420736    Icebuster22    5    8-2    Rod Millman60     85    102    118
59     621141    Morpheus44    3    8-1    Lady Cecil86     89    110    116
86     25-400    Stevie Thunder42    8    8-0    Ian Williams63     83    93    115
41     225164    George Cinq15    3    8-0    Michael Bell47     88    108    115
25     219626    Classic Colori47      6    8-0    David O´Meara33     83    112    121
14     3-1145    Breden15      3    7-13    John Gosden70     87    99    115
43     28142    Gworn22      3    7-13    Ed Dunlop60     87    104    117
101     402751    Uppercut22    5    7-12    Stuart Kittow40     81    114    119
32    611141    Dream Walker9 4x    4    7-12    Brian Ellison40     81    103    118
62     161436    Noble Gift10    3    7-12    William Knight71     86    86    113
87     067700    St Moritz32    7    7-12    David O´Meara33     81    105    124
18     480026    Calaf21    5    7-12    Brian Ellison40     81    101    115
75     250266    Royal Prize21    3    7-11    Ralph Beckett62     85    101    115
21     02135    Cashpoint62    8    7-11    Ian Williams63     80    99    116
67     693103    Party Royal21    3    7-10    Mark Johnston40     84    109    114
95     203126    Tight Lipped85      4    7-10    James Eustace     79    94    113
9     33420    Bank On Me20      4    7-10    Philip McBride100     79    99    113
79    904422    Scottish Star21      5    7-9    James Eustace     78    95    111
65    54410    On My Own18      4    7-9    J W Hills67     78    97    111
24     114560    Christmas Light20      6    7-9    Brian Ellison40     78    107    114
31     131635    Dolphin Rock32    6    7-9    Brian Ellison40     78    104    112
84    351323    Silver Dixie28      3    7-8    Jeremy Noseda29     82    104    111
12     23-123    Bishop´s Castle20      4    7-7    Unknown     76    107    113
27     000588    Copperwood10      8    7-6    Mark Johnston40     75    84    104
63     434476    Ocean Applause10    3    7-5    John Ryan75     79    98    107
7     618310    Azma10    3    7-4    Conrad Allen     78    98    106
82     236673    Sheila´s Buddy15    4    7-4    J S Moore33     73    104    110
78     821114    Save The Bees20      5    7-3    Declan Carroll30     72    100    107
58     381884    Mister Marcasite8    3    7-1    Mel Brittain     75    70    99
20     504700    Carragold62      7    6-13    Mel Brittain     68    80    98
68     681122    Pelmanism17      6    6-12    Brian Ellison40     67    99    104
15     21-056    Brockfield156    7    6-12    Mel Brittain     67    87    102
100    9-8217    Unison14    3    6-10    Peter Makin50     70    58    99




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By:
judorick
When: 23 Sep 13 14:31
short list down to seven, one did not make 5 day decs
By:
judorick
When: 23 Sep 13 14:33
was Haafaguinea supplemented? was not in the original entry
By:
BJG
When: 23 Sep 13 16:12
He was in original entries
By:
judorick
When: 23 Sep 13 16:17
dunno how I missed him then coz he was on neither my dismissal list nor my long short list

hmm? anyway, back on the short list now
By:
BJG
When: 23 Sep 13 16:22
Definitely in it cuz i av em saved d day they came out - wont put em up on here cuz that will lead to all sorts of confusion Grin
By:
judorick
When: 23 Sep 13 16:24
no I have a spreadsheet of the original entry and he's not on it... hmm confused now and there was this quote on Saturday after he won

"HAAFAGUINEA, was never far off the leaders. He picked up well in the closing stages, won a shade cosily and is a handicapper on the up. The step up in trip brought about significant improvement and there are more races to be won with him. He´s in the Silver Cambridgeshire on Friday"
By:
BJG
When: 23 Sep 13 16:42
Have to b entered in the Camb to get into that - its like the ayr gold/silver cups

Ones that dont get in the Camb get in the silver one etc
By:
judorick
When: 23 Sep 13 16:54
yes must have messed up, anyway he's back in my analysis but I don't think he wants quick going
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