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gart
03 Feb 13 19:46
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if flemenstar is a non stayer and faces testing ground
and sir des champs now has to face more testing ground which does not
help his jumping
then
with tidal bay out and no first lieutenant
you'd think that it was a shoe in
but they didnt win last time
and the conditions do not look easier.

4/1 ON the pair.
not for me...
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Report jasey February 3, 2013 8:21 PM GMT
Yes SDC will be new fav for the gold cup next sunday evening
Report FatoteSport February 4, 2013 11:04 AM GMT
Looking forward to seeing the BOG back over fences.
Report buddeliea February 4, 2013 12:41 PM GMT
Albertas Run
Bog Warrior
China Rock
Flemenstar
Joncol
Kauto Stone
Mail de Bievre
Pandorama
Prince De Beauchene
Quel Esprit
Quito De La Roque
Roi Du Mee
Seabass
Sir Des Champs
Sizing Europe
Tidal Bay
Report bluebirdfan February 4, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
I can't see any reason why SDC should beat Flemenstar
Report gart February 4, 2013 2:22 PM GMT
1     3-F111    Bog Warrior
2     5841-5    China Rock
3     11-113    Flemenstar
4     7-3523    Jonco   
5     1113-0    Quel Esprit   
6     511112    Roi Du Mee
7     11113-    Seabass
8     111-24    Sir Des Champs
Report gart February 4, 2013 2:37 PM GMT
bog warrior has beaten flemenstar over fences could win if jumps proprerly;
and if gets into a rhythm he can.
flemenstar should have won last time . either dogged it or didnt stay
sir des champs runs as though better ground suits.
the rest are good horses that should handle the conditions.

the faves  have better form (pounds not stones).
but if its a slog with emphasis on accurate jumping as well...
i'm inclined to price the faves up as 70%, coupled with heavy ground forecast
and several possible pace setters.
Report sintonian February 4, 2013 4:14 PM GMT
is BW a definite runner then? Listening to Davy Russell after his last win he seemed pretty sure the World Hurdle was next as the horse does not like jumping fences.
Report gart February 4, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
personally i think bog warrior is in two minds when he jumps
but my word he can leap!
i think he may not run but its a lot of prize money
and he's won when complteting bar the end of last season
which was very bad.
cheltenham on likely good ground or here?
think they will chance it coming here one more time
because he's built for chasing and deep ground.
school him and send him chasing again
i think they have to bite the bullet with him
school him over fences and take him chasing again.
not going to win a stayers hurdle is he really.
bog horse innit.
Report Millerracing67 February 5, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
Hope the ground dries out a bit come Sunday.
Cant have Flemenstar as a Gold Cup horse, looked a non-stayer to me last time, out on his feet in the last 100yds. Looks the best 2m4f horse in training tho.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y February 5, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
GOING: after a settled weekend the

Hurdle track is SOFT, YIELDING TO SOFT IN PLACES

Chase track is SOFT TO HEAVY, SOFT IN PLACES

FORECAST: Strong winds with sunny spells and chance of passing showers.



very windy day today with the odd shower not coming too much
Report Millerracing67 February 5, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
Sounds promising for better ground, fingers X.
And i think Leopardstown dries up well.
Fingers X for some g/s come Sunday.
For Sir Des Champs, that would be ideal, along with a gd pace all the way.
He is the only Gold Cup horse in that field imo.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y February 5, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
It's on Saturday Millerracing
Report gart February 5, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
trainer has stated that flemenstar would prefer NOT to have
bad ground. ie wants nice jumping ground or wet.
however much wind there is, i think it will still be winter ground
that will take some getting through.
anyway i'm talking it up!
as i think that is key to opposing the two faves.
Report flannybhoy. February 5, 2013 7:20 PM GMT
Evening all , I still think Flemenstar will win and agree with bluebird I see no reason why SDC will overcome him this time . I also think Quito DLR will run well , good luck all whatever you bet .
Report jasey February 5, 2013 8:22 PM GMT
Flemenstar will lead,a clear round for SDC will see him power past flemenstar
Report flannybhoy. February 5, 2013 9:39 PM GMT
No QDLR , so Flemenstar will be my only bet , good luck all
Report reveley February 6, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
just a statistic for you, in the last 12 times Mullins has entered the hennessey, he was won it with one of his horses on 8 of those occasions. i think the distance will suit sir des champs better on the day and will be backing accordingly.
Report Haemolysis February 6, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
This one has really got me torn. Have backed both at bigger prices for she GC, but prob left it too late to have a sensible bet on either in the Hennessy.  Big flemenstar fan, but fear that if SDC gets his jumping together, 3 miles will find flemenstar out. Again.
Report jasey February 6, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
Lay Flemmy in Hennessey if he gets beat he may not run in GC so your bets down,if he wins, his GC price will tumble
Report vinnie_roe February 6, 2013 11:37 PM GMT
I like china rock at 16/1 eway, 3 places. He travelled real well in the lexus, and should be much fitter this time.
Report Millerracing67 February 9, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
Non stayer (Flemenstar) "LISTEN" Shocked
Report Seebird February 9, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
Flemenstar would make super burgersMischief
Report jasey February 9, 2013 7:29 PM GMT
He has proved he stays,the cream just stay better
Report Millerracing67 February 13, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
Staying 3miles is 1 thing (and only just at that (Flemenstar)
But my point was (jasey) that he is not a Gold Cup horse (Flem) & he never will be.
Report jasey February 13, 2013 11:55 PM GMT
Agree (miller).Maybe not a Cheltenham horse at any distance
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