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King George - Antepost thoughts
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With this news I've taken a little 14s re SDC
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Hope they reconsider Silviniaco Conti for this...
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Big Buck's likely out for season too, WTF...something weird gone on an Ditcheat!
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Silviniaco Conti not in it anyway.
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Good point...
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Gutted
Went into ladbrokes to bet Cue Card tother day and it was single manned ( Womanned ) Dozy bint took forwver with line of customers then trying to find "WHERE" it was running I gave up and fukkked off as I was on double yellows, now it's 9/2  My fault I know but fukking single manning with soppy tarts thet wouldn't know the King George from the FA Cup Not backing now at 9/2, whoooooosh , this gaggas up now |
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On Kauto Stone at 30/1 :)
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KING GEORGE
SIR DES CHAMPS 12/1 @366 3 WIN 1 PLACE 1/4 odds i have no clue if it is coming over but prepared to pay to find out |
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Is this post for the NH thread besty?
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Cheers Roo
 placing it there now! |
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Massive blow for the race yesterday,first its reported that Sizing Europe aint coming over and then the news re Al Ferof.Those 2 horses were the ones i was most interested to see.
All of a sudden the race looks a lot less appealing to me,although maybe SDC comes over-hope so. Looking at the betting last night i just could not find a horse i wanted to bet on!! Not sure i will bother with a bet to be honest. Only consolation is that i have not played antepost. |
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I know Kempton is a flat track and it drains well but I can see this being the slowest ground the race has been run on for many a year. Weather forecast is um, wet. Unless the race is very tactical, I would swerve the horses of questionable stamina. Haven't had a bet yet and might end up backing one on the day by default - if there is only one in the race that will stay!
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I have just backed Long Run and feel very dirty for doing so.
It was clear he was not hard ridden last time out, and he'll almost certainly improve for it. The jockey gives me the sh1ts. But the going is Gs,s with a potential 20mm more to arrive. So at best it will remain Gs,S in places. Which is pretty close to soft. I don't mind backing LR under these circs. |
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just a case of backing the only horse that's won a grade 1 this season imo and you can still get double figures now rubys riding.
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don't you think there's a chance that ruby will stay in Ireland to ride Arvika?
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he's already said he is riding Kauto Stone I think.
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If I was to bet it probably would be Long Run by default but I also did that in the Gold Cup and it didn't turn out too well!
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@sintonian, yes I had read this too and PN said as much on timeform radio yesterday. Interesting to see the money come for the TGB and the trainer thinks he is in good form. The one horse I really don't fancy is Cue Card which seems to have been one of the best horses backed. Couldn't put my finger on exactly why just always thought the horse was below top class over both hurdles and fences, I know the form in just losing to Bob's worth looks fantastic now but the jockey doesn't inspire confidence at all.
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fallen a i would argue that cue cards form is actually top drawer ,beating al ferof 8l in the champ bumper,thrashing for non stop giving him weight ,only horse to give sprinter a race ,and giving 7lb to bobs worth and btn nose after looking all over the winner is top class form although trip and jockey raise qestion marks !
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Superb and informative thread considering we're all backing against each other! Kauto Stone for me.
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Yep,nowt wrong with Cue Cards form,problem is its at shorter distances,and i would agree about his jockey Foyles.
Anyway his price is ridiculous now with the doubt about him staying,and on heavyish ground by the looks of it. |
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What's the news with runners? Captain Chris and Finians are big here compared to the bookies.
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They have both been confirmed runners by the trainers Pete but I guess their odds are drifting due to the predicted ground.
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The ground is clearly going to be softish, but yesterday they said 25mm of rain between now and the
race - that's bugger all. We get that before breakfast most days in Ireland. I was going to say there are 3 horses I can't lay, but as I wrote, two of them got bet! The prices had obviously got too big to ignore. Anyone want 16.5 Captain Chris?? |
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Soft ground at Kempton but Clifford confident
BY DAVID BAXTER 8:55AM 20 DEC 2012 OVERNIGHT rain changed the going at Kempton to soft, but clerk of the course Barney Clifford is confident that next Wednesday's William Hill King George VI meeting will take place as planned. Heavy rain hit the country on Wednesday night, with Exeter forced to abandon its card for Thursday, as 31mm of rain left the track waterlogged. At Kempton, 21mm fell, changing the going to soft (from good to soft, soft in places). Further rain is forecast, but Clifford is happy with the state of the ground. Speaking on Thursday morning, he said: "We had 21mm overnight and it's still raining. The ground is soft and I will walk the course again this afternoon. "We're due another five millimetres today, then it's due to be dry Friday, then another band of rain moves in Saturday night in to Sunday, with ten millimetres forecast. "It's pretty soft, but I don't expect any problems at this stage. We're perfectly raceable and the course is on free draining soil and copes well with wet conditions." |
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@Foyles... as I say I can't put my finger on why I don't think the horse is going to run well. My worry would be the ground, jockey and trip which I think is enough question marks for 5.8 to be much too short. I agree though the form stands up on a pure weights and measures review
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This race is starting to confuse the hell out of me.
I am starting to come around to the fact that Cue Card could skip through the ground with everything else willing to go a steady pace in the ground. Then still travelling well 3 out Cue Card quickens away and keeps on well to win. I will end up laying it for a place on the day  |
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i agree the value has long gone but i am on at much bigger prices so may be pocket talking ,if the going is good to soft i would be confident ! on heavy then its a case of who is less inconvienienced ,captain chris won on heavy and he has the same sire as cue card so a bit of hope there but clutching at straws really if its heavy .
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Henry de Bromhead @HenrydeBromhead
We've definitely ruled out the King George for Sizing Europe due to the ground. The Dial A Bet chase and Lexus chase are now his two options |
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Foyles - how much do you want on CC?
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Sorry Capt Chris, not the other CC
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peter i have enough on cue card and i dont fancy captain chris !
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Roger that Foyles. Just touting for business. Can't lay 17.5 and it seems a bit of a big price!
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For how long will the market close at 12pm?
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Normally opens relatively quickly, maybe an hour or so
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Junior supplemented!
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someone beat me to it. Very interesting decision, they have obviously taken a view there is a potential significant number of potential non-stayers and have a proven heavy ground horse to go to war with. Glad I haven't laid a penny on this one as it could be particularly interesting for a place
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Still 33+ despite the £10,000 cost of supplementing.
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Cue Cards price is too short now 9/2, have backed at much bigger price, will be having saver on Long Run by default as think he will outstay this field given conditions will be very testing think he may end up 7/4 chance.
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this race will ruin a few horses imo
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