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Every jock gave a different going description after the 1st
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After riding in the opener Frankie Dettori said: "It is good ground" but Robert Winston said: "It is on the easy side of good," David Allan said: "It is good to soft," Eddie Ahern said: "It is loose" and Silvestre de Sousa said: "There is a lot of give, it is a bit sticky and dead."
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BOOOOOOM What a ride, Buick. And what a tough mare, that is.
WD all Ortensia backers. ![]() |
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Bah Humbug
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Unreal win that....unreal.
Hamish going so quickly on the far side helped her...nice target (infact the only one) to run down. |
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Well done Ortensia backers, I don't think anyone can disagree the Aussies have the upper hand where sprinters are concerned, a 7yo too.
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wd all, all about it the last 2 weeks and changed me mind
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Glad to have had a winner having endured a baron run.
Wd all who kept the faith. Haydock next I presume. |
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Ortensia got her lead out ,had plenty of room and the ground wasn't soft enough to blunt her turn of foot. Bit annoyed dumping
half the bet ,but a thrilling victory none the less. |
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Billies went 7/2 for Haydock, now 3/1, which is the general price. Trainer has reported her all fine and well since the win.
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At that price I'd want to take her on over 6F. On quicker ground BB would come right into it but with the summer we are having far more likely to have 'soft' in the going
8/1 seriously understimates the chance of Mayson ( generous price because not a 'top' trainer and 'fluke' win ) though again I wouldn't want to be a backer yet until ground conditions can be assessed |
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Mayson does not have an earthly unless there is Soft in the going description,imo. He just handles it so well and can quicken out of it.
I dont really see why the likes of Excelebration and Power are in the betting. They surely wont run. Strong Suit is the interesting one but his price of 10/1 is not quite tempting enough atm. Ortensia has been strongest at the end of her races, so think the extra furlong will suit. She has won over 7f in Aus. This will be another battle between her and BB imo but no interest betting them for the moment. |
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I agree sint , no point having a punt yet until ground conditions are known. Mayson and soft ground and 8/1 would be very interesting.
If anything I think they found out as much lto by letting him bowl along and that contributed to the improved showing. Plus as a 4yo he still has scope for improvement. Agree on quick ground Ortensia and BB would be too fast for him |
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Roo - the racing manager to owner of SS and Pear Secret has confirmed they will both run. I dont like Pearl Secret yet, think he is not ready for Group1 yet, next year he will be. So i've taken some 10/1 on SS.
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Good luck sint? Personally not sure SS is a group 1 horse but if he is, like BB, he needs quick ground imo
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Sorry the ? was a mistake
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Any thoughts on Starspangledbanner? clearly needed the run in ireland, will Aiden have it ready because if he does just about the form pick over 6f? Also think Ortensia wouldnt be such a sure thing over 6f as they dont go as quick and she seems best to me over 5 off a rattling fast pace
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Saw Mayson was 10s with Joes yesterday and was going to invest today - now cut to 6s
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You do it.
Interesting tweet from Paul Messara last night. He posted a photo of oddschecker with the betting for Haydock. Confident or what! |
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Mayson wont win anyway.
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Fancy a match bet with SS for a virtual pint?
I think someone needs to let Paul Messara know what weather is possible in the NW of England |
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He's been quite bullish on Twitter all season to be fair to him.
Ortensia is not as ground dependant as the likes of BB and SS. Her form is in the book in that respect. Match bet with SS & Mayson Roo? |
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Yep.
We might just be having a match bet on the ground but just think Mayson has a better chance of beating SS on good ground than the other way round on soft going |
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Best wait for the ground Roo. There should be match bets available with the books and on here by raceday.
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No sint not actually interested in an actual bet as such
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