Eclipse - So you think - Will he be declared to run?

Estimated % chance of not running 6% (picks up an injury/illness  or very soft ground)
      "         "   of running    94%

They have nothing to lose.
If he gets beat he will end up with a "Canford Cliffs" type injury
If he wins alls well

altho someone just put up on main forum hes a N/R lame!

SYT - OUT (Not for the reasons given above though!)

least surprising thing since it rained yesterday....when everyone fell for AOB's spin at Ascot, a defection always seemed likely imo

really,Duncan? I hope you layed the balls off it at Evens.

I read this market perfectly (Unlike next tottenham manager market). You win some you loose some!

The Coral Eclipse opposition is very good - Coolmore couldn't risk him loosing just before retiring him to stud at Australia.

They have to give an acceptable excuse like lameness.

DYOR

LAST YEAR'S hero So You Think has been denied the chance to win Saturday's Coral-Eclipse for a second time after he was found to be lame in his stable on Thursday morning.

Amazing how these things happen on the morning of declaration
Uncanny innit.

Bizarre - maybe for once Ballydoyle are telling the truth

lame thursday morning, yet drifted on here from around 1.80 to 2.12 since tuesday

ps i had inkling he wouldnt run, and pissed off now that i didnt bloody lay him

With regard to AP bets...if he's declared in the 'day of the race' market, will people get their dough back?
Doesn't it matter at all that he's not in the declarations?

Just how low a price did he hit in the win AND place markets?

He aint declared in day of race market. Even if he was and he didnt run youve done your dough in the antepost market.
Lowest was around 1.8 ish in win market

Thanks Geoff - ante-post is a minefield for backers

It is for layers if theyve laid anything other than SYT!!

Im on Farhh from last week. Drawn stall 10. Dont really see the issue with that.

Nathaniel making his seasonal debut and is better over 12f imo.

Bonfire has the handy 3yo allowance but not convinced he is a Group 1 horse

Cityscape big chance if returning to Dubai form.

Crackerjack King no idea about ..

Monterosso good but better on synthetic ..

Im with the class act Nathaniel.
Just need a bit of rain.

Monterosso is far too big in my eyes. My thoughts:

1) Stuffed the previous hot pot favourite and subsequent 2 x Group 1 winner So You Think at Meydan on World Cup night (Game on Dude & Royal Delta also won since).

2) Don't buy that he will need the run. Was pulled out of the Brigadier Gerard & the Coronation Cup at the last minute - I think he will be further forward than most people think.

3) Don't buy that he is no good on turf. Notably won the Dubai City of Gold (Grp 2) & King Edward VII (Grp 2) in his 3yo & 4yo careers. Had earlier won Handicaps at Newmarket & Ripon.

4) Has decent Group 1 record (Contested 4 times, 1 win, 1 place & 2 unplaced efforts). This is better than some in the field.

5) Can sit handily and will be suited by the stiff track & likely ground conditions.

All in all, think he offers some tasty value at the odds.

Also expect Farhh to run well but he is too short.

Good luck all, looks like a cracking race.

And Stoute took Charlton House out because he knew it could not beat So you think

Sir, I dont follow?

Very dodgy imo . The % chance of an injury happening 3% the % chance of it suddenly coming up on the morning of declarations 3%. 33/1 x 33/1 = 1089/1 double.
% chance of the horse actually being lame enough not to be able to run 0.01 % (if you look hard enough you'll find a problem with any horse).
  Good call propunter.

must have pulled a muscle turning over in his sleep.
Fancy that happening just hours b4 declaration.

the great coolmore empire , ,   dont worry the great camelot will win the leger, triple crown winner and acclaimed as a true great