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30 May 12
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Hi everybody, I had a look at the Derby field and in my opinion it looks a poor one which is perhaps why Camelot is so short as lets face it whilst he has won well he has hardly beaten anything of note upto now, whilst it is likely that he will win if he stays with a group one win under his belt it has to be worth a pop at getting him beat or at the very least getting one placed.
Witht his in mind what is Father of Science doing at 200 plus on betfair, lets face it he has only had two runs and won the last one really well albeit a maiden, he was also handling Chester really well which wont do him any harm when it comes to Epsom.
This horse is bred for the trip he is as are most o brien horses a Gallileo but he is also out of a Darshaan mare so he is going to have no problem witht he trip, this would be further indicated by the way he finished his last run going on at the finish over 1m2f and on soft ground.
The trainer has a knack each year of getting big priced horses in the frame and also going close to winning, I was robbed last year as I was on Treasure Beach and got done on the line, but he has also had other big priced horses in the derby frame and also gone close, theres a load just look back.
In short he is lightly raced Father Of Science and bred for this, will improve from his last run and could be a lot better on better ground, he is a crazy price in my opinion and it wont last long with the day of the race market upto tomorrow.
best wishes with whatever you back
Witht his in mind what is Father of Science doing at 200 plus on betfair, lets face it he has only had two runs and won the last one really well albeit a maiden, he was also handling Chester really well which wont do him any harm when it comes to Epsom.
This horse is bred for the trip he is as are most o brien horses a Gallileo but he is also out of a Darshaan mare so he is going to have no problem witht he trip, this would be further indicated by the way he finished his last run going on at the finish over 1m2f and on soft ground.
The trainer has a knack each year of getting big priced horses in the frame and also going close to winning, I was robbed last year as I was on Treasure Beach and got done on the line, but he has also had other big priced horses in the derby frame and also gone close, theres a load just look back.
In short he is lightly raced Father Of Science and bred for this, will improve from his last run and could be a lot better on better ground, he is a crazy price in my opinion and it wont last long with the day of the race market upto tomorrow.
best wishes with whatever you back
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MANUELPADILLAJNR,i agree with your theory,had a few near misses myself doing this,treasure beach,golden sword and the great gatsby being three of them,but there's a rumour that only Camelot and Astrology are going to be his only runners,just a rumour though as with most things from AOB's stable,have taken a chance on that being true and backed Astrology,good luck and hope you get a run for your money
Astrology was the other one i liked as that horse managed to quicken in bad ground also at the Chester meeting but then his price and that of Father of Science are vastly different, on the rumour thing i wouldnt pay to much attention to all that, my logic on that would be that if he did only run two he has no pacemaker in the field to guarantee things for camelot etc, im sure he will run at least four
While we are at Epsom, in the Oaks i really do like COLIMA it may have on the book ground to find with an impressive winner last time out but there is a lot lot more to come from this filly, trip no problem and has a turn of foot and is a big price for sure, Father of Science and also Colima in an ew double
Haven't gone mad tbh, it was either him or Imperial Monarch i wanted to back before the final decs and it appears the latter is heading to france,although they are both still entered over there,wouldn't be too sure he needs a pacemaker in this either,this trip is an unknown for Camelot,even though on breeding it should get it,but breeding can only be used as a guide imo.
good luck manuel nice big prices and anything can happen have had a small dabble win and place
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A decision on whether Father Of Science and Tower Of Rock will run in the Derby will be made in the morning.
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Imperial Monarch will be aimed at Sunday’s French Derby subject to the ground trainer Aidan O’Brien has said.
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Joseph O’Brien will ride Camelot in Saturday’s Derby. Ryan Moore will be on Astrology.
A decision on whether Father Of Science and Tower Of Rock will run in the Derby will be made in the morning.
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Imperial Monarch will be aimed at Sunday’s French Derby subject to the ground trainer Aidan O’Brien has said.
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Joseph O’Brien will ride Camelot in Saturday’s Derby. Ryan Moore will be on Astrology.
tucho,got it on twitter this morning,the geezer is normally reliable
Well theres a rumour that actually came to occur, one of those things i guess, so now for me its Astrology in the Derby and Colima in the oaks, have to say this is seemingly the poorest Derby i have seen for a long long time, is it me or at the moment camelot aside do this years three year olds look tosh.
It's a better Derby than 1997 and remarkably similar. I'm not exactly sure how you can crab the form of Bonfire myself. Unlucky third in the main Group 1 2yo race in France and won the strongest looking Derby trial fairly well. Main Sequence is an unbeaten winner of a recognised Derby Trial. Either might well turn out to be very good as of course the favourite could. Only Parish Hall and Kesampour are missing of those with solid looking top class form. With Astrology a wide margin win in a tiny sub standard soft ground field leave us guessing, but he too could turn out to be very good.
Father Of Science did look interesting each way as did Kesampour I thought. The market was telling us they might not be running
Father Of Science did look interesting each way as did Kesampour I thought. The market was telling us they might not be running
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