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parish hall, power, hermival, born to sea, full list on ante post on here.
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nephrite still in, yet obrien stated that the horse didnt stay 7 furlongs last time, and wouldnt stay a mile
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I wouldn't read too much into it Elish.
5/1 the field. Looks wide open. Power was beaten 37 lenghts at HQ, but so was ROC last year before he won this. Trumpet Major would have a good chance if the going is GoodtoFirm. |
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I think that Power will AOB's chosen one. AOB admitted that Power was a little behind the others in his prep for our Guineas and he'll have him cherry ripe for this. Whether he's good enough is another thing.
5/1 for Hermival looks a decent price imo |
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big fan of trumpet major, but i'm sure hannon said they were going to royal ascot with him rather than irish 2000g
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backed takar for the derby after his 1st run last year, hope to get some consolation on saturday.
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nice odds about quite a bit of the runners available, if we knew whats running etc, great e/w on hermival9/2, parish hall 6/1, trumpet m 7/1, power 7/1.
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****s sake coolmore, 1/2 the field and not a hint of really whats running etc, really detest the way they run the show.how can i make a book etc
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tucho - Hannon jnr said on ATR that this race the plan as long as the ground dries up, which according to the forecast, will be the case.
Personally as much as he is an admirable horse just cannot see him being fast enough over a mile |
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There is also a Group 3 sprint on the same card which has Power,Crusade,Nephrite in. But it is hard to imagine Power wont run in this. Nehprite could go for the sprint against older horses,possibly?
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Surely Nephrite won't run?
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Just missed Hermival's trainer on Get On... Did he say he is an intended runner? If so, 6/1 with Joe looks big.
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not sure if he,ll like the drying ground though, laying but agree big price
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Missed that as well. Did he say he was a definite runner?
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Daddy surely too big @14s, wud be half that at best if me shows up, that's the deal with this outfit unfortunately. Gd/firm Sat innit
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Yes a definate runner is Hermival.
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As is Foxtrot Romeo.
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Thanks sint
elis I'm not sure that quicker ground would be against him, its just that he has only run on gs or worse. Trainer was always aiming him at Newmarket where you would have thought it was going to be quicker under normal circumstances. Of course the ground may well have come right for Parish Hall but with proven G1 form this year, I think 6/1 Hermival is a great price |
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Also said Dragon Pulse was not right in France Guinease and heads to St.James Palace next start.
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Daddy Long Legs has a huge stride and will love the Curragh, I'd be interested in him if he showed up, just hope they haven't sickened him bu running him twice on a surface that albeit he is bred for, he patently hates. he has a beautiful fast ground turf action.
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I can see why people like DLL, but don't you think he needs a trip?
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Stiff old mile at headquarters
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Sorry but Newmarket is HQ
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Sorry I forgot myself but I'd say he'll get away with it if he is quick enough to be handy. If he goes well here he could be interesting in the St James' Palace as i like a forward style around a bend. We'll get the weekend out of the way first though, who knows if he'll even show up. |
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Looks a cracker of an Ire 2000gns this Sat.
I like the chances of Power at 8.2 on here, looking at them all in there best bits of form, it could be a close call with a handfull of them, Power, Parish Hall, Hermival, Trumpet Major. Hot race if all line up. Had a little bit on Power, for now, until the decks & ground is more clear. |
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power will be no more than 5.0 on the day
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looks a very nice race in prospect, shame we didnt have the likely good ground back at nmkt.
has there been any noises as to the jockey arrangements for the oxx pair? hard decision for johnny murtagh, born to sea looked a future class act on his debut, finished lame when beaten next time, and then he was too keen along with the ground not ideal at nmkt so wasnt knocked about. takar has been very impressive his past couple of runs. both could still be anything. on breeding, takar should certainly be suited by a stiff mile and possible may even get a bit further in time. born to sea looks like a mile is as far as he'd want, not guaranteed to get a stiff mile, and could end up being one of those '7f' horses that are hard to place, as they aren't quite fast enough for sprints and don't get a truly run mile. |
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Johnny Murtagh is retained by the Aga Khan so he'll be on Takar. Possibly Fran Berry on BTS ?
Im hoping for a bold show from Power tbh although I have not actually backed him. I have backed La Collina for the filles race though, eachway. |
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ah, forgot murtagh was retained by the aga khan, just thought he had first pick on the oxx horses.
just seen on sporting life anyway, pat smullen gets the ride on BTS, who sports a first time hood. |
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Finding the plunge on Parish Hall for this race a little confusing.
So Bolger considers him one of the best he has trained and they may turn out to be the case. But he was adamant after the Dewhurst that he saw him as more of a Derby horse, though to be fair he did plan on running at Newmarket given favourable conditions. If he had I am sure he would have gone straight to the Derby and not taken in this race as well. Either he is unsure of what the horse's best distance will be so he is running in this race just in case, or perhaps he is keen to get any prep in prior to the Derby. I actually think a better bet for this horse is actually the Derby e/w NRNB - for those who can get it. As far as this race is concerned, it is incredibly open. Can easily see both Power and BTS putting in much better efforts than at Nmkt and see that the 6s about Hermival has now gone. Will have another look at decs and if Hermival does get back to that type of price ( unlikely I know )then I will play or I shall leave the race alone otherwise. |
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What puts me off about Parish Hall, is, as you say Roobuck, the fact he has missed an intended target already. The last 10 winners of this race had all had a run that season.
And even if it is used a prep, surely time has run out to be sending him to the Derby now? |
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I though one of the most telling things he said was that hopefully he won't have too hard a race on Saturday. If he is going to win it will be a hard race unless he is Frankel/STS rolled into one and wins in 2nd gear.
I wouldn't be interested in PH for Derby without the NRNB concession and so it may well be in my favour I cannot get on to see how he runs on Saturday first. |
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agreed. surely a hard race and the toil of travelling over here for the derby within a week is asking a lot for him to run well at epsom let alone have the petrol left to fly up the home straight and win.
might be best to have a look at him in running, as if he is definitely going to epsom can't see him being asked to do too much if his chance seems to be gone. |
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agreed. surely a hard race and the toil of travelling over here for the derby within a week is asking a lot for him to run well at epsom let alone have the petrol left to fly up the home straight and win.
might be best to have a look at him in running, as if he is definitely going to epsom can't see him being asked to do too much if his chance seems to be gone. |
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don't forget that this is normal practice in Australia.
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If you go back to the famous New Approach Derby affair , you may recall Bolger saying that the Irish 2000G was a greater priority for him than the Derby before he subsequently changed his mind when NA came out of the Curragh so well that he ended up running in both. Make no mistake , Bolger has won the Epsom Derby but never won the Irish 2000G and he would dearly love to win it as the New Approach story illustrates. Ordinarily , horses struggle to back up in big races off a week break but these normal 'rules' do not apply to horses trained at Coolcullen , anyone remember Finsceal Beo and Banimpire ? JSB has got where he is by breaking every convention going so never say never !
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Yeah, he basically ruins his horse with one season. How often do you see him with a decent older horse?
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11 declared, all big names going, no major omissions
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backed p hall for derby got 16/1 this morning nrnb, wins saturday could start 7/2 derby, runs good race first 4 , around 8/1, unplaced probably wont run in derby. so happy with my bet
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Irish 2,000 Guineas 11 DECLARED
1.Alkazim, 2.Born To Sea, 3.Daddy Long Legs, 4.Foxtrot Romeo, 5.Hermival, 6.Parish Hall, 7.Power, 8.Reply, 9.Takar, 10.Trumpet Major 11. Wrote. |