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sinfin
03 Mar 12 16:40
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alot of money now for the 2000 guineas but very weak for the derby indicating they think it may not stay the trip and the 2000 guineas is now the target
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Report Masterminded March 3, 2012 5:05 PM GMT
He will stay the Derby trip. If you wanted to breed a Derby horse this would be it. I think they will probs be greedy and try to win the Guineas but I think he will get outpaced as a 3yo over the mile trip like all Montjeu's do.
Report Rowley Mile March 5, 2012 11:01 AM GMT
Personally, i think he's only shortening for 2k as there's simply nothing else to back in it.
Report BJG March 5, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
100% correct imo Rowley
Report sintonian March 5, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
Most Improved wins, save yer doughMischief
Report Rowley Mile March 5, 2012 7:24 PM GMT
lol, a lot to like about him except that his third birthday is two days before the race.
Report Stake & Chips March 20, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
Camelot 2000 Guineas odds slashed after £100,000 bet
Punters are quickly turning their attention to the forthcoming flat season and one Betfred customer especially will be keeping a close eye on proceedings having struck a monster bet on the first classic of the season.(credit: Andrew Stawarz)
Bettingpro Staff - 20 Mar 2012
Punters are quickly turning their attention to the forthcoming flat season and one Betfred customer especially will be keeping a close eye on proceedings having struck a monster bet on the first classic of the season.

The punter walked into a Betfred shop in Rochdale this afternoon and placed a £100,000 bet on Camelot at 3/1 with Betfred to win the QIPCO 2000 Guineas in just over a month’s time. Betfred were top-price on Aidan O’Brien’s colt before the bet was struck but understandably the Warrington-based firm have now cut the Racing Post Trophy winner to 9/4.

“Camelot couldn’t have been more impressive when taking last year’s Racing Post Trophy but I’m happy to take the punter on as history is littered with impressive juveniles who fail to step up to the mark in their classic season,” said Betfred chairman Fred Done.

Top Offer is the 8/1 second-favourite for the 2000 Guineas with Betfred with the trio of Harbour Watch, Most Improved and Nephrite all next in the market at 10/1.
Report Rowley Mile March 20, 2012 12:21 PM GMT
They need an excuse to get the scissors out again.
Report manyana March 20, 2012 7:40 PM GMT
nobody would carry 100 grand with them in rochdale
Report sinfin March 20, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
fcuk me i tried 200 in my local freddies he took it but i was told no more
Report ilikewavingatbuses March 20, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
seriously whose backing this thing for the guineas? dya know any montjeus winning g1 races over a mile. they must need their heads lookin at at those prices!
Report ilikewavingatbuses March 20, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
apologies sinfin, i dont mean to appear disrepectful towards your judgement. hes a v good horse no doubt about that and there really doesnt appear to be a lot of strength and depth (at this moment). i was just basing my opinion on his pedigess and the fact that montjeu has never produced a g1 winning 3yr old over a mile. u know as well as me stats are there to be broken, just couldnt fancy him at the prices.

gl with your bet!
Report Howellsy March 20, 2012 9:55 PM GMT
Doubting Camelot for the Guineas due to his sire is not really a stat based doubt. It is logical. Montjeu was a top class middle distance horse who naturally tends to produce middle distance horses. In order to give him a chance of siring a miler, perhaps a sprinting mare might have been chosen, but Camelot's mare doesn't fit the bill, and there have to be serious doubts about whether he will have the speed. This race is wide open, and I'm hoping we might see the most interesting set of trials for years. The Greenham should be right back in fashion now after 4 of the best milers in Europe over the last 2 years have come first and second in each of the last 2 renewals. The Craven could do with a bit more of a boost but it looks as if we might see Top Offer v Most Improved. Bring it on!
Report elisjohn March 21, 2012 6:23 AM GMT
howellsy, yes would be great to see guineas horses go for the trials, oh for the days of salsabil fred darling, rodrigo de triano greenham, though he lost, oh so sharp nellgwyn, dancing brave the craven,mystiko the free hcap, zafonic the french trial, those days the trials was looked forward to as much as the guineas itself,             ,
Report ashleigh March 21, 2012 9:09 AM GMT
working after racing at the curragh suday.
Report Howellsy March 21, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
Elisjohn, I really think we might see the best Craven in years this year - although you don't have to go that far back to recall twice Over v ravens pass.
Report sinfin April 10, 2012 8:59 PM BST
just been matched at 5 and no backers for a short time in 2000 guineas
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