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By:
TINnotaTON
When: 19 Dec 11 19:48
owe you one, he along with sync was my early choice (see thread beginning) untill you said hennessy runners had a shocking record Laugh still think he will go to ireland and mccoy will ride galaxy rock.
By:
trev w
When: 19 Dec 11 19:52
donald even said the other day the tommy w. was fonna be wymotts 1st choice....

giles & viking as per the big race fred....and blazing baileys my big price fancy....

he's does seem a bit high in the h/cap but still a £1 below his hurdle mark....

i can see him relishing this type of race....and still only 9 jumps races to his name,3 wins 1 2nd & 2 3rds.

has won off of 146...so perhaps that 149....is not such a mountain...
By:
Johnny B Gud
When: 19 Dec 11 23:54
What's the safety limit for this race please?  Is it likely to be applied?
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 20 Dec 11 12:10
Cheers Sint.

Mixture of old age and laziness on my part!
By:
BJG
When: 20 Dec 11 13:00
Chicago Grey has just completed his last bit of work before Welsh National-v happy with him and champion p2p rider, Derek OConnor rides him.
By:
Slabster
When: 20 Dec 11 14:03
Elliott must mean business if he's booking Derek O'Connor.
By:
bazzar
When: 20 Dec 11 14:14
Safety limit is 20.
By:
racingguru
When: 21 Dec 11 03:03
What is your opinion on last one in? Think it will go lower than most people anticipate, possibly even as low as Le Beau Bai.
By:
Facts
When: 21 Dec 11 08:30
Galaxy Rock - big chance imo.12/1 still available
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 11:31
Hey Big Spender (IRE)    8       11 7
Synchronised (IRE)    8       11 6
Carruthers (GB)    8       11 3
Chicago Grey (IRE)    8       11 1
Blazing Bailey (GB)    9       11 0
Cappa Bleu (IRE)    9       10 12
Mon Mome (FR)    11       10 12
Galaxy Rock (IRE)    7       10 11
Viking Blond (FR)    6       10 4
Neptune Equester (GB)    8       10 3
Giles Cross (IRE)    9       10 1
Or Noir de Somoza (FR)    9       10 1
As de Fer (FR)    5       10 0
Any Currency (IRE)    8       9 12
Knighton Combe (GB)    11       9 11
Indifference Curve (FR)    9       9 9
Master Overseer (IRE)    8       9 9
Mumbles Head (IRE)    10       9 8
Ballyfitz (GB)    11       9 8
Our Island (IRE)    6       9 7
Sona Sasta (IRE)    8       9 7
Alderluck (IRE)    8       9 7
Cannington Brook (IRE)    7       9 7
Heathcliff (IRE)    9       9 6
Le Beau Bai (FR)    8       9 6
Bench Warrent (IRE)    8       9 6
Lochan Lacha (IRE)    10       9 4
Mid Div And Creep (GB)    11       9 3
Ballyfoy (IRE)    10       9 1
Mark The Book (IRE)    10       9 0
Incentivise (IRE)    8       9 0
Nine de Sivola (FR)    10       8 13
Victory Gunner (IRE)    13       8 10
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 11 12:28
Denis O'regans lowest riding weight in the last 12 months is 10st4. GC is due to carry 10st1. So denis will either put up overweight or wont be having any Turkey over christmas! LaughShocked
By:
trev w
When: 21 Dec 11 14:54
thats wrong sint what tt's posted...giles got 10.06...

and the order is wrong aswellShocked
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 15:00
Is itShocked
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 15:04
Thats on sporting life siteMischief
By:
trev w
When: 21 Dec 11 15:09
diff on the racing post teetsCrazy
By:
BJG
When: 21 Dec 11 15:11
Knew u was gettin me all worried over nuffink Devil dc

1     49P-41     Hey Big Spender31     8     11-12     Colin Tizzard         156     130     163
2     13-P73     Synchronised38     8     11-11     Jonjo O´Neill         155     154     168
3     649-31     Carruthers31     8     11-8     Mark Bradstock     Mattie Batchelor     152     155     163
4     18-U37     Chicago Grey45     8     11-6     Gordon Elliott         150     113     163
5     119P-8     Blazing Bailey31     9     11-5     Alan King     Wayne Hutchinson     149     151     165
6     3F2P/1     Cappa Bleu38     9     11-3     Evan Williams     Paul Moloney     147     142     162
7     463F/5     Mon Mome10     11     11-3     Venetia Williams         147     —     —
8     141-31     Galaxy Rock45     7     11-2     Jonjo O´Neill         146     137     165
9     70-143     Viking Blond33     6     10-9     Nigel Twiston-Davies         139     144     165
10     9113-1     As De Fer29 4x     5     10-9     Anthony Honeyball     Sam Thomas     139     114     174
11     230-31     Neptune Equester38     8     10-8     Brian Ellison         138     136     160
12     P22-1     Giles Cross44     9     10-6     Victor Dartnall     Denis O'Regan     136     153     165
13     F-0979     Or Noir De Somoza32     9     10-6     David Pipe         136     51     154
14     4/32-3     Any Currency24     8     10-3     Martin Keighley         133     80     164
15     3-2714     Knighton Combe36     11     10-2     Jamie Snowden         132     134     161
16     622-31     Cannington Brook10 4x     7     10-2     Colin Tizzard         132     156     164
17     P-0P71     Le Beau Bai24 4x     8     10-1     Richard Lee         131     160     165
18     9-0223     Indifference Curve51     9     10-0     Miss Margaret M O´Sullivan         130     141     161
19     1/2-16     Master Overseer24     8     10-0     David Pipe         130     155     164
20     33/F-P     Mumbles Head66     10     9-13     Peter Bowen         129     —     —
21     22P-2U     Ballyfitz23     11     9-13     Nigel Twiston-Davies         129     161     165
22     7-4292     Our Island10     6     9-12     Tim Vaughan         128     157     159
23     116-2     Sona Sasta24     8     9-12     David Pipe         128     151     162
24     213-75     Alderluck24     8     9-12     Nick Gifford         128     155     163
25     3724-7     Heathcliff51     9     9-11     Richard Lee         127     —     —
26     33P-57     Bench Warrent10     8     9-11     Charlie Mann     Noel Fehily     127     155     164
27     03-U5     Lochan Lacha24     10     9-9     A J Martin         125     —     —
28     2112-1     Mid Div And Creep237     11     9-8     Lawney Hill         124     —     —
29     584P-6     Ballyfoy44     10     9-6     Gary Moore         122     147     152
30     1PP2/P     Mark The Book10     10     9-5     Ben Case         121     —     —
31     2P-464     Incentivise13     8     9-5     Richard Lee         121     149     157
32     P/2-6P     Nine De Sivola23     10     9-4     Ferdy Murphy         120     106     146
33     V16-1P     Victory Gunner24     13     9-1     Richard Lee         117     142     150
By:
trev w
When: 21 Dec 11 15:12
giles defo on 10.06....and le beau defo should be above bally
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 15:12
RP never wrong iyo?Mischief
By:
BJG
When: 21 Dec 11 15:12
He had me convinced LBB wad nt gonna get in trev, a chancer innhe Mischief
By:
trev w
When: 21 Dec 11 15:14
fookin menace bjgLaugh

never known him to be wrong tbf

must be the pressure of running his own forumLaughDevil
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 15:16
fbodc imoLaugh
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 21 Dec 11 15:18
I must have stepped into a time-warp.
By:
Showrunner1
When: 21 Dec 11 15:28
Viking Blond for me and Cannington Brook will be of interest if Tizzard lets him take his chance
By:
betilyerded
When: 21 Dec 11 15:37
I know LBB is the stables number 1 chance but what about Heathcliff at 66-1 now so many have come out. I know hes been running over hurdles of late but he goes well here in the mud and in his short chase career he would have split Synchronised and Giles Cross in a novice chase having not fallen at the last. He till needs a few to come out and has obviously not shown as much appetite for fences as hurdles but he also ticks alot of boxes, the likely slow pace will suit his jumping and given where the other two finished in last seasons renewal haas to have a good e/w chance at big odds.
By:
trev w
When: 21 Dec 11 15:41
DDLaugh

hows you fella
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 21 Dec 11 15:58
Very good thank you Trev.

Betting wise I had been winding down over the last couple of years, too hard getting on and with the usual responsibilities I didn't feel comfortable risking largeish sums when work etc could go tits up at any time. Having said that one major firm must have missed me badly, my account was re-activated and for the last few months I have been able to get on pretty much what I liked! Not making much of a profit though, that never changes.

Best wishes to you and your family.
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 11 16:18
TT you phcuking Oik !! Laugh

Nevermind, im glad it is wrong as no worries about Mad Dennis making the weight now.
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 20:19
Laugh it was on de sporting life siteMischief


O'Neill: Lexus more likely for Synchronised

BY LEE MOTTERSHEAD 6:35PM 21 DEC 2011

SYNCHRONISED, favourite with all firms to complete back-to-back victories in Tuesday's Coral Welsh National, seems likely to miss the race after trainer Jonjo O'Neill revealed that the following day's Lexus Chase at Leopardstown has become his staying star's preferred target.


Connections of Synchronised have long earmarked a repeat bid but the lure of a Grade 1 prize and a reluctance to force the eight-year-old to concede lumps of weight all round have caused a change of mind.
Assuming ground conditions remain testing at Leopardstown - where conditions were on Wednesday described as soft - Synchronised is likely to tackle the Lexus, for which he can be backed at 20-1 with ****.The sponsors, like most firms, have the JP McManus-owned chaser at 6-1 for the Welsh National.

O'Neill said on Wednesday: "I honestly don't know for sure yet which one he'll go for but I'd say that Leopardstown is the favourite. If the ground is testing enough in Ireland I think he will definitely end up there."




The leading Irish-trained contenders for the 3m event are Rubi Light and Joncol, separated by five lengths when first and second respectively in the Grade 1 John Durkan Memorial Chase at Punchestown this month, and Quito De La Roque, who extended his winning sequence to five straight wins when taking the Grade 1 JNwine.com Champion Chase at Down Royal last month.

The other acceptors are RSA Chase winner Bostons Angel, Roi Du Mee, Magnanimity, China Rock, Follow The Plan, Roberto Goldback , Cooldine and The Midnight Club.

Chepstow on Wednesday dried out a little to heavy, soft in places, which might not be ideal for O'Neill's other acceptor Galaxy Rock, one of 33 horses left in the track's most prestigious race, which is also the highlight of the BBC's only televised jumps fixture outside the John Smith's Grand National meeting.

Proven in mud is the Mark Bradstock-trained Hennessy Gold Cup hero Carruthers, who worked well under big-race jockey Mattie Batchelor on Tuesday.

The rider told At The Races: "I said to Mark he looks better than he did before Newbury. That is probably a brave statement because he won a Hennessy, but he felt in good nick."
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 11 20:37
Laugh
By:
trev w
When: 21 Dec 11 20:40
cheers DD,

would be nice to get sync out the wayGrin
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Dec 11 20:44
race looks like cutting up trev. not even sure there will be 16 runners.
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 11 20:53
trev's spending more time on here than mine f f s Tongue Out
By:
stevo1
When: 21 Dec 11 20:58
True Sint good news for Giles Cross hopefully, gone in again at 8s
By:
TINnotaTON
When: 21 Dec 11 21:01
added any currency at 20-1 after a positive update from martin kieghley on his website today
giles cross 10's
ballyfitz   25's
any currency 20's

hope all get ther now, be lucky Excited
By:
Reefer 2001
When: 21 Dec 11 22:21
About time Jonjo filled us in.  Le Beau Bai is the one to back. On a much lower mark than 2 years ago when 3rd and with everything in his favour, 14's is going to look very big when Synchronised comes out.
By:
ChildOfMine2
When: 21 Dec 11 23:15
3m on soft-yielding ground as opposed to 3m5f on soft-heavy ground and Jonjo is saying that Synchronised is gonna run at Leopardstown. Not a hope in hell if you ask me against the likes of Quito De La Roque and Rubi Light. The further this horse goes, the better he is and thats makes the Welsh National the only race for this fella at Christmas. Would be very surprised if he went for the Lexus. The forcast over here in Ireland by the way is for a very mild week.
By:
tommycockles
When: 22 Dec 11 09:19
Could someone tell me when the final decs for the race will be published? Thank you
By:
cryoftruth
When: 22 Dec 11 12:07
To me the really interesting one is Cannington Brook (available at 24 here), with the bookies the remaining 20/1 is now disappearing.

He is far too long a price.

Main reasons for the selection:
progressing well
looks like a very dour stayer to me (almost exactly the sort of plodder you need for this test)
should appreciate the step up in trip from the inadequate 3 miles last time when winning in a desperate bog at Haydock
first time over a long trip may bring about further improvement

Just a thought for you all.
By:
sintonian
When: 22 Dec 11 13:42
He is not going to run Cry, hope you've not backed it.
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 22 Dec 11 14:59
is that right sint i have bet viking blond but do give cannington a chance i had nice lift off him last week i agree with cry he is improving fast
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