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By:
Figgis
When: 19 Aug 11 15:53
Yeah, mightymoyes, can't say I was feeling comfortable with the front tunning tactics, given the stamina doubts, but that's Hills for you. At least he got the place I suppose. Hoof It never looked to be really going today from coming out of the stalls, I know people will trot out the handicap to group race explanation but that just wasn't his best form. I could never have picked the winner. A poor meeting for me and I don't fancy anything there tomorrow.
By:
Figgis
When: 19 Aug 11 15:53
* front running
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Aug 11 16:14
pays to be up front making the running or just off the pace. Richard Hughes was 10 lengths off them on Dux Scholar but the winner looked good.
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Aug 11 16:16
10/1 was a good ew price on Tazaahum though Figgis, nice one.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 19 Aug 11 18:46
One whell on my wagon and I'm still (just about) rolling along. Not a particularly good day. Pocketbtalking however if anybody but the Head Waoiter had been on prompter it might just have got up. Lillyborne was never going. Backed Tazahum aat 3.35 for a place and backed it en route at 8/1 guaranteed. Tiddliwinks is still running and Hoof might be a race too many this year. Cannot make upo that much ground in top company. Bit like a 100m final and giving bolt 6 yards (shows my age). Been whilsling the old rugged cross all the way home but didn't back it. Couldn't back crackenthorp because georgie wasn't on it. Unlucky he didn'r het up in the first at Wolves. Imaginary World was not going to get there is the last. About breaking even for the week. I'm on Modun at 10/1 tomorrtow but loads queuing up for Frankie's. Off to the DOGS. One day to go. Liver holding out.
By:
TheFormMan
When: 20 Aug 11 00:20
Just one more york bet to try and get out of jail for the horrible meeting

9/2 My Propeller 4:15  will take a monster effort for something to catch her once she has bolted
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 20 Aug 11 09:25
Final day. First thoughts are that surely Bazza will bow out with a winner (does retire after today doesn't he?).On the assumption that he does he's got:


20Aug11    3:00     Na Zdorovie CHESTER (Overnight), toteswinger EBF Maiden Stakes   

20Aug11    4:30     Yasmeena SANDOWN (Overnight), Chief Barker's Handicap   

20Aug11    4:50     Self Centred YORK (Overnight), Betfred Bonus King Stakes (Nursery)   

20Aug11    5:05     Brimstone Hill SANDOWN (Overnight), Fantasia Ceiling Fans Nursery   

20Aug11    6:40     Prime Defender BATH (Overnight), Swindon Designer Outlet Lacoste / EBF Somersetshire Conditions Stakes   

20Aug11    7:40     One Lucky Lady BATH (Overnight), Swindon Designer Outlet Osprey London Handicap

Georgie hasn't gone to York for nothing so it's exacta's with the field Martin's horses in the Ebor and Bergo who might run a big race. Cannot get too enthused about the York card so will follow Hayley blind as well with singles and exacta's and trifecta's with Paul Hanagan the man to be second both with the field.

Wonder if Bazza will be at York? Taking some tissues with me for the inevitable weep. A credit to the game.
By:
Figgis
When: 20 Aug 11 09:45
Now I've had more time to assess Wednesday's results I can see that I initially overrated Sea Moon's performance. I now have him as only improving 1lb from his previous run. It's clear that the race just fell apart in front of him, similar to what happened for Crystal Capella in the PoW at Newmarket, making the performance look much better than it actually was. I see he has been rated as the best middle distance 3yo around, this looks like a wild overreaction and I expect him to be downgraded later in the season. He still put up a rating that would give him a great chance in the Leger, however, I reckon his improvement has probably now levelled off and there is a good chance he might not even run to that mark next time. At the short price I will be strongly opposing him at Doncaster.
By:
liam the lips
When: 20 Aug 11 11:50
Interesting Figgis, i would agree that the race fell apart (York has a habit of producing exaggerated results)and a topspeed figure of 88 casts doubt over the merit of the form. Very oppposable @5/4 imo.

Im interested in one horse today @ York  - Ardlui in the Melrose (Hope he goes on the strange York surface !)
By:
eric_morris
When: 20 Aug 11 21:16
Great thread. 'sint' has shown his 7 years worth of racing knowledge well on it.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 07:35
Not doing that again. Four days is too much. On top of everything a few Buds kllled me off finally last night. Like drinking cement. ONE LUCKY LADY (that's my wife of course) diddled up under Me Carson and I thought a bit of air punching (bit like guitar) and a bit of gigging was perfectly acceptable. So was my wedge on the oss. Yes, we'll all miss the great man, and I got through a box of Kleenex. Still siffling but that's my hay fever. A fitting end to a wonderful training life Bazza and always helps when the Libs coffers are swollen to overflowing. Well done. We worked so hard last week to think about what was plotted at York and it was there in the end.
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Aug 11 09:31
aye, 7 years of racing knowledge still makes more money than your 30 [:D]. Such a shame your too cowardly to put it to the test, Eric, you demented berk. Laugh
By:
sj
When: 21 Aug 11 09:41
eric

tbf your knowledge does grow with time,i'm 51 and still learning,the day you think you know it all in this game is the day you get bite on the A rse.IMO you either have a feel for the game(spotting future winners/race reading before and after event) from day one or you dont.

TBH i cant see what you 'mate'(lol) sint has done wrong on this thread
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 10:31
And neither can I sj. All this carping just pigs you off. Life is for living. Anyway I'm up for the Leger Festival if anybody is interested. Know all the best hostelries and eating places in Donnie and be nice if some of us could meet for a pie and a pint at the course. Despite what Others have mentioned Doncaster is the best track in the world. Or should that be used to be because it was like a carpet. Last time I walked around looked a bit minging and allopeociatic (like an oldies hair dropping out when you can see bits of head). Didn't the old head groundsman move on some time back in inauspicious circumstances (might be mistaken)? Barrington(my hero) likes to run his good two year olds there.
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Aug 11 10:59
well said chaps.

I think john Gosden would agree with you re Donny, LOTO. He pulled ou his Lincoln runner early season on account of the ......   grass.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 11:18
Sint .. will have probably grown since I last saw it. Just a shame they cannot attract the same sort of sponsorship that York does. Think it was adge who mentioned in another thread that the executive seem to have driven the locals away and for Doncaster that would be a massive faux pas because the track is an essential part of the local culture and scenery. Meet at the Grand St Leger (over the road and near the racecourse roundabout) for a glass or two pre - race and credit there because some seriously nice people and it's only about 400m to the grandstand. When I attended as a lad you'd start off in town and then a quick snift in the Regent, Sal and Rock. Eye, they were the days. Champagne day was extravagant (only word you could use to describe it). When I was very young and innocent you could sneak in to the middle of the course though bits of dicky fence and they would get a right crowd. Now it's corporate stuff for the last two furlongs. My biggest mistake was not backing Clive's horse when Ile de Bourbon got beat. Was available at 66/1 after the Voltigeur and I bought a packet of **** and a bag of chips instead of my £1 ew. Julio Mariner was it?
By:
town moor
When: 21 Aug 11 11:21
Regular updates on the clerkwatch thread re ground at donny chaps. Rock has seriously gone down the pan over the last few years but the salutation has some cracking beers on offer.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 11:25
You popping down to the Festival TM?
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 11:31
For all those who have never attended the Leger before should point out that it is truly a wonderful four days. Know you can say it about many leading tracks but it has a real beat and pulse to it and a vibrancy that other places don't seem to have. Women, like at York, are classy and truly beautiful and spectacular although some of the stragglers walking back into town seem to struggle mostly because of poor foot wear. Has real atmosphere and noise and of course the fair. Remember when they first relayed the track and the covering was just perfect.
By:
town moor
When: 21 Aug 11 11:32
We always have the week off mate, me and Mrs TM will be there.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 11:40
Might just see you down there.
By:
town moor
When: 21 Aug 11 11:55
We are always at the pre-parade ring, just to the left of the entrance gate between races.
By:
Augustine
When: 21 Aug 11 12:27
Julio Mariner indeed, LOTO. 28s on the day. I was there and talked my younger brother out of backing it. He still bears a grudge to this day. Can't think why.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 21 Aug 11 19:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmax47l2hLU

Takes you to places you have never been to before (he's on Sky Arts 2 at the mo). Nice way to finish the week. Think I'll book myself into The Priory for a bit of rehab. I'll do a new thread for the Leger Meeting. Any early thoughts? I'm on the French Navy (+ a million others) large to be placed (have this vision of Village People for some strange reason so maybe it is time to lay off the juice). Hope he runs. Thanks for all your contributions. It's been fun. With a bit of luck and if I've not been excommunicated (and been a good boy) I'll be there and see you TM at the pre - parade ring.

Let us not forget are lots of really nice people on here. Toodle pips.
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