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By:
solvingthepuzzle
When: 09 Sep 11 12:00
IF he goes there & IF he's fully fit I think he wins. He appears to be doing just enough each time & I suspect there's always something left 'in the tank'. Somebody posted 'Snow Fairy was catching him at the line'. Well to me it looked as though he could have kept on bowling along for some time. Only my opinion but I have 'backed it up'.
By:
ForceMajeure
When: 09 Sep 11 18:47
We should start the "Aiden O'Brien is overrated" thread now.Laugh
By:
silvergreaser
When: 12 Sep 11 00:14
This horse has no chance in the ARC everyone of his runs suggests anything much more than 10f will be stretching him big time, in the Arc he'll be meeting the cream and will be left for dead when the taps are turned on, anyone who thinks he's just doing enough are deluding themselves.

Keep your money in your pocket or lay this horse till the cows come home if you have the funds?.
By:
To be sure
When: 12 Sep 11 08:46
I'd advise the previous poster watches last years Melbourne Cup again (top weight on bottomless ground) and then tell me SYT doesn't stay further than 10f.
By:
solvingthepuzzle
When: 12 Sep 11 08:48
An honest opinion SG and should you turn out to be correct I will eat humble pie and have slightly lighter pockets. Blue Bunting on Sat was a reminder of how strong belief can go horribly wrong. In SYTs defence he did run well in the Melourne cup some of the comments in running 'close up 4f out, led 1.5f out, headed final 110yds unable to quicken lost second in the final 50yds'. That over 2 miles & not against 'the cream' as you state. Having said that the winner was rated 125 the 2nd 119 & 4th 126. That doesn't sound like a horse who doesn't stay beyond 10f to me. He had also won a G1 3 yes 3 days earlier, the point I'm really trying to make is that SYT is a unique horse & may well surprise even you SG.
By:
Frankelstein
When: 20 Sep 11 17:11
SYT is only marginally "Over-rated"

Workforce has clearly been half a stone below his best this year and the time at Ascot was v poor...

The Handicappers have been blinkered and refused to admit this... so they have raised SYT and Nathaniel to heights that are not warranted.

SYT is probably a 124-126 horse OVERALL. THAT's a very decent animal... and on his day at 10f in Europe he's probably a pound or two better over 10f. He would NOT win in Europe over a mile against any NUMBER of European Grp 1 milers - Goldikova at her peak wld have sat back and out-kicked him, likewise Canford, Excelebration wld do it from the front and Frankel - well forget it... SYT wld not get within 5L of him over 7-9f... BUT he remains, in the absense of Pour Moi, probably the best 10f horse in Europe - and wld be in the US also if they hop over there... I say PROBABLY because the three yr olds will probably never race him over 10f morese the pity - I would have LOVED to see Reliable Man or Pour Moi or even Frankel have taken him on, but he'll be gone next yr when they risk it and PM is already gone... NO... it's the HYPE and MARKETING that has been overdone... he's the victor ludorum atm, very decent at a number of distances but he's no superstar at any of them... Black Caviar @ 6f, Excelerbration @ 7f, Frankel @ 8f, Reliable Man, Workforce (IF THE REAL Wf turns up ever again) @ 12f... and if he meets Snow Fairy on faster ground with a stronger jock closer to the pace over 12f, perhaps even 10f, SHE'll beat him...

CANNOT SEE HIM WINNING THE ARC IN A MONTH OF SUNDAYS AND STILL DO NOT BELIEVE HE'LL RUN - I'm pretty sure they'll go Qipco Champion/Breeders Cup route and it would be a much more profitable one as well AND he's brute enough - like Pilsudski was - to go on to Hk/Japan afterwards and stuff them as well...
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