there is no way on this planet or the next that they would put joey up if they thought he was going to put up overweight

He put up 1lb overweight on Empowering in the G3 Guineas trial as well.

James, i'd be surprised if 4/9 becomes available tbh.

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Maybe won the Gr.3 Silver Flash Stakes by just a narrow margin from La Collina, but she looked in a different class from the opposition, always travelling beautifully and just having to be ridden out in the final furlong to win comfortably.  That's three out of three now and I guess she'll be heading next for the Gr.2 Debutante Stakes on 7 August. 

My guess is that the runner-up La Collina is a very useful filly in the making - I didn't see her debut win at Limerick, but the Racing Post analyst's comments make interesting reading: "This was a smart performance by LA COLLINA who overcame early greenness to win in the style of a nice filly.  Slowly away, she was just shoved along a little early on to go the pace but when she settled and began to race in the straight she really showed some gears and quickened past the opposition despite shifting to her right. What she beat is more of a question and she probably wants a mile but she was quite impressive."  La Collina, who once again showed a good turn of foot this evening, holds entries in the Debutante, the Phoenix and the Moyglare and is clearly well regarded.

I wasn't impressed with her tonight. She didnt exactly stretch clear of the field and we have no idea how good, or otherwise, the fillies in behind her were.
The form of the Chesham could not have worked out any worse and she looks a two year old through and through who is now ahead of her contempories but will be caught up next year.
Guineas quotes of between 5/1 and 7/1 are laughable and nice filly that she is, does not appear to have the scope to make it as a three year old

Dont know how an inexperienced jockeys words can be taken highly especially in a stable who hardly excel in Guineas fillies. Winning by such a short distance against these does not make her a 7/1 chance the Guineas at this stage agree there could be some progressing past her in the coming months.

I haven't backed her either, making an ante post book isn't my style but good luck to those who do. I don't understand why people are negative about her just on this evening's showing. It's already been said that it was a slow pace so she was unlikely to power clear. There probably will be other fillies that will show more advanced form later this year, but we saw in this year's 1,000 what often happens to the more precocious types. She's still very promising imo.

How likely was the jockey to crab the performance, though? I've nothing against her and I'd be happy enough if I had 25s or more but she's short now.

It's worth remembering that several of O'Brien's best juvenile fillies in recent seasons have appeared to regress at some point (usually in their third or fourth race) and people have said the same things about them as they are saying now about Maybe, but they have usually bounced back and continued on an upward curve.  Rumplestiltskin won her first two races but was a shade disappointing on her third start in the Albany Stakes (beaten 4½ lengths), but she went on to land the Gr.2 Debutante Stakes, the Gr.1 Moyglare Stud Stakes and the Gr.1 Prix Marcel Boussac.  Heart Shaped won a Listed race on her second start, ran poorly on her third start in the Queen Mary Stakes, but then ran much better in the Gr.2 Cherry Hinton Stakes and ended the season with a fine effort to be beaten just a nose in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf (the following season she ran well to be fourth in the 1000 Guineas).  Lillie Langtry made a very good impression in a Gr.3 race at Naas on her second start, was a shade disappointing in the Albany Stakes when a beaten short price favourite, but she went on to land the Gr.2 Debutante Stakes (and the following year, after recovering from injury, won the Gr.1 Coronation Stakes).  Together progressed very well through her first three races last year, winning the Gr.3 Silver Flash Stakes on her third start, then disappointed in the Gr.2 Debutante Stakes when a short price favourite (there was a big turnaround in form by Laughing Lashes), but she later ran very well to be runner-up in the Gr.1 Fillies' Mile, the 1000 Guineas etc. 

All of those fillies (bar Rumplestiltskin) trained on well from two to three and I see no reason why Maybe shouldn't continue to develop and progress.  She will probably need to improve on the bare form of the Silver Flash Stakes result if she is to win the Debutante Stakes next time, but I'm convinced, having watched the race several times, that the runner-up was a bit flattered to finish so close and that Maybe was just idling in front.  It was striking how well she was travelling two furlongs out when her rivals were starting to be pushed and shoved, she then quickened up nicely to win her race before the runner-up closed her down towards the finish.  The runner-up is probably a very useful filly in her own right, but nothing else was making any impression on Maybe in the final furlong.  She was in a different class from her rivals and I expect we'll see a more polished performance in the Debutante, when hopefully there will be a stronger pace.

Well, you could make similar comments about many other trainers, including John Gosden (Lahan, his sole 1000 Guineas winner, was 14/1, while Rainbow View more recently failed at odds-on), but it wouldn't put me off backing their fillies for the race.  The key to O'Brien's 1000 Guineas runners is that they tend to fare much better if they have had a prep race (Virginia Waters, Together, Heart Shaped).  When they make their seasonal debut in the Guineas they tend to fare much worse (Misty For Me being a good example this year).  They've also had their share of misfortune (Rumplestiltskin hated the soft ground in the year Speciosa won the Guineas, Lillie Langtry missed the race through injury etc).  Together very nearly won the race this year and was only beaten by a storming late charge by Blue Bunting on the rail.  7/1 is far too short, I agree, and if you're not already on at much bigger prices you're hardly going to pile in now after the Silver Flash Stakes.  It's true that she hasn't beaten anything of note, although her maiden win was a smart performance (the runner-up Princess Sinead is a useful filly, Teolane started slowly but couldn't get anywhere close, and even Lady Rochford, beaten 12½ lengths by Maybe, won at Naas recently).  She's the best filly at Ballydoyle at the moment and as such commands plenty of respect.  The Debutante doesn't look a terribly hot race this year and the only entry that might concern Maybe backers is Mick Channon's Albany Stakes winner Samitar.

In fact a better comparison re number of fillies at their disposal is Godolphin who have had far more success with strongly fancied fillies in the 1000. They now have a hungry trainer who may not be fashionable as Big Bunting's price indicates however anything from their stable re the 1000 needs to command much more respect than anything from Ballydoyle as the resulst/history indicates.

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Maybe heads 19 fillies remaining in the Gr.2 Debutante Stakes on Sunday: After, Chieftess, Criostal, Devotion, Homecoming Queen, Illaunglass, Kinetica, La Collina, Lightening Pearl, Maid To Master, Maybe, Redoutable, Remember Alexander, Rubina, Somasach, Soon, Teolane, Tiffilia, Yellow Rosebud.  The race has been won by Irish-trained fillies for the last 20 years, it's a good race for favourites (10 of the last 20 favourites have obliged) and Aidan O'Brien has a good record with his fancied runners (five of his nine runners that started shorter than 2/1 were successful, with three of the unsuccessful runners having failed to win a pattern race beforehand), so the stats point to Maybe maintaining her unbeaten record.  The main dangers are Remember Alexander (particularly if the ground turns soft) and La Collina (whom Maybe beat last time at Leopardstown).

Very interesting race this, hope she does the business,

Easy. Built like a Colt.

33/1.

Also on Shummoos & Samitar (ew)

Very classy performance.  33/1 looks good now!

she is starting to look like the frankel of the bitch world,6f 7f 8f 10f and even 12f will be no problem next year,the world at her feet

Moyglare next up. I just hope she isn't over-raced at 2.

and Samitar.

La Collina is clearly progressing at a rate of knots. She did very well to beat the colts, always a good sign.