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Charlton2005
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Any negatives? If this was run on paper, this one wins by 20 lengths.

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Report FCH March 24, 2011 12:33 AM GMT
If it came up soft then great chance, not so sure on good going.
Report Tatie Baron March 24, 2011 7:11 AM GMT
Not a shred of form on good ground and seems to have spent most of his career avoiding it. National winner written all over him if it comes up soft.
Report Charlton2005 March 24, 2011 7:41 PM GMT
Thank you both.
Report abbott March 26, 2011 11:25 AM GMT
Really worried about the ground. Other than that he would have an excellent chance.
Report Charlton2005 March 26, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
Thanks Abbott

:)
Report bestmate March 26, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
5/1 fav on the day IF he gets his ground   repeat of Earth summit like gamble?
Report MrDinos March 27, 2011 8:35 AM BST
I'm a bit late with posting on this one but I have to agree with you all, if the rain comes he will have an absolute stonking chance of winning the National!!! I could never get out of my head how well he finished in the Welsh National a couple of years ago and I've followed him ever since! He is a tidy jumper, gallops and stays!!!

50 years since the last grey Nicholas Silver won!!! Silver By Nature has got to be the one for the Grand National, this kind of stuff happens!!!

I grabbed the 20-1 Coral was offering after he was confirmed for the race a few weeks ago.

I just hope the weather forecast is wrong for the next couple of weeks, Accuweather.com saying there is not much rain around Liverpool!!!
Report duncan idaho March 27, 2011 9:58 AM BST
From an nate-post perspective, i'd be worried they might get cold feet if the ground is no worse than Good, which seems likely.
Report yort March 27, 2011 10:21 AM BST
they plan on watering though to make safe groancy und. I'm in the same boat with my fancy Bluesea Cracker who needs at least some cut to be any way effective....fingers crossed for all of us
Report yort March 27, 2011 10:21 AM BST
blood gammy keyboard!!
Report Angel Gabrial March 28, 2011 8:14 PM BST
Why does Silver By Nature need soft ground> I know we all think he does but does he? because he has run to his top mark on soft but is it really a trip he needs.

By Silver Patriarch these horses dont mind good ground. Is it just that he needs a real stamina test...Grand National here we come. The last half a mile will be perfect for him.
Report Tatie Baron March 28, 2011 8:43 PM BST
Fair point Angel, for all we know he might even improve for better ground. But what we do know is that his best form so far has been on very testing ground, connections have been loathe to run him on good ground and he has quite a round action. He's priced up on the assumption of decent ground, could nearly start favourite if it's soft.
Report strontium March 28, 2011 8:45 PM BST
Topspeed of 177 seems pretty useful.
Report MrDinos March 28, 2011 8:49 PM BST
I can see where you are coming from AG but the more a test of stamina it is the better chance Silver has got and he does have a high knee action, so let the heavens open!!!

Had another look at Accuweather and the outlook looks better for us!!! This bunch of dipsticks seems to change the forecast every 5 minutes, there is now a fair amount of rain forecast this week and most of next week!!! Fingers crossed they are right for a change!!!
Report Angel Gabrial March 28, 2011 9:13 PM BST
He has the highest Top Speed in the race. G/S would be fine im sure, even with a high knee action. He is guaranteed to relish the trip. Running off 148 compared to his revised 159. I cant wait.
Report MrDinos March 28, 2011 9:43 PM BST
You are spot on AG, I like your positive thinking!!! I think I might back him again, sod the rain! [;)]
Report Charlton2005 March 28, 2011 9:51 PM BST
I am with the Angel :)
Happy if it's soft but I think he wins either way.

GL all and thanks for the help.
Report GT March 28, 2011 11:03 PM BST
sbn national odds for the ground


heavy 6/1
soft 7/1
gd/soft 10/1
good 14/1
fast 20/1
Report Angel Gabrial March 28, 2011 11:36 PM BST
You could back all 5 and be in profit!Cool..i like that market gd/soft i think. It will never be fast again in the history of the race.
Report Angel Gabrial March 28, 2011 11:40 PM BST
Silver By Nature also ticks all the boxes on the trends. Age, Class, Distance, Days since last race, number of falls in career. Its all there. Rain is in the air and it will be gd/soft on the day. Perfect.
Report duncan idaho March 29, 2011 5:58 PM BST
'He has the highest Top Speed in the race. G/S would be fine im sure'


You may well be right, but fair to point out that easily his best Topspeed rating was achieved on heavy ground last time.
Report MrDinos March 29, 2011 11:06 PM BST
If the various weather forecasts are right it's going to be soft ground at least on Grand National day!!! Time to go in again, I'm getting more confident about this by the day, everything looks like it's falling into place for Silver!!! [:)]
Report doogs April 1, 2011 5:00 PM BST
Weather forecasts vary but the 10 day one I looked at ( http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Liverpool-UKXX0083 ) says light rain until Wednesday and then sunshine for the rest of the week - that's not the kind of weather Tonto wants Sad
Report trev w April 1, 2011 5:43 PM BST
back him by all means..but its never gonna be soft.
Report boy wonder 07 April 1, 2011 6:19 PM BST
silver has a big chance on soft but he was being ridden with a circuit to go at haydock and will get too far behind on good ground
Report MrDinos April 1, 2011 6:52 PM BST
I have to agree with you boy wonder, I'm just trying to convince myself it's going to be soft ground because deep down I know what the outcome will be if it's not!!!

What will be will be!!! [:(]
Report 247lol April 1, 2011 8:28 PM BST
About as much chance of being soft as me becoming a pilot for NASA,clear enough?
Try reading the weather forecasts,lol.
Report MrDinos April 1, 2011 10:18 PM BST
Updated weather forecast for 247, it's going to be a clear sunny day with light winds at Cape Canaveral, Florida on April 9 2011.
Report jasey April 1, 2011 10:35 PM BST
good ground is priced @4/5.
i have backed silver,but going to lay off me thinks
Report 247lol April 1, 2011 10:52 PM BST
Like that Dinos,lol,rofl
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